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Tommy Robinson jailed

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Apparently according to Lauren Southern, Tommy has been sentenced to 13 months but there is a UK wide embargo on reporting.

Anyone else got any info?

Edit. Not too sure about the authenticity of the embargo. I'm assuming that it's for this https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-arrested-leeds-court-child-grooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html?amp

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PlaneSpeeking

Cienciano wrote: »

You can consider yourself a turnip if you like. Doesn't mean you're a turnip.

1 in every 7 registered voters in the US would describe themselves as Irish.

Explains why so many politicians claim it after 4-5-6 generations!

Odhinn

RandomName2 wrote: »

Okay, (.............)stently.

Again - why aren't you calling arson attacks targeting refugee accommodation terrorism?

FTA69

Is That It? wrote: »

Leftists actually see people like Robinson as more dangerous and disgusting than the 'asian' gangs that were/are allowed rape young white girls with impunity.

Unbelievable.

I don’t like rapists and abusers at all and think they’re sh*tbags. Equally I don’t like far right scrotes using this issue to push their own agenda, especially when a load of EDL types have been nonces for years but Robinson never had a thing to say about it.

RandomName2

Odhinn wrote: »

Again - why aren't you calling arson attacks targeting refugee accommodation terrorism?

Again, why don't you care about sexual violence? Is it that you hate women? Or Germans? German women?

Look Odhinn, you're really going to have to up your game here. Seriously.

You ignore my point. You contradict my post, incorrectly. You finally try and use moral outrage in lieu of actually having a point. I point out that all your post was was invective without substance and yet you are doubling down on it.

I mean, run me through your logic, go on. Shall I start you off?

I say 'The arson attacks are obviously terrorist in nature'

and you say 'A-hah, therefore Christian Germans are just as much to blame for violent attacks in Germany in the last number of years, as migrants'

Have I got that right? I mean that is why you're shifting the goalposts, isn't it?

In the same way I might be able to find one colored Muslim person who retweeted Tommy Robinson and say 'Tommy Robinson has got a diverse group of supporters'. Nay, more than that, that Tommy Robinson is predominantly supported by Muslims.

This is some strange version of no true scotsman.

Never mind that most of the recent arson attacks on migrants have been by other migrants.
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/2136916/arson-attacks-hit-turkish-community-sites-germany
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/syrian-asylum-seeker-in-germany-admits-arson-attack-1.2606866

and so on.

You are going to have to prove that you have got greater capacity than this for it to be worth anybody's time replying to you.

RandomName2

Is That It? wrote: »

I'll answer the question for you: sexual violence doesn't matter because the victims are white women. It's the only way you can explain feminist Sweden covering up sexual violence at music festivals so as not to offend migrant men.

It's a little more nuanced than that. When you are grandstanding and you have some opponent you are trying to undercut at all costs (in this case Odhinn believes he is a champion against the far-right) the issue has to be black-and-white. He will thus refrain from doing anything that he thinks could be seen to be giving his opponents (the far-right) credence. It's not to do with the creed, sex, or ethnicity of the victims in this case, but rather that of the persecutors.

By accepting the existence of these incidences, he thinks he would be accepting defeat to the far-right who'd use such incidences to their own end (he's right about that one actually). Therefore he'd prefer to pretend that such incidences didn't happen at all. Instead of silently ignoring them though, he'd want to redirect attention onto his bete noir.

Hilariously he attributes the same thing to me, and thinks that if he gets me to relent and accept that arson attacks can be described as terrorist in nature (which if they are meant to terrify people, they clearly are) that he'll have scored a massive blow against people who believe in sane migration practices.

What's depressing was that this wasn't even my point. I was taking a piss on the stance that 'Tommy Robinson has got a lot of white supporters, white people should feel bad' argument, but Odhinn was too blinded by his pursuit of justice to see what I was getting at.

Odhinn

RandomName2 wrote: »

Again, (.............) to you.

So you admit that the arson attacks are terrorism?

gw80

Cienciano wrote: »

You can consider yourself a turnip if you like. Doesn't mean you're a turnip.

Exactly.;).

RandomName2

Odhinn wrote: »

So you admit that the arson attacks are terrorism?

There is no adequate response to this post that would not be against the forum charter.

PlaneSpeeking

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6294939/Huddersfield-Asian-sex-gang-jailed-200-years.html

Try excusing that eh, usual apologists.

Timberrrrrrrr

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Try excusing that eh, usual apologists.

Can you point to a single poster who you deem an "apologist"?

