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Correlation between 5K ,10K, HM and Marathon times

average_runner

Thought this might be an interesting thread for some.

Some people would have a strong 5k time but their longer distance might struggle or vice versa.

How do you go about improving your longer distances ? What is the correlation between the 5k up to the marathon?

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Testosterscone

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

That's the nature of racing, isn't it?

I've run approximately 250 races to date and can name exactly 3 where I think I got the optimum out of myself, when I managed to pace it well and arrived at the finish line just about at the point of collapse. One was a 5k, one a marathon, one a 24 hours race, so basically covering the entire spectrum of distance running.

In shorter races I just don't seem to have the desire to push myself to the limit; in longer races the difference between just right and too fast is so fine it's very hard to get it right.

This desire is something one could argue that you both a) need to want to do and b) need to train to do

This was more the point I was making rather than the times of races click. The training specific aspect is not just about pace it is also about pain management.

FWIW my times across the distances

5k - 16.15
5m - 26.35
10k - 34.10
10m - 56.54
HM - 1.14.48
Mar - 2.43.03 (1st marathon and a learning experience on correlation

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Itziger

MrMacPhisto wrote: »

Itziger wrote: »

Well, 'Phisto, as well as mangling the poor bleedin' table, I'd like to point out that it's out of date!! That Itziger fella is now Half 1.21.06 and Full 2.59.10 (For those who point out that the full is poor, A) I know and it was done after the 2.59) And C) I'm not too good at 42k

Ah sure it gives lots of data points and lets ya see how much better or worse you are now.... Is that the 'downhill' half time? I need to run a ten mile race, thats an old one.

It bloody well is not. I'll post that one later. Twice dipping under 1.20 m8 on that one. (It's short as well as downhill!!) The second time I ran it, I went out too fast and died towards the end - last 8k or so :O As I was approaching the finishing chute, about 4 foot wide, I see a couple finishing the 10k hand in hand. I knew if I didn't pass 'em before the finishing chute the sub 80 was gone. Had to flippin' sprint for 50 metres to beat 'em to the narrow finish. Of course the crowd, such as it was, was cheering the happy couple and couldn't give a toss about my epic effort. There's no justice in this running gig.

Itziger

You should avoid posting when 'under the influence'. Just noticed I used the words 'finishing' and 'chute' about 6 times each there.

Itziger

Oh Dear. Forgot to press Stop on this one.... https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1668911647

And the 'original' one .........https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/745201333
Unfortunately neither have maps for some reason.
What is it about the 21.1k though? Jeez, it just seems to be my optimum race distance

squinn2912

All of my best times come from very different programmes and years apart. I need to race more

5k X
10k 37:54
1/2 1:23:12
Full 2:58:13

Classic21

Name|5k|5m|10k|10m|HM|Mara|Note
McMillan|18:28|30:28|38:22|1:04:07|1:25:32|3:00:00|Ref Times
TbL |19:27|31:xx|39:30|1:04:xx|1:25:xx|3:05:xx|
FBOT|17:42|29:59|38:42|1:00:34|1:26:02|3:00:59|
AMK|17:38|29:13|37:40|1:02:30|1:27:xx|3:00:36|
Tomwaits48|19:17|32:00|39:xx|1:05:45|1:28:xx|3:17:xx|
Duanington|17:35|29:17|36:36|1:01:42|1:23:22|3:03:xx|
MrMacPhisto|17:02|28:35|35:44|1:01:55|1:19:35|2:47:17|
snailsong|19:06|31:49|39:11|N/A|1:28:20|3:06:52|
rooneyjm|19:35|N/A|39:20|1:08:xx|1:29:37|3:23:xx|
davedanon|18:34|31:34|39:51|1:06:21|1:30:30|3:14:18|
Itziger|17:50|29:52|36:48|N/A|1:21:06|2:59:10|
Sandwell|17:24|28:57|37:10|0:59:29|1:22:xx|N/A|
Tomred1N |19:01|32:25|41:40|1:05:57|1:28:30|3:12:41|
Ainsyjnr |18:32|30:07|36:50|1:02:24|1:24:04|3:01:46|
Averagejoe123|17:47|30:26|38:41|1:04:45|1:27:xx|3:17:xx|
Kemboi|18:00|29:50|38:00|1:05:50|1:25:30|3:07:xx|
CR 7|17:45|30:30|37:21|1:04:50|1:23:25|5:04:xx|
El Caballo|18:34|31:15|39:46|1:05:xx|1:26:26|3:15:29|
Bulmers74|18:54|31:46|39:33|1:06:00|1:26:27|3:08:36|
ger664|19:45|N/A|41:11|1:09:33|1:35:56|3:18:12|
Jahaco|19:22|31:08|39:07|1:04:19|1:26:23|3:03:19|
Murph_D|19:48|33:53|43:19|1:11:33|1:34:17|3:22:11|
Singer|18:39|31:47|38:55|1:06:12|1:27:33|3:14:11|
BeepBeep67|16:52|28:24|36:00|0:59:45|1:19:55|2:55:51|
Classic21|18:45|n/a|38:45|1:06:15|1:23:40|3:16:50|
SlowTwitch|19:00|31:08|39:31|1:05:09|1:26:00|3:00:22|BetterLongDist
MediumTwitch|18:40|30:40|39:01|1:04:31|1:26:13|2:59:46|BetterMedDist
FastTwitch|18:22|30:16|38:34|1:03:57|1:25:45|2:59:36|BetterShortDist

