jay0109 wrote: » Perhaps this is why Ireland is such a popular location for those coming here to 'study'http://www.thejournal.ie/student-scheme-4219231-Sep2018/ We have no immigration policy in this country except that of effectively an open border.
seamus wrote: » My understanding is that the Brazilians have a really good communications chain, very similar to the Irish and Italians in New York during the 1800s/1900s. When someone arrives fresh from Brazilia, they'll already have the name and contact details of someone who will then hook them up and introduce them the to the wider Brazilian community. Thus they seem to pop up in "clusters", with loads of them moving into a single area at the one time. Other nationalities who maybe aren't quite so far from home or highly-skilled workers, will move to Ireland without needing to connect to a community for assistance on the ground. So they won't "cluster" quite so much. Same reason Nigerians, Chinese and similar "far from home" ethnic groups appear in clusters.
irishguitarlad wrote: » Yeah Perú and Colombia as well by all accounts. On a side note I think South American women age pretty poorly (wealthy ones and actresses the exceptions) in comparison to European women.
Das Reich wrote: » Brazilian women are very ugly and most of them very americanized, no Brazilian man fancy on marry some of them. Those countries you mentioned around Brazil are even much worse, in Peru they are very short and fat, they look like under counter fridge, they have almost no mediterranean people there, people are amerindian. I lived few months in Peru and feel like a giant. After returning to Brazil I did find any woman beautiful.
imme wrote: » Ireland is remiss in setting up these schemes, they don't benefit anyone in Ireland other than providing slave labour, pizza delivery staff, rickshaw drivers. People don't go home, they stay in Ireland. At a time of housing pressures it is hard to believe that Ireland still has these schemes up and running. Who financed the supreme court case???
Das Reich wrote: » No I have a question for Irish for any other European. I am not saying immigration is good, I am even against it, but why they complain about south americans or chinese, most of them work and are not muslim, and at the same time they not only open the doors to gypsies and muslims but they go to their countries to bring them here. It sounds a paradox, I see the same in UK, they talk about Polish and yet they country is filled with people that have only one thing in mind, convert Europe to islam. As Polish people are white and catholic, then can be blamed without been called a racist, I did read a comment below about how Brazil is homophobic, really? In Brazil gay marriage was allowded in 2013 even before than Ireland. Why Irish, English and other Europeans, they feel free to bash Chinese, Eastern European and some other non muslim nationalities, but when it comes to talk about muslims they all get affraid? I would like to hear.
jace_da_face wrote: » Aren't they all in Brazil now?
Pixel Eater wrote: » I know a few Brazilians and they all seem to now have Italian citizenship and thus EU citizens and free to travel and live where they like within the Europe. If they can prove they have Italian ancestry they go to live in Italy for literally 3 or 4 months then are given Italian passports! I can see why the Italian government would do this, their population is aging and falling, but you'd think they would be a bit more stringent, maybe make them stay 2 or 3 years at least!
Ireland's immigration policies may seem a little lax but Italy's seem utterly ludicrous!
Das Reich wrote: » No. Some of my ancestrors moved to Brazil after the earthquake of 1908 in Reggio Calabria. Why Italy should refuse to give me citizenship if I have Italian dna? I am more Italian than any foreigner born in Italy, why they should have citizenship and me not? It was Brazil that helped to give home of all those Europeans, the minimum Europe should do is give them citizenship of they can prove to have European origin. And talking about my region, virtually everyone have at least an Italian great grand parent. You must be joking I know so many people that doesn't have any Irish ancestry and got Irish passport, many Brazilians with no English, they could barely answer "how are you". To get Irish passport you just need to born here or be here for few years.
Das Reich wrote: » No. Some of my ancestrors moved to Brazil after the earthquake of 1908 in Reggio Calabria. Why Italy should refuse to give me citizenship if I have Italian dna? I am more Italian than any foreigner born in Italy, why they should have citizenship and me not? It was Brazil that helped to give home of all those Europeans, the minimum Europe should do is give them citizenship of they can prove to have European origin. And talking about my region, virtually everyone have at least an Italian great grand parent.
Das Reich wrote: » You must be joking I know so many people that doesn't have any Irish ancestry and got Irish passport, many Brazilians with no English, they could barely answer "how are you". To get Irish passport you just need to born here or be here for few years.
Das Reich wrote: » No I have a question for Irish for any other European. I am not saying immigration is good, I am even against it.
Pixel Eater wrote: » Being born here doesn't give that person automatic right to citizenship. And you have to be resident here for at least 5 years to gain citizenship, a lot more that the few months Italy requires for some appliacants. Yeah so both are lax but Italy more so.
Das Reich wrote: » In Italy you don't need to leave few months, YOU HAVE to have ancestror from the country, then going on the churches to get the birth and baptism certificate of their ancestrors, send it to the council (comune) wait months and waste a lot of money, at least 2.000 €. How is that lax compared to Ireland where you doesn't need to have ancestry to get passport, I could get any time if I didn't had dual citizenship.
Pixel Eater wrote: » Rein it in there. I didn't say Italy shouldn't do it - I explicitly said I understood the reason for them doing it - it just seems ludicrous lax in giving out their passports, especially since many leave as soon as they get their citizenship thus not benefiting Italy in the long term. And Europe has many nations; you may argue Italy has an obligation to their diaspora but all of Europe doesn't.
No you couldn't, you would need to be resident here for at least five years.
Das Reich wrote: » Man, I got my passport even before leaving Brazil. I was lucky my parents already had it and was easy for me. These people you called "some applicants" have more right than anyone to have EU passport as we descent from european refugees and immigrants. You said Italy should force them to live 2 or 3 years at least, why?
Das Reich wrote: » Brazil got loads of immigrants from everywhere, even from USA (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederados)
ohnonotgmail wrote: » I dont know you think Italy is so special in this regard. There are many people with an irish passport who have never set foot in the country.
