IanVW wrote: » Paraic Fanning ratified as Waterford senior hurling manager with James Murray & Pa Kearney as selectors
Mastermcgrath wrote: » Best to luck to all concerned. New faces, a fresh start. Bring it on
PTH2009 wrote: » Success won't come instantly and prob been in 1B is the right place. A loss to Laois or Carlow will not be acceptable. Remember Derek's first year in charge was a disaster. Hurling is gone so dog eat dog atm esp the Munster championship and the championship structure/calender and this is the so called golden generation of hurlers in Waterford but there's also golden generations in other county's at this time The sad thing is some players will walk away as they prob don't feel the best management team is in place. It's fairly annoying knowing that Fanning and co are only 3rd choice and there was very good candidates approached but the CB made them turn away. We just have to get on with it and see where it takes us, hopefully up the steps of the Hogan
Mastermcgrath wrote: » PTH2009 wrote: » Success won't come instantly and prob been in 1B is the right place. A loss to Laois or Carlow will not be acceptable. Remember Derek's first year in charge was a disaster. Hurling is gone so dog eat dog atm esp the Munster championship and the championship structure/calender and this is the so called golden generation of hurlers in Waterford but there's also golden generations in other county's at this time The sad thing is some players will walk away as they prob don't feel the best management team is in place. It's fairly annoying knowing that Fanning and co are only 3rd choice and there was very good candidates approached but the CB made them turn away. We just have to get on with it and see where it takes us, hopefully up the steps of the Hogan Utter rubbish. How do you know the reasons Kenny and Ryan didn’t take the job. Did you ask them personally? As for players supposedly going to walk away because they don’t agree with the new management team, shame on them. Wearing the county jersey is a privelage not a right.
blueflame wrote: » So after months of speculation and Comedy shows it is official - The New Management have a tough job ahead of them but they have a serious panel to work with. Derek had his methods and that appears to have involved being very close (to certain players at least) and in some cases in my opinion too close, to be truly objective, but he also won an awful lot of loyalty in adopting this approach. New Management has to decide where or not to adopt or break this approach, either way being fraught with the possibility of getting it badly wrong. Nor sure if Paraic Fanning has the demeanor or temperament to deal with this transfer , especially from early reports but the best of luck to him. He has at this stage had plenty of experience of being around county panels, and i hope he has learned from past experiences such as his dealings with the Eoin Kelly situation , in fairness to him he was a lot younger at that time and was being greatly influenced by more Senior figures at the time. Derek spoke frequently about making memories, to my mind there is no greater memory for a Senior hurler than success in an All Ireland Final and players must believe that also - forget about holidays etc.., these things will come with success. I am really interested in his Selector panel, Pa Kearney being a very interesting choice. He should bring a very young dynamic to it, and I think also the fact that his promising career was cut short in such dramatic fashion could serve as an inspiration to this panel to "seize the moment" James Murray always comes across to me as a very grounded and intelligent individual and could just be the perfect foil for what appears to be Fanning's more abrasive character. Maybe those that know him better might have a different opinion They were not my first choice by a long-shot but now that they are in situ, I am intrigued with how things will develop and they have my full support. - Best of Luck to them
Xenophile wrote: » Dan Shanahan will be missed.
jimbobbubbly wrote: » A lot of players from the so called 'players committee' are extremely unhappy about the appointment and apparently 8/9 players talking about retirement/year out. I find that disgraceful to be honest. If Derek was still there they would all be mad to get back training. Mastermcgrath nail on the head it should be a privilege not a right.
Mastermcgrath wrote: » A year out? Shur they just had one.... gone out of the championship since mid June there should be no excuses. Barring Brick Walsh who has earned his retirement, it will be very poor taste if any of these players come out now and announce retirement in light of this appointment.
puzl wrote: » Yes I agree with hardbuck. If players choose to step down, for whatever reason, who are we to judge. The committment is absolutely immense and any given individual must be able to set their own terms for such an endeavour. Let us just hope that these are just rumours and not too many will choose to go that route, but if they do, then I for one will thank them for their service to our county and not say a bad word about any of them. I also don't think it is a privilege to play for Waterford. That is far too simplistic. These guys have to put so much on hold to reach the standards required. Personal lives, careers, opportunities to travel, missing out on all of the various aspects of a carefree young lad. All of these are put on hold to compete at the pinnacle of hurling. So it is a two way street. We are priviliged to have their service, as they no doubt feel privileged to wear the jersey
Edgware wrote: » I know players put a lot on hold but it is not a one way system. I am very familiar with a county player who has got an awful lot out of the game, success in competitions, travel to Dubai, U.S.A. Far East Australia etc as part of team holidays, All Stars, a media profile at local and national level which is financially rewarding. He deserves it for the work put in and would do it all again despite the commitment required and a few nasty injuries.
Xenophile wrote: » We always chose our best option.
Xenophile wrote: » Glad you put up this post. Nobody who thinks that they are making a sacrifice should be on the field. We always chose our best option.
Deise Gael wrote: » Xenophile wrote: » Glad you put up this post. Nobody who thinks that they are making a sacrifice should be on the field. We always chose our best option. So right! Imagine any hurler from Cork, Tipp, Kilkenny Galway etc trying to take over the team! For God's sake, it should be an honour to wear the Waterford jersey! If any of the former pets have an issue let them walk or else fight for their place which at least six of them never had to in the last five years. We all know the guys who are making the noise, are they Waterford guys or just McGrath guys? Hopefully now we'll have a management team who picks the best team! Good luck to the three of them. If they're straight that's all we want!
Motivator wrote: » Deise Gael wrote: » Xenophile wrote: » Glad you put up this post. Nobody who thinks that they are making a sacrifice should be on the field. We always chose our best option. So right! Imagine any hurler from Cork, Tipp, Kilkenny Galway etc trying to take over the team! For God's sake, it should be an honour to wear the Waterford jersey! If any of the former pets have an issue let them walk or else fight for their place which at least six of them never had to in the last five years. We all know the guys who are making the noise, are they Waterford guys or just McGrath guys? Hopefully now we'll have a management team who picks the best team! Good luck to the three of them. If they're straight that's all we want! I’m sorry but are you forgetting that Cork went on strike twice and effectively held their Co Board to ransom..twice