10k and half are recent times, last two months. 10 mile is the start of the year and I have ran 10 miles quicker during the half in Charleville. Full is from last year. 5k is an old time
The table will be more relevant after Dublin

hot buttered scones

Name|5k|5m|10k|10m|HM|Mara|Note
McMillan|18:28|30:28|38:22|1:04:07|1:25:32|3:00:00|Ref Times
TbL |19:27|31:xx|39:30|1:04:xx|1:25:xx|3:05:xx|
FBOT|17:42|29:59|38:42|1:00:34|1:26:02|3:00:59|
AMK|17:38|29:13|37:40|1:02:30|1:27:xx|3:00:36|
Tomwaits48|19:17|32:00|39:xx|1:05:45|1:28:xx|3:17:xx|
Duanington|17:35|29:17|36:36|1:01:42|1:23:22|3:03:xx|
MrMacPhisto|17:02|28:35|35:44|1:01:55|1:19:35|2:47:17|
snailsong|19:06|31:49|39:11|N/A|1:28:20|3:06:52|
rooneyjm|19:35|N/A|39:20|1:08:xx|1:29:37|3:23:xx|
davedanon|18:34|31:34|39:51|1:06:21|1:30:30|3:14:18|
Itziger|17:50|29:52|36:48|N/A|1:21:06|2:59:10|
Sandwell|17:24|28:57|37:10|0:59:29|1:22:xx|N/A|
Tomred1N |19:01|32:25|41:40|1:05:57|1:28:30|3:12:41|
Ainsyjnr |18:32|30:07|36:50|1:02:24|1:24:04|3:01:46|
Averagejoe123|17:47|30:26|38:41|1:04:45|1:27:xx|3:17:xx|
Kemboi|18:00|29:50|38:00|1:05:50|1:25:30|3:07:xx|
CR 7|17:45|30:30|37:21|1:04:50|1:23:25|5:04:xx|
El Caballo|18:34|31:15|39:46|1:05:xx|1:26:26|3:15:29|
Bulmers74|18:54|31:46|39:33|1:06:00|1:26:27|3:08:36|
ger664|19:45|N/A|41:11|1:09:33|1:35:56|3:18:12|
Jahaco|19:22|31:08|39:07|1:04:19|1:26:23|3:03:19|
Murph_D|19:48|33:53|43:19|1:11:33|1:34:17|3:22:11|
Singer|18:39|31:47|38:55|1:06:12|1:27:33|3:14:11|
BeepBeep67|16:52|28:24|36:00|0:59:45|1:19:55|2:55:51|
Classic21|18:45|n/a|38:45|1:06:15|1:23:40|3:16:50|
hot buttered scones|19:17|n/a|40:37|1:04:46|1:26:37|3:09:13|
SlowTwitch|19:00|31:08|39:31|1:05:09|1:26:00|3:00:22|BetterLongDist
MediumTwitch|18:40|30:40|39:01|1:04:31|1:26:13|2:59:46|BetterMedDist
FastTwitch|18:22|30:16|38:34|1:03:57|1:25:45|2:59:36|BetterShortDist

I haven't included 5 miles because my PB is from years ago. I ran a faster 10k during the 10 mile PB. 10 mile and 10k times are from this year, the rest are from last year.