And to think they could have got off due to TR's idiotic behaviour!

mcmoustache

FTA69 wrote: »

I don’t like rapists and abusers at all and think they’re sh*tbags. Equally I don’t like far right scrotes using this issue to push their own agenda, especially when a load of EDL types have been nonces for years but Robinson never had a thing to say about it.

It's mad. it's almost as if it's possible to hate multiple types of cnut at the same time.

FTA69

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Try excusing that eh, usual apologists.

Who here apologised for these scumbags? They're obviously disgusting animals. They're also animals who Tommy Robinson nearly got off the hook because he jeopardised their convictions for some Facebook likes. I mean who needs anonymity in sensitive trials with a victim after all, having some scrote from Luton jump up and down outside the courthouse to boost his own profile is of far more importance.

Again, abusers are sh*t. It doesn't mean Tommy and his mob are the answer, enough of his mates were nonces anyway. (He wasn't outside their trials though)

ohnonotgmail

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Try excusing that eh, usual apologists.

That would be the trial that Tommy tried to screw up with his stunt.

Billy86

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6294939/Huddersfield-Asian-sex-gang-jailed-200-years.html

Try excusing that eh, usual apologists.

They could always stoop lower like you do when it's Catholic priests instead of Muslims abusing children, and point blank pretend that these allegations are made up lies.

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

"We believe"- so making up numbers then for effect ?

ancapailldorcha

Billy86 wrote: »

They could always stoop lower like you do when it's Catholic priests instead of Muslims abusing children, and point blank pretend that these allegations are made up lies.

Found this list on Reddit:

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/sick-trio-kept-schoolgirl-14-13909373

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/northampton-couple-convicted-of-nearly-100-child-sex-offences

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/03/five-men-found-guilty-of-being-members-of-predatory-paedophile-ring-wales

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/nov/26/cornwall-paedophile-ring-men-jailed

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/22/child-sex-paedophile-abuse-gang-revealed-trial-two-convictions

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/770752/Men-groomed-teenage-girl-prostitute-jailed-11-years-Thomas-Entwistle-Martin-Cantle/amp?__twitter_impression=true

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/distressing-video-reveals-how-facebook-9560118.amp

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/trio-jailed-total-45-years-13493289

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/norwich-paedophile-ring-child-abuse-gang-that-played-poker-decide-who-rape-facing-jail-1521484

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3781461/amp/Paedophile-gang-abused-children-five-decades-branded-monsters-deepest-darkest-depths.html

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/gang-sold-teenage-boy-birmingham-11578840.amp

https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/sex-trafficking-ring-trial-two-13934620

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/couple-drug-sexual-abuse-young-girl-us-paedophile-skype-watch-plymouth-sarah-gotham-craig-forbes-a8022486.html

https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/girl-13-abused-after-couple-lured-her-in-1-393414

http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/15372610._Depraved__Worcester_paedophiles_jailed/

http://www.newslocker.com/en-uk/profession/administration/sydenham-paedophile-ring-linked-to-church-choir-jailed-for-years-of-sex-abuse/view/

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2014/02/12/oap-from-craven-arms-jailed-for-sexual-abuse/

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/teacher-william-hanna-filmed-sick-4389384

http://www.bromleytimes.co.uk/news/paedophiles-jailed-after-online-grooming-led-to-rape-of-beckenham-schoolgirl-1-1954173

http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/10247315.Warrington_couple_jailed_for_role_in__sick__child_sex_ring/

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/paedophile-sex-ring-animals-farm-nicholas-cordery-387868

https://www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/news/chester-cheshire-news/paedos-filmed-rapes-of-children-5281358

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/rapist-jailed-3532546

https://metro.co.uk/2011/09/02/stephanie-knight-jailed-for-luring-girls-to-terrifying-rape-ordeal-136717/

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/trial-starts-man-accused-running-1825842

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/five-found-guilty-sex-cult-1845075

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7417871.stm

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/taunton-paedophiles-sentenced-series-sexual-67943

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/friends-who-met-army-carried-13247952

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/men-jailed-for-over-30-years-909768.amp

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6993293.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/5008772.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4759072.stm

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/8160109.Bournemouth_paedophile_ring_brought_to_justice/

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/dec/20/five-jailed-international-paedophile-ring

http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/11516331.Pair_sentenced_for_child_sex_offences/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-14069804

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/3865208.Blackburn_men_jailed_for_sex_offences_with_girls__14/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/victim-bbc-radio-presenters-says-10596985

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/taxi-driver-gets-life-for-sex-attacks-2113832.html

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/northampton-couple-convicted-of-nearly-100-child-sex-offences

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/03/five-men-found-guilty-of-being-members-of-predatory-paedophile-ring-wales

