Chewbacca wrote: » Rubbish. My reasoning does not need to be twisted or applied to another scenario and merely doing so undermines your argument and it's not actually an apt scenario. Explain to me why there is a housing crisis and how a 'vacant property tax' will fix it.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » There's a scarcity of the resource of fully built housing on the market. And in that context, wasting it, just like wasting water (another national resource which has recently gone through a period of scarcity) is socially irresponsible and something that the government has every legitimate right to take action against, just like it took action against wasting water during a water shortage. Again, your issue is either failing or refusing to accept that some of us see land as a national resource first and foremost, and as a private asset second. When there's a crisis, the first concern takes precedence over the second. Not everyone agrees with this, but many people are simply refusing to accept that it's a legitimate political belief at all, which is absurd since it was a legitimate political belief for most of Ireland's post-independence history.
Edgware wrote: » Not with students. They need to get a good clipping everynow and again. All full of social justice till they graduate and join P.W.C. or become Consultants hitting us for 200 for a five minute "consultation"
Captain Obvious wrote: » And if they don't know when that might be?
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Have form there Edge, look at Duffy, Lawlor, Finucane et al al. RTE All supping deeply from the taxpayers trough despite being ‘rebels’ in their suudent days. Well spotted and articulated Edge, time some of the nults posting in here recognized that
Yeah_Right wrote: » Not bad. There's quite a bit there I think is ok but I wouldn't want that for everyone. The list is good but should apply only to those who can't afford their own place. They apply for it and get means tested. If you can afford your own place and you choose to do it without support, you can live where you want. You did leave out working couples with no kids or dependents. Where would they fit in? In the case of working couples, which person's work gets priority when you are giving them a house? Also I don't think people who have more kids should get priority. Cap it at 3. If you have more, you don't go any further up the list. They should do the same for social welfare payments. When you say "distance to school" do you mean any school? As in "here's your house, your kids will have to change schools." Because I would be fine with that.
Brendan Bendar wrote: Well spotted and articulated Edge, time some of the nults posting in here recognized that
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » Seen them there in the RTÉ news. Champagne socialists, single mothers, Grey tracksuit scrotes and Margaret Cash the criminal traveller. Spare me, bunch of mooching attention seekers.
Hitman3000 wrote: » Tut tut Brendan I thought you were above name calling?
Yer Da sells Avon wrote: » A lot of hard-working people there too, all of whom just want somewhere affordable to live.
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » Didn’t see any of them. Any links or pics? I did see Margaret Cash the criminal there.
All Seeing Eye wrote: » Dangerous commie talk there. Whats next? Seizing the means of production with you being installed as a party official so that you get a bit more for yourself.
Edgware wrote: » And it must sicken them to see the likes of Cash bleeding the system
Yer Da sells Avon wrote: » You and your far-right ilk only see what you want to see.
hmmm wrote: » Some obstructing working people trying to go about their day, and trying to get home to their families. It's an unbelievably incompetent protest which is doing nothing except pissing people off.
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » I only seen the 6 o clock news sorry I was out earning money and contributing to society.
Yer Da sells Avon wrote: » I'd be shocked if that were true.
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » Why?
Yer Da sells Avon wrote: » He doth protest too much.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » Sure, because from 1930 all the way up until 1990, the Republic of Ireland was actually known as the Peoples' Democratic Republic of Ireland, and operated a totalitarian communist system :rolleyes: Do you folks actually understand any of the historical context here? You do realise that the tenements were privately owned, not state owned, right? And you do realise that Dublin Corporation (City Countil) forcefully acquired all of them by compulsory purchase, razed them to the ground, and built high density social housing where they used to stand, right? The ignorance of Irish history on display in this thread is absurd.
Beechwoodspark wrote: » Disgusting to see that criminal Margaret cash given air time on RTnews earlier
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » Again why?
Johnny Dogs wrote: » RTE giving criminals airtime? The whole country's gone to hell in a hand cart:pac:
Yer Da sells Avon wrote: » You overdid it with the 'contributing to society' bit.
All Seeing Eye wrote: » So they bought a few houses because they were in dangerous condition and people were living in them. That’s not the same as you are advocating Comrade.