boydkev

Name|5k|5m|10k|10m|HM|Mara|Note
McMillan|18:28|30:28|38:22|1:04:07|1:25:32|3:00:00|Ref Times
TbL |19:27|31:xx|39:30|1:04:xx|1:25:xx|3:05:xx|
FBOT|17:42|29:59|38:42|1:00:34|1:26:02|3:00:59|
AMK|17:38|29:13|37:40|1:02:30|1:27:xx|3:00:36|
Tomwaits48|19:17|32:00|39:xx|1:05:45|1:28:xx|3:17:xx|
Duanington|17:35|29:17|36:36|1:01:42|1:23:22|3:03:xx|
MrMacPhisto|17:02|28:35|35:44|1:01:55|1:19:35|2:47:17|
snailsong|19:06|31:49|39:11|N/A|1:28:20|3:06:52|
rooneyjm|19:35|N/A|39:20|1:08:xx|1:29:37|3:23:xx|
davedanon|18:34|31:34|39:51|1:06:21|1:30:30|3:14:18|
Itziger|17:50|29:52|36:48|N/A|1:21:06|2:59:10|
Sandwell|17:24|28:57|37:10|0:59:29|1:22:xx|N/A|
Tomred1N |19:01|32:25|41:40|1:05:57|1:28:30|3:12:41|
Ainsyjnr |18:32|30:07|36:50|1:02:24|1:24:04|3:01:46|
Averagejoe123|17:47|30:26|38:41|1:04:45|1:27:xx|3:17:xx|
Kemboi|18:00|29:50|38:00|1:05:50|1:25:30|3:07:xx|
CR 7|17:45|30:30|37:21|1:04:50|1:23:25|5:04:xx|
El Caballo|18:34|31:15|39:46|1:05:xx|1:26:26|3:15:29|
Bulmers74|18:54|31:46|39:33|1:06:00|1:26:27|3:08:36|
boydkev|18:55|32:10|41.12|1:05:55|1:28:20|3:31:35|
ger664|19:45|N/A|41:11|1:09:33|1:35:56|3:18:12|
Jahaco|19:22|31:08|39:07|1:04:19|1:26:23|3:03:19|
Murph_D|19:48|33:53|43:19|1:11:33|1:34:17|3:22:11|
Singer|18:39|31:47|38:55|1:06:12|1:27:33|3:14:11|
BeepBeep67|16:52|28:24|36:00|0:59:45|1:19:55|2:55:51|
Classic21|18:45|n/a|38:45|1:06:15|1:23:40|3:16:50|
hot buttered scones|19:17|n/a|40:37|1:04:46|1:26:37|3:09:13|
SlowTwitch|19:00|31:08|39:31|1:05:09|1:26:00|3:00:22|BetterLongDist
MediumTwitch|18:40|30:40|39:01|1:04:31|1:26:13|2:59:46|BetterMedDist
FastTwitch|18:22|30:16|38:34|1:03:57|1:25:45|2:59:36|BetterShortDist

All results are from this year and hoping to get a good time in DCM.

healy1835

Name|5k|5m|10k|10m|HM|Mara|Note
McMillan|18:28|30:28|38:22|1:04:07|1:25:32|3:00:00|Ref Times
TbL |19:27|31:xx|39:30|1:04:xx|1:25:xx|3:05:xx|
FBOT|17:42|29:59|38:42|1:00:34|1:26:02|3:00:59|
AMK|17:38|29:13|37:40|1:02:30|1:27:xx|3:00:36|
Tomwaits48|19:17|32:00|39:xx|1:05:45|1:28:xx|3:17:xx|
Duanington|17:35|29:17|36:36|1:01:42|1:23:22|3:03:xx|
MrMacPhisto|17:02|28:35|35:44|1:01:55|1:19:35|2:47:17|
snailsong|19:06|31:49|39:11|N/A|1:28:20|3:06:52|
rooneyjm|19:35|N/A|39:20|1:08:xx|1:29:37|3:23:xx|
davedanon|18:34|31:34|39:51|1:06:21|1:30:30|3:14:18|
Itziger|17:50|29:52|36:48|N/A|1:21:06|2:59:10|
Sandwell|17:24|28:57|37:10|0:59:29|1:22:xx|N/A|
Tomred1N |19:01|32:25|41:40|1:05:57|1:28:30|3:12:41|
Ainsyjnr |18:32|30:07|36:50|1:02:24|1:24:04|3:01:46|
Averagejoe123|17:47|30:26|38:41|1:04:45|1:27:xx|3:17:xx|
Kemboi|18:00|29:50|38:00|1:05:50|1:25:30|3:07:xx|
CR 7|17:45|30:30|37:21|1:04:50|1:23:25|5:04:xx|
El Caballo|18:34|31:15|39:46|1:05:xx|1:26:26|3:15:29|
Bulmers74|18:54|31:46|39:33|1:06:00|1:26:27|3:08:36|
boydkev|18:55|32:10|41.12|1:05:55|1:28:20|3:31:35|
ger664|19:45|N/A|41:11|1:09:33|1:35:56|3:18:12|
Jahaco|19:22|31:08|39:07|1:04:19|1:26:23|3:03:19|
Murph_D|19:48|33:53|43:19|1:11:33|1:34:17|3:22:11|
Singer|18:39|31:47|38:55|1:06:12|1:27:33|3:14:11|
BeepBeep67|16:52|28:24|36:00|0:59:45|1:19:55|2:55:51|
Classic21|18:45|n/a|38:45|1:06:15|1:23:40|3:16:50|
hot buttered scones|19:17|n/a|40:37|1:04:46|1:26:37|3:09:13|
HelenAnne|20:08|33:52|43:24|n/a|n/a|n/a|
Testosterscone|16:15|26:35|34:10|56:54|1:14:48|2:43:03|
Squinn2912|n/a|n/a|37:54|n/a|1:23:12|2:58:13|
Healy1835|18:52|29:51|38:56|1:00:33|1:19:59|2:59:45|
SlowTwitch|19:00|31:08|39:31|1:05:09|1:26:00|3:00:22|BetterLongDist
MediumTwitch|18:40|30:40|39:01|1:04:31|1:26:13|2:59:46|BetterMedDist
FastTwitch|18:22|30:16|38:34|1:03:57|1:25:45|2:59:36|BetterShortDist