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-42438082

http://www.hertsad.co.uk/news/markyate-man-jailed-as-part-of-paedophile-ring-with-men-from-berkhamsted-hemel-hempstead-and-northchurch-1-5329324

https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/local-paedophile-ring-appear-court-child-sex-offences/

https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/home/297656/longford-circuit-court-hears-paedophile-ring-not-in-operation-at-gaa-grounds-where-children-were-sexually-abused.html

The usual noisemakers seem to be fine with for some odd reason while man of the people Tommy Robinson/Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/Andrew McMaster/Paul Harris buys a house for nearly a million pounds. I thought he needed donations for legal fees but it just looks like a new incarnation of his mortgage scam.

Tilikum17

Appointed adviser to UKIP leader

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/tommy-robinson-appointed-as-adviser-to-ukip-leader-887243.html

Captain Obvious

Interestingly enough we just had a case here in Ireland of a case collapsing due to media reporting. This is what Robinson was in danger of doing multiple times.

A rape trial has collapsed due to an allegedly prejudicial newspaper report that linked the case to the ongoing debate around the fairness of rape trials.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/rape-trial-collapses-over-newspaper-articles-allegedly-prejudicial-content-37569260.html

Captain Obvious

Tommy back in legal trouble. He spread defamatory statements, or fake news as they say, about the victim of the bullying video that went viral. Accused him of being involved in kicking and biting a female student. He has now retracted that claim admitting it was false but replaced it with a claim the victim was threatening to stab the guy who attacked him. It's no surprise to many that the person Tommy is gunning for in this scenario is not white.

ohnonotgmail

It is no surprise at all that the little thug is a fan of Tommy.

Billy Mays

Underage rape and sex trafficking trial involving girls from a care home going on in Cardiff recently

I presume are Tommy has been all over this. Perhaps one of his fans on here can confirm?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/jury-delivers-verdicts-rape-sex-15510431.amp?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar&__twitter_impression=true

Grayson

Billy Mays wrote: »

Underage rape and sex trafficking trial involving girls from a care home going on in Cardiff recently

I presume are Tommy has been all over this. Perhaps one of his fans on here can confirm?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/jury-delivers-verdicts-rape-sex-15510431.amp?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar&__twitter_impression=true

Probably not. He's been too busy launching social media attacks against a Syrian boy who was attacked. The fecker didn't even apologise to the kid afterwards.

The family are suing him, as they should. Hopefully it'll work out the same as the Katie Hopkins trial.

Grayson

You notice none of his defenders are coming back to defend his actions?

ohnonotgmail

Grayson wrote: »

You notice none of his defenders are coming back to defend his actions?

You need to take a look at the thread on him in A+A for that.

Captain Obvious

Grayson wrote: »

You notice none of his defenders are coming back to defend his actions?

They're doing it on other threads instead.

RWCNT

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

You need to take a look at the thread on him in A+A for that.

Pardon my ignorance, what is A + A?

ohnonotgmail

RWCNT wrote: »

Pardon my ignorance, what is A + A?

the Atheism & Agnosticism forum. this is the thread.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057923632&page=12

Billy86

Billy Mays wrote: »

Underage rape and sex trafficking trial involving girls from a care home going on in Cardiff recently

I presume are Tommy has been all over this. Perhaps one of his fans on here can confirm?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/jury-delivers-verdicts-rape-sex-15510431.amp?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar&__twitter_impression=true

Maybe he'll go one further and accuse the authorities of "stitching up" the culprits, just like he initially did when his close friend and EDL co-founder Richard Price was found with a bunch of child porn on his computer. It's a bit of a recurring theme for Tommy's former far right associates, many of whom have been arrested for child porn and child abuse, and here's what Tommy and his supporters typically have to say about it:

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seamus

I don't know why I'm so surprised when these guys are revealed to be kiddy fiddlers. Racism, domestic abuse and child abuse all go hand-in-hand. You rarely find one without one of the other two.

AllForIt

Billy Mays wrote: »

Underage rape and sex trafficking trial involving girls from a care home going on in Cardiff recently

I presume are Tommy has been all over this. Perhaps one of his fans on here can confirm?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/jury-delivers-verdicts-rape-sex-15510431.amp?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar&__twitter_impression=true

Were the perpetrators protected because of their white ethnicity?

Billy86

AllForIt wrote: »

Were the perpetrators protected because of their white ethnicity?

Well it's been going on and known about for years, so in the interests of consistency, I'm sure the Tommy Robinson supporters are of the opinion that, yes they were.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-29009500