The government has published a new map outlining in detail 700,000 rural homes and businesses which will be connected to state-subsidised broadband of at least 30 megabits per second (Mbs) from 2016.
jgbyr wrote: » https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/1008/1001738-national-broadband-plan/
Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: » I would not dismiss it as talking through his hat but it could be a case of "we'll use ESB poles in areas where there is no, or insufficient, eir infrastructure". That would also satisfy his claims. I think it is a large leap to assume that it all will be on ESB. Why were the ESB not listed as a partner or at least a sub-contractor? They are notoriously protectionist about access to their network. I also think you're misreading Carolan Lennon's comments. That was not the impression I took from them. As for Eamon Ryan...
KOR101 wrote: » I don't really disagree with you. We just don't know do we. Maybe the proposed legislation never appeared because they decided to go directly to plan B on the poles.
Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: » I'm making some assumptions without knowing how they actually plan on building this. In my example above the first cable would be the open eir rural fibre cable. So for example say my premises is passed by open eir, a premises 500m from me is not. Now National Broadband Ireland have to bring kilometres of fibre from wherever they locate their OLT to reach this premises passing my home and others on the way but unable to make the service available to me due to state aid rules. Hence the two cables passing my door. Now I could have this wrong and they have something else planned. Perhaps there is dark fibre capacity in the open eir cable and they'll use that but I haven't heard it being mentioned. What is your take on it? Am I way off?
digiman wrote: » I thought you meant something else actually which is why I was confirming before I replied!! If the winners of the NBP have any sense at all they will ask for OpenEir to offer them dark fibre to connect up these <30Mb/s homes which are dotted inside areas which have >30Mb/s. The department should also be pushing this otherwise it will vastly drive up the cost of the NBP by a huge amount, no technical reason why using dark fibre from eir wouldn't work, it will just be a commercial discussion with eir.
Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: » It would certainly be the neatest solution from a technical and cost point of view but it assumes that open eir will be willing to play ball and perhaps they will. However everything that has been mentioned do far in relation to eir is about pole and duct access, I haven't heard or read anything mentioning using the existing cabling that is there though that may be because most of the discussion has been lacking in technical details.
Ten Pin wrote: » McCourt on Newstalk now He never says a whole lot but just in case
wexfordman2 wrote: » There is eir rural fibre run in to about half a mile from me, and about 8 houses between it and us. A dark fibre from with at the last rural fibre house, and about ten eir poles past it and every house is covered.
Pique wrote: » What's 'dark fibre' ?
BArra wrote: » should there not have been some mention? where will they pull the money from if it gets green light?
westyIrl wrote: » Well, nothing related to broadband in budget summary anyways. Jim
fergus1001 wrote: » there is no mention of capital expenditure in the budget so that will be in the finance bill
David McCourt wrote: The whole system is designed around the Government owned MANS. The whole system we designed around the enet network. The co-locations are on the enet network, the NOC, the backhaul. enet still plays a very important role.
Daid McCourt wrote: It's a process of going around to each area of Ireland and starting the detailed design, we've already done the global design and then building hotspots, I call 'em, in each region of Ireland so you start getting connectivity in each region of Ireland.
Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: » Also how have they managed to make a bid if they are still in discussion with infrastructure providers (eir, ESB) about access? You would imagine that would have been resolved by now.
Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: » Will the NBP process end up in the courts?https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/will-naughten-s-broadband-process-end-up-in-the-courts-1.3656071
Marlow wrote: » The likelyhood of that is big, with the way they've mismanaged that whole procurement process. /M
KOR101 wrote: » It's crying out for a Judicial Review alright. The WISPs have probably figured out at this point that there is indeed life after fibre.
Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: » Plus Imagine were actually part of the process before they were turfed out.
m99T wrote: » Sure if he says it, it must be true?