Adding in my own and the last couple of posters. 10Mile and Half are from this current training block. Shorter distances haven't been raced too regularly. Not running a spring marathon so hoping to move a bit closer to some of these equivalent times after DCM, which I also hope to move closer in line to the 10Mile and Half

OOnegative

Name|5k|5m|10k|10m|HM|Mara|Note
McMillan|18:28|30:28|38:22|1:04:07|1:25:32|3:00:00|Ref Times
TbL |19:27|31:xx|39:30|1:04:xx|1:25:xx|3:05:xx|
FBOT|17:42|29:59|38:42|1:00:34|1:26:02|3:00:59|
AMK|17:38|29:13|37:40|1:02:30|1:27:xx|3:00:36|
Tomwaits48|19:17|32:00|39:xx|1:05:45|1:28:xx|3:17:xx|
Duanington|17:35|29:17|36:36|1:01:42|1:23:22|3:03:xx|
MrMacPhisto|17:02|28:35|35:44|1:01:55|1:19:35|2:47:17|
snailsong|19:06|31:49|39:11|N/A|1:28:20|3:06:52|
rooneyjm|19:35|N/A|39:20|1:08:xx|1:29:37|3:23:xx|
davedanon|18:34|31:34|39:51|1:06:21|1:30:30|3:14:18|
Itziger|17:50|29:52|36:48|N/A|1:21:06|2:59:10|
Sandwell|17:24|28:57|37:10|0:59:29|1:22:xx|N/A|
Tomred1N |19:01|32:25|41:40|1:05:57|1:28:30|3:12:41|
Ainsyjnr |18:32|30:07|36:50|1:02:24|1:24:04|3:01:46|
Averagejoe123|17:47|30:26|38:41|1:04:45|1:27:xx|3:17:xx|
Kemboi|18:00|29:50|38:00|1:05:50|1:25:30|3:07:xx|
CR 7|17:45|30:30|37:21|1:04:50|1:23:25|5:04:xx|
El Caballo|18:34|31:15|39:46|1:05:xx|1:26:26|3:15:29|
Bulmers74|18:54|31:46|39:33|1:06:00|1:26:27|3:08:36|
boydkev|18:55|32:10|41.12|1:05:55|1:28:20|3:31:35|
ger664|19:45|N/A|41:11|1:09:33|1:35:56|3:18:12|
Jahaco|19:22|31:08|39:07|1:04:19|1:26:23|3:03:19|
Murph_D|19:48|33:53|43:19|1:11:33|1:34:17|3:22:11|
Singer|18:39|31:47|38:55|1:06:12|1:27:33|3:14:11|
BeepBeep67|16:52|28:24|36:00|0:59:45|1:19:55|2:55:51|
Classic21|18:45|n/a|38:45|1:06:15|1:23:40|3:16:50|
hot buttered scones|19:17|n/a|40:37|1:04:46|1:26:37|3:09:13|
HelenAnne|20:08|33:52|43:24|n/a|n/a|n/a|
Testosterscone|16:15|26:35|34:10|56:54|1:14:48|2:43:03|
Squinn2912|n/a|n/a|37:54|n/a|1:23:12|2:58:13|
Healy1835|18:52|29:51|38:56|1:00:33|1:19:59|2:59:45|
OOnegative|18.25|n/a|38.46|64.19|1.26.11|3.15.10
SlowTwitch|19:00|31:08|39:31|1:05:09|1:26:00|3:00:22|BetterLongDist
MediumTwitch|18:40|30:40|39:01|1:04:31|1:26:13|2:59:46|BetterMedDist
FastTwitch|18:22|30:16|38:34|1:03:57|1:25:45|2:59:36|BetterShortDist

10k, Half and Marathon times are all this year, 5k and 10 mile date back to 2016. Big drop off in marathon time compared to other times but I know i’m no endurance freak, it’s a distance I will have to work on.

