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EPH Ember

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I've had three people out to quote for a boiler upgrade and when I mention smart thermostats and that I am leaning towards the Hive 2, a couple of them have suggested that the EPH Ember was the best solution

Anyone have any words of wisdom

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KingCong

Do notifications work for anybody on the Ember Android app? I see there's a toggle for "User Notifications" in the app's settings but I never get any notifications. They'd be handy (for disabling boost after the wife boosts all zones, ignoring the schedules :P )

Skippy along

There you go

Skippy along

I got sorted too with my app... Just needed to be paired again with the wall panel

Skippy along

I have the instructions pm me your email or mobile i can what's app you no problem

micratoyota

I have EPH Ember Panel and the remote. Got no instructions with them from plumber. Where can I get "how to programme these" Heating is set to come on 6.30 in the morning. Far to early for OAP 8.30 or 9 would suit me better

Ziboo

Skippy along wrote: »

Ok thanks guys was going to start from scratch again but looks like it's a know fault at there end so I'll give them a call tomorrow
By the way does anyone find the setting up the 3 zone manual controller on the wall confusing, I'd be fairly tec savy but I'd find it hard to recommend the system to friends
Cheers

Yeah it's somewhat confusing, I dug out the instructions to check it all last night.

The service is up and running for me today, so you may need to check at your side.

Skippy along

Ok thanks guys was going to start from scratch again but looks like it's a know fault at there end so I'll give them a call tomorrow
By the way does anyone find the setting up the 3 zone manual controller on the wall confusing, I'd be fairly tec savy but I'd find it hard to recommend the system to friends
Cheers

Skippy along

Ok thanks guys was going to start from scratch again but looks like it's a know fault at there end so I'll give them a call tomorrow
Cheers

Ziboo

Their server was down last night. (First time I have encountered this issue).

I spent a long time checking at my side and re setup my gateway and thermostats in case it was at my side, then sent them a message on the website.
It was back working this morning and I received a reply to my query confirming that their server went down last night.

matrim

Skippy along wrote: »

Thanks did you reset anything or did it come back by itself?

It came back by itself

Skippy along

Thanks did you reset anything or did it come back by itself?

matrim

It was offline for me last night but it's working today

Skippy along

I control my zones while I'm out through their online phone app... Well i use to anyway.. Not being able to go online since Tuesday

dar_cool

To control your heating ? Working fine for me here

Skippy along

Anybody having problems connecting to EPH server seems to be down for me at the moment

Standard Toaster

micratoyota wrote: »

I am in the middle of changing my boiler and fitter recommended that i get the Gateway Eph. Ember and he is only charging me €150 which he says is the cost of it. Is this correct.???

Eurosales.ie had it for @ €91 +vat this time last year (I never bought in the end)

Pique

I paid 100 + 23% VAT a year ago from Heiton Buckley. Ring them tomorrow and ask for a stockist near you. Then ring the stockist and ask the price.

micratoyota

I am in the middle of changing my boiler and fitter recommended that i get the Gateway Eph. Ember and he is only charging me €150 which he says is the cost of it. Is this correct.???

matrim

john_doe. wrote: »

Thanks are you sticking with the EPH?
I could take in back Into Home assistant , I was setting up an oilpal today to monitor oil usage and was looking to see can that also be pulled into Home assistant.

I'm not pushed on advanced features , I think a lot of them are gimmicky enough and not convinced technology is quite strong enough yet.

Something with easy control via phone I think will do me for now.

I'll stick with it for now as I only got it installed a year ago and don't want to fork out for another system. As a basic system it is reliable and does the job. The main reason I would upgrade would be for integrated trvs

john_doe.

matrim wrote: »

I sent them a couple of questions about echo system stuff (e.g. TRVs) but didn't mention the library, mainly in case they decide to get upset and change it.

For TRVs they pretty much said it won't happen. I'd be surprised if they every got much more in their current system. It seems like they just got what is supported in hardware and made it software. Their hardware doesn't support multiple temps so it would have to be controlled by their external software so would only be for the limited number of customers with the gateway.

Plus, looking their code, it seems like some of the stuff is coming from an italian company, who outsource to a chinese company and the API is a bit of a mess. I wouldn't be hopeful of them taking adding many advanced features.

So, if you are happy with a basic system then go for it. But if you actually want more advanced features, then i'd say take a bit of time to get a better system.

Thanks are you sticking with the EPH?
I could take in back Into Home assistant , I was setting up an oilpal today to monitor oil usage and was looking to see can that also be pulled into Home assistant.

I'm not pushed on advanced features , I think a lot of them are gimmicky enough and not convinced technology is quite strong enough yet.

Something with easy control via phone I think will do me for now.

matrim

john_doe. wrote: »

Did you ever think about contacting them?
I'm going to get it installed soon as I've considered all the other options and going with EPH from a support/installer point view .
The Geofence I think is overkill - I don't need it.

