IanVW wrote: » https://www.wlrfm.com/2018/09/04/planning-granted-for-walsh-park-development-in-waterford/ "Executive officer, Councillor John O’Leary says he believes this expansion will meet the needs for Munster Championship games in Waterford." He believes? Surely it either is or it isnt??
Deiseen wrote: » 25,000 to 30,000 would be ideal but this is what we have. Its a start and who knows, maybe in 5-10 years they can expand further.
deisedude wrote: » Deiseen wrote: » 25,000 to 30,000 would be ideal but this is what we have. Its a start and who knows, maybe in 5-10 years they can expand further. Pointless having a stadium that big that will be full once in a blue moon. Look at the fanbase Munster have and their stadium is only that size.
Deiseen wrote: » As someone said, this stadium will fit certain needs. It won't be near enough for a championship game against Tipp, Wexford, Kilkenny or Cork. You could probably add Limerick and Clare to that now that they are strong again.
deiseach wrote: » Deiseen wrote: » As someone said, this stadium will fit certain needs. It won't be near enough for a championship game against Tipp, Wexford, Kilkenny or Cork. You could probably add Limerick and Clare to that now that they are strong again. There was a crowd of 20,782 at Tipperary's home game against Clare this year, yet 15,500 won't be enough to accommodate all the fans they might bring to an away game in Waterford?
deisedude wrote: » Is it such a bad thing that bandwagoners can't get a ticket to a game every now and again?
Deiseen wrote: » Problem with