AuldManKing

Name|5k|5m|10k|10m|HM|Mara|Note
McMillan|18:28|30:28|38:22|1:04:07|1:25:32|3:00:00|Ref Times
TbL |19:27|31:xx|39:30|1:04:xx|1:25:xx|3:05:xx|
FBOT|17:42|29:59|38:42|1:00:34|1:26:02|3:00:59|
AMK|17:28|28:53|36:09|1:01:40|1:23:53|2:58:01|
Tomwaits48|19:17|32:00|39:xx|1:05:45|1:28:xx|3:17:xx|
Duanington|17:35|29:17|36:36|1:01:42|1:23:22|3:03:xx|
MrMacPhisto|17:02|28:35|35:44|1:01:55|1:19:35|2:47:17|
snailsong|19:06|31:49|39:11|N/A|1:28:20|3:06:52|
rooneyjm|19:35|N/A|39:20|1:08:xx|1:29:37|3:23:xx|
davedanon|18:34|31:34|39:51|1:06:21|1:30:30|3:14:18|
Itziger|17:50|29:52|36:48|N/A|1:21:06|2:59:10|
Sandwell|17:24|28:57|37:10|0:59:29|1:22:xx|N/A|
Tomred1N |19:01|32:25|41:40|1:05:57|1:28:30|3:12:41|
Ainsyjnr |18:32|30:07|36:50|1:02:24|1:24:04|3:01:46|
Averagejoe123|17:47|30:26|38:41|1:04:45|1:27:xx|3:17:xx|
Kemboi|18:00|29:50|38:00|1:05:50|1:25:30|3:07:xx|
CR 7|17:45|30:30|37:21|1:04:50|1:23:25|5:04:xx|
El Caballo|18:34|31:15|39:46|1:05:xx|1:26:26|3:15:29|
Bulmers74|18:54|31:46|39:33|1:06:00|1:26:27|3:08:36|
boydkev|18:55|32:10|41.12|1:05:55|1:28:20|3:31:35|
ger664|19:45|N/A|41:11|1:09:33|1:35:56|3:18:12|
Jahaco|19:22|31:08|39:07|1:04:19|1:26:23|3:03:19|
Murph_D|19:48|33:53|43:19|1:11:33|1:34:17|3:22:11|
Singer|18:39|31:47|38:55|1:06:12|1:27:33|3:14:11|
BeepBeep67|16:52|28:24|36:00|0:59:45|1:19:55|2:55:51|
Classic21|18:45|n/a|38:45|1:06:15|1:23:40|3:16:50|
hot buttered scones|19:17|n/a|40:37|1:04:46|1:26:37|3:09:13|
HelenAnne|20:08|33:52|43:24|n/a|n/a|n/a|
Testosterscone|16:15|26:35|34:10|56:54|1:14:48|2:43:03|
Squinn2912|n/a|n/a|37:54|n/a|1:23:12|2:58:13|
Healy1835|18:52|29:51|38:56|1:00:33|1:19:59|2:59:45|
OOnegative|18.25|n/a|38.46|64.19|1.26.11|3.15.10
SlowTwitch|19:00|31:08|39:31|1:05:09|1:26:00|3:00:22|BetterLongDist
MediumTwitch|18:40|30:40|39:01|1:04:31|1:26:13|2:59:46|BetterMedDist
FastTwitch|18:22|30:16|38:34|1:03:57|1:25:45|2:59:36|BetterShortDist

Correcting my times.
Faster at shorter stuff. Need to do better at 10m/HM/Mara

average_runner

Name|5k|5m|10k|10m|HM|Mara|Note
McMillan|18:28|30:28|38:22|1:04:07|1:25:32|3:00:00|Ref Times
TbL |19:27|31:xx|39:30|1:04:xx|1:25:xx|3:05:xx|
FBOT|17:42|29:59|38:42|1:00:34|1:26:02|3:00:59|
AMK|17:28|28:53|36:09|1:01:40|1:23:53|2:58:01|
Tomwaits48|19:17|32:00|39:xx|1:05:45|1:28:xx|3:17:xx|
Duanington|17:35|29:17|36:36|1:01:42|1:23:22|3:03:xx|
MrMacPhisto|17:02|28:35|35:44|1:01:55|1:19:35|2:47:17|
snailsong|19:06|31:49|39:11|N/A|1:28:20|3:06:52|
rooneyjm|19:35|N/A|39:20|1:08:xx|1:29:37|3:23:xx|
davedanon|18:34|31:34|39:51|1:06:21|1:30:30|3:14:18|
Itziger|17:50|29:52|36:48|N/A|1:21:06|2:59:10|
Sandwell|17:24|28:57|37:10|0:59:29|1:22:xx|N/A|
Tomred1N |19:01|32:25|41:40|1:05:57|1:28:30|3:12:41|
Ainsyjnr |18:32|30:07|36:50|1:02:24|1:24:04|3:01:46|
Averagejoe123|17:47|30:26|38:41|1:04:45|1:27:xx|3:17:xx|
Kemboi|18:00|29:50|38:00|1:05:50|1:25:30|3:07:xx|
CR 7|17:45|30:30|37:21|1:04:50|1:23:25|5:04:xx|
El Caballo|18:34|31:15|39:46|1:05:xx|1:26:26|3:15:29|
Bulmers74|18:54|31:46|39:33|1:06:00|1:26:27|3:08:36|
boydkev|18:55|32:10|41.12|1:05:55|1:28:20|3:31:35|
ger664|19:45|N/A|41:11|1:09:33|1:35:56|3:18:12|
Jahaco|19:22|31:08|39:07|1:04:19|1:26:23|3:03:19|
Murph_D|19:48|33:53|43:19|1:11:33|1:34:17|3:22:11|
Singer|18:39|31:47|38:55|1:06:12|1:27:33|3:14:11|
BeepBeep67|16:52|28:24|36:00|0:59:45|1:19:55|2:55:51|
Classic21|18:45|n/a|38:45|1:06:15|1:23:40|3:16:50|
hot buttered scones|19:17|n/a|40:37|1:04:46|1:26:37|3:09:13|
HelenAnne|20:08|33:52|43:24|n/a|n/a|n/a|
Testosterscone|16:15|26:35|34:10|56:54|1:14:48|2:43:03|
Squinn2912|n/a|n/a|37:54|n/a|1:23:12|2:58:13|
Healy1835|18:52|29:51|38:56|1:00:33|1:19:59|2:59:45|
OOnegative|18.25|n/a|38.46|64.19|1.26.11|3.15.10
Average_runner|19.38|33:00|42:07|73:20|1:39:26|3:41:30|
SlowTwitch|19:00|31:08|39:31|1:05:09|1:26:00|3:00:22|BetterLongDist
MediumTwitch|18:40|30:40|39:01|1:04:31|1:26:13|2:59:46|BetterMedDist
FastTwitch|18:22|30:16|38:34|1:03:57|1:25:45|2:59:36|BetterShortDist