What you have there overcomes the limitations of Ember for me.

Maybe they should hire you for some contract work :-)

I sent them a couple of questions about echo system stuff (e.g. TRVs) but didn't mention the library, mainly in case they decide to get upset and change it.

For TRVs they pretty much said it won't happen. I'd be surprised if they every got much more in their current system. It seems like they just got what is supported in hardware and made it software. Their hardware doesn't support multiple temps so it would have to be controlled by their external software so would only be for the limited number of customers with the gateway.

Plus, looking their code, it seems like some of the stuff is coming from an italian company, who outsource to a chinese company and the API is a bit of a mess. I wouldn't be hopeful of them taking adding many advanced features.

So, if you are happy with a basic system then go for it. But if you actually want more advanced features, then i'd say take a bit of time to get a better system.

john_doe.

matrim wrote: »

I traced their API and wrote a python library that can interact with it. I've added it to home assistant so that you can use that platform to monitor and manage the system. You can also hook home-assistant up to google home / alexa / IFTTT to get some control from those too.

https://www.home-assistant.io/components/climate.ephember/

This shows my heating for today

If you wanted to avoid home assistant you could use the python library directly to write a small program that changed temps based on a cron job.

Did you ever think about contacting them?
I'm going to get it installed soon as I've considered all the other options and going with EPH from a support/installer point view .
The Geofence I think is overkill - I don't need it.

What you have there overcomes the limitations of Ember for me.

Maybe they should hire you for some contract work :-)

Pique

Ooh. Interesting.

matrim

Pique wrote: »

Explain? I have it but would love variable temps and reporting. Smart TRVs are on the list too when a decent brand is reasonably priced (which I haven't seen yet).

I traced their API and wrote a python library that can interact with it. I've added it to home assistant so that you can use that platform to monitor and manage the system. You can also hook home-assistant up to google home / alexa / IFTTT to get some control from those too.

https://www.home-assistant.io/components/climate.ephember/

This shows my heating for today

If you wanted to avoid home assistant you could use the python library directly to write a small program that changed temps based on a cron job.

Pique

matrim wrote: »

Pique wrote: »

Totally agree with 3 of your points. Different temps across the different times of the day, smart TRVs and reporting.

The IFTTT or Google home / Alexa support doesn't concern me too much but lots of people have them (I don't).

The thing is, if they opened their API and made some small changes then 2 of the first 3 above (duff temps and reporting) could easily be added. Hell a coder user could do it easy enough with their cooperation.

Maybe they would be open to considering this approach.

If you have home assistant you can get some of them already.

Explain? I have it but would love variable temps and reporting. Smart TRVs are on the list too when a decent brand is reasonably priced (which I haven't seen yet).

Pique

matrim wrote: »

Pique wrote: »

Totally agree with 3 of your points. Different temps across the different times of the day, smart TRVs and reporting.

The IFTTT or Google home / Alexa support doesn't concern me too much but lots of people have them (I don't).

The thing is, if they opened their API and made some small changes then 2 of the first 3 above (duff temps and reporting) could easily be added. Hell a coder user could do it easy enough with their cooperation.

Maybe they would be open to considering this approach.

If you have home assistant you can get some of them already.

Explain? I have it but would love variable temps and reporting. Smart TRVs are on the list too when a decent brand is reasonably priced (which I haven't seen yet).

matrim

Pique wrote: »

Totally agree with 3 of your points. Different temps across the different times of the day, smart TRVs and reporting.

The IFTTT or Google home / Alexa support doesn't concern me too much but lots of people have them (I don't).

The thing is, if they opened their API and made some small changes then 2 of the first 3 above (duff temps and reporting) could easily be added. Hell a coder user could do it easy enough with their cooperation.

Maybe they would be open to considering this approach.

If you have home assistant you can get some of them already.

Which is useful if you already have the system and don't want to change. If you are looking for a new install I wouldn't let that be a decider

Pique

Totally agree with 3 of your points. Different temps across the different times of the day, smart TRVs and reporting.

The IFTTT or Google home / Alexa support doesn't concern me too much but lots of people have them (I don't).

The thing is, if they opened their API and made some small changes then 2 of the first 3 above (duff temps and reporting) could easily be added. Hell a coder user could do it easy enough with their cooperation.

Maybe they would be open to considering this approach.

s8n

KingCong wrote: »

I have EPH and wouldn't recommend it, see my post on this thread for some reasons why: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057912428

Thanks. Its pushed me towards nest (Alexa integration also a big requirement)

KingCong

s8n wrote: »

I'm having a new system installed and eager to know if users on here recommend this or nest

I have EPH and wouldn't recommend it, see my post on this thread for some reasons why: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057912428