All my pbs are a few years ago now. Need to set it straight next year!

shotgunmcos

Name|5k|5m|10k|10m|HM|Mara|Note
McMillan|18:28|30:28|38:22|1:04:07|1:25:32|3:00:00|Ref Times
TbL |19:27|31:xx|39:30|1:04:xx|1:25:xx|3:05:xx|
FBOT|17:42|29:59|38:42|1:00:34|1:26:02|3:00:59|
AMK|17:28|28:53|36:09|1:01:40|1:23:53|2:58:01|
Tomwaits48|19:17|32:00|39:xx|1:05:45|1:28:xx|3:17:xx|
Duanington|17:35|29:17|36:36|1:01:42|1:23:22|3:03:xx|
MrMacPhisto|17:02|28:35|35:44|1:01:55|1:19:35|2:47:17|
snailsong|19:06|31:49|39:11|N/A|1:28:20|3:06:52|
rooneyjm|19:35|N/A|39:20|1:08:xx|1:29:37|3:23:xx|
davedanon|18:34|31:34|39:51|1:06:21|1:30:30|3:14:18|
Itziger|17:50|29:52|36:48|N/A|1:21:06|2:59:10|
Sandwell|17:24|28:57|37:10|0:59:29|1:22:xx|N/A|
Tomred1N |19:01|32:25|41:40|1:05:57|1:28:30|3:12:41|
Ainsyjnr |18:32|30:07|36:50|1:02:24|1:24:04|3:01:46|
Averagejoe123|17:47|30:26|38:41|1:04:45|1:27:xx|3:17:xx|
Kemboi|18:00|29:50|38:00|1:05:50|1:25:30|3:07:xx|
CR 7|17:45|30:30|37:21|1:04:50|1:23:25|5:04:xx|
Shotgunmcos|18:15|30:10|38:09|1:02:24|1:23:40|3:00:20
El Caballo|18:34|31:15|39:46|1:05:xx|1:26:26|3:15:29|
Bulmers74|18:54|31:46|39:33|1:06:00|1:26:27|3:08:36|
boydkev|18:55|32:10|41.12|1:05:55|1:28:20|3:31:35|
ger664|19:45|N/A|41:11|1:09:33|1:35:56|3:18:12|
Jahaco|19:22|31:08|39:07|1:04:19|1:26:23|3:03:19|
Murph_D|19:48|33:53|43:19|1:11:33|1:34:17|3:22:11|
Singer|18:39|31:47|38:55|1:06:12|1:27:33|3:14:11|
BeepBeep67|16:52|28:24|36:00|0:59:45|1:19:55|2:55:51|
Classic21|18:45|n/a|38:45|1:06:15|1:23:40|3:16:50|
hot buttered scones|19:17|n/a|40:37|1:04:46|1:26:37|3:09:13|
HelenAnne|20:08|33:52|43:24|n/a|n/a|n/a|
Testosterscone|16:15|26:35|34:10|56:54|1:14:48|2:43:03|
Squinn2912|n/a|n/a|37:54|n/a|1:23:12|2:58:13|
Healy1835|18:52|29:51|38:56|1:00:33|1:19:59|2:59:45|
OOnegative|18.25|n/a|38.46|64.19|1.26.11|3.15.10
Average_runner|19.38|33:00|42:07|73:20|1:39:26|3:41:30|
SlowTwitch|19:00|31:08|39:31|1:05:09|1:26:00|3:00:22|BetterLongDist
MediumTwitch|18:40|30:40|39:01|1:04:31|1:26:13|2:59:46|BetterMedDist
FastTwitch|18:22|30:16|38:34|1:03:57|1:25:45|2:59:36|BetterShortDist

All from 2011/2012
Now that I've emerged from a dark age do any new pbs that are not beating "old" pbs count as new age pbs or what? Hard to motivate oneself if looking back on times you did in a different life!

OOnegative

shotgunmcos wrote: »

Name|5k|5m|10k|10m|HM|Mara|Note
McMillan|18:28|30:28|38:22|1:04:07|1:25:32|3:00:00|Ref Times
TbL |19:27|31:xx|39:30|1:04:xx|1:25:xx|3:05:xx|
FBOT|17:42|29:59|38:42|1:00:34|1:26:02|3:00:59|
AMK|17:28|28:53|36:09|1:01:40|1:23:53|2:58:01|
Tomwaits48|19:17|32:00|39:xx|1:05:45|1:28:xx|3:17:xx|
Duanington|17:35|29:17|36:36|1:01:42|1:23:22|3:03:xx|
MrMacPhisto|17:02|28:35|35:44|1:01:55|1:19:35|2:47:17|
snailsong|19:06|31:49|39:11|N/A|1:28:20|3:06:52|
rooneyjm|19:35|N/A|39:20|1:08:xx|1:29:37|3:23:xx|
davedanon|18:34|31:34|39:51|1:06:21|1:30:30|3:14:18|
Itziger|17:50|29:52|36:48|N/A|1:21:06|2:59:10|
Sandwell|17:24|28:57|37:10|0:59:29|1:22:xx|N/A|
Tomred1N |19:01|32:25|41:40|1:05:57|1:28:30|3:12:41|
Ainsyjnr |18:32|30:07|36:50|1:02:24|1:24:04|3:01:46|
Averagejoe123|17:47|30:26|38:41|1:04:45|1:27:xx|3:17:xx|
Kemboi|18:00|29:50|38:00|1:05:50|1:25:30|3:07:xx|
CR 7|17:45|30:30|37:21|1:04:50|1:23:25|5:04:xx|
Shotgunmcos|18:15|30:10|38:09|1:02:24|1:23:40|3:00:20
El Caballo|18:34|31:15|39:46|1:05:xx|1:26:26|3:15:29|
Bulmers74|18:54|31:46|39:33|1:06:00|1:26:27|3:08:36|
boydkev|18:55|32:10|41.12|1:05:55|1:28:20|3:31:35|
ger664|19:45|N/A|41:11|1:09:33|1:35:56|3:18:12|
Jahaco|19:22|31:08|39:07|1:04:19|1:26:23|3:03:19|
Murph_D|19:48|33:53|43:19|1:11:33|1:34:17|3:22:11|
Singer|18:39|31:47|38:55|1:06:12|1:27:33|3:14:11|
BeepBeep67|16:52|28:24|36:00|0:59:45|1:19:55|2:55:51|
Classic21|18:45|n/a|38:45|1:06:15|1:23:40|3:16:50|
hot buttered scones|19:17|n/a|40:37|1:04:46|1:26:37|3:09:13|
HelenAnne|20:08|33:52|43:24|n/a|n/a|n/a|
Testosterscone|16:15|26:35|34:10|56:54|1:14:48|2:43:03|
Squinn2912|n/a|n/a|37:54|n/a|1:23:12|2:58:13|
Healy1835|18:52|29:51|38:56|1:00:33|1:19:59|2:59:45|
OOnegative|18.25|n/a|38.46|64.19|1.26.11|3.15.10
Average_runner|19.38|33:00|42:07|73:20|1:39:26|3:41:30|
SlowTwitch|19:00|31:08|39:31|1:05:09|1:26:00|3:00:22|BetterLongDist
MediumTwitch|18:40|30:40|39:01|1:04:31|1:26:13|2:59:46|BetterMedDist
FastTwitch|18:22|30:16|38:34|1:03:57|1:25:45|2:59:36|BetterShortDist

All from 2011/2012
Now that I've emerged from a dark age do any new pbs that are not beating "old" pbs count as new age pbs or what? Hard to motivate oneself if looking back on times you did in a different life!

Plenty of life in you yet, be patient, can’t see any reason why you won’t beat those times.

TFBubendorfer

shotgunmcos wrote: »

Now that I've emerged from a dark age do any new pbs that are not beating "old" pbs count as new age pbs or what? Hard to motivate oneself if looking back on times you did in a different life!

Tell me about it!

I know guys who started collecting "M40 PBs" and then "M50 PBs" and so on, so that they would not have to compare themselves to a much faster younger version of themselves.

I can't bring myself to do that, it feels like cheating. But there came the point at some stage when I had to admit to myself that my last PB had been set several years ago and that I was rather unlikely to ever set a new one.

RayCun

shotgunmcos wrote: »

All from 2011/2012
Now that I've emerged from a dark age do any new pbs that are not beating "old" pbs count as new age pbs or what? Hard to motivate oneself if looking back on times you did in a different life!

yeah, but you have spent a few years splashing about and getting lost on hills. A bit of real training should see you beat all those times

Peterx

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

Tell me about it!

I know guys who started collecting "M40 PBs" and then "M50 PBs" and so on, so that they would not have to compare themselves to a much faster younger version of themselves.

I can't bring myself to do that, it feels like cheating. But there came the point at some stage when I had to admit to myself that my last PB had been set several years ago and that I was rather unlikely to ever set a new one.

It's an interesting one, I know that I now consciously race for the M40 prize in the IMRA runs as the actual overall win is usually just that little bit away from me. And by that I mean unless I am in the top 3 I don't really care* if I come 4th, 5th or 6th as long as the other M40 lad is behind me.

With that mindset it's only a small step to having M40 PB's and then in your late 40's even "this years" PB's as you eagerly await that 50th year to roll around..

*I do care but I will definitely try harder if a fellow ould lad passes

shotgunmcos

This is what I like about this Forum. You are never the only one. M40 PBs they are unless the are Real PBs Then I can double celebrate the fact that A) I got a real PB and

My 40 year old self beat my 30 year old self!

MonkstownHoop

Could someone add me to the table
5k 18.25
5 Mile 31.28
10k 39.36
10 Mile 1.14.57 (only raced the one)
Half 1.26.42
Full 3.12.18

ooter

All in the last 5 weeks,
HM 1:35:53
5k 20:00
10k 43:30
Marathon 3:27:10

robinph

Yay, tables... my favourite.

Name|5k|5m|10k|10m|HM|Mara|Note
McMillan|18:28|30:28|38:22|1:04:07|1:25:32|3:00:00|Ref Times
TbL |19:27|31:xx|39:30|1:04:xx|1:25:xx|3:05:xx|
FBOT|17:42|29:59|38:42|1:00:34|1:26:02|3:00:59|
AMK|17:28|28:53|36:09|1:01:40|1:23:53|2:58:01|
Tomwaits48|19:17|32:00|39:xx|1:05:45|1:28:xx|3:17:xx|
Duanington|17:35|29:17|36:36|1:01:42|1:23:22|3:03:xx|
MrMacPhisto|17:02|28:35|35:44|1:01:55|1:19:35|2:47:17|
snailsong|19:06|31:49|39:11|N/A|1:28:20|3:06:52|
rooneyjm|19:35|N/A|39:20|1:08:xx|1:29:37|3:23:xx|
davedanon|18:34|31:34|39:51|1:06:21|1:30:30|3:14:18|
Itziger|17:50|29:52|36:48|N/A|1:21:06|2:59:10|
Sandwell|17:24|28:57|37:10|0:59:29|1:22:xx|N/A|
Tomred1N |19:01|32:25|41:40|1:05:57|1:28:30|3:12:41|
Ainsyjnr |18:32|30:07|36:50|1:02:24|1:24:04|3:01:46|
Averagejoe123|17:47|30:26|38:41|1:04:45|1:27:xx|3:17:xx|
Kemboi|18:00|29:50|38:00|1:05:50|1:25:30|3:07:xx|
CR 7|17:45|30:30|37:21|1:04:50|1:23:25|5:04:xx|
Shotgunmcos|18:15|30:10|38:09|1:02:24|1:23:40|3:00:20
El Caballo|18:34|31:15|39:46|1:05:xx|1:26:26|3:15:29|
Bulmers74|18:54|31:46|39:33|1:06:00|1:26:27|3:08:36|
boydkev|18:55|32:10|41.12|1:05:55|1:28:20|3:31:35|
ger664|19:45|N/A|41:11|1:09:33|1:35:56|3:18:12|
Jahaco|19:22|31:08|39:07|1:04:19|1:26:23|3:03:19|
Murph_D|19:48|33:53|43:19|1:11:33|1:34:17|3:22:11|
Singer|18:39|31:47|38:55|1:06:12|1:27:33|3:14:11|
BeepBeep67|16:52|28:24|36:00|0:59:45|1:19:55|2:55:51|
Classic21|18:45|n/a|38:45|1:06:15|1:23:40|3:16:50|
hot buttered scones|19:17|n/a|40:37|1:04:46|1:26:37|3:09:13|
HelenAnne|20:08|33:52|43:24|n/a|n/a|n/a|
Testosterscone|16:15|26:35|34:10|0:56:54|1:14:48|2:43:03|
Squinn2912|n/a|n/a|37:54|n/a|1:23:12|2:58:13|
Healy1835|18:52|29:51|38:56|1:00:33|1:19:59|2:59:45|
OOnegative|18.25|n/a|38.46|64.19|1.26.11|3.15.10
Average_runner|19.38|33:00|42:07|73:20|1:39:26|3:41:30|
SlowTwitch|19:00|31:08|39:31|1:05:09|1:26:00|3:00:22|BetterLongDist
MediumTwitch|18:40|30:40|39:01|1:04:31|1:26:13|2:59:46|BetterMedDist
FastTwitch|18:22|30:16|38:34|1:03:57|1:25:45|2:59:36|BetterShortDist
robinph|17:11|27:56|35:13|0:59:48|1:19:11|2:49:44|

They are all from a few years ago now, and I'm dubious about the timing system used for the 10km. Not sure I can get near any of them at the moment as I just don't have the speed any more, the marathon I do plan on nibbling away a bit more of though if all goes to plan in April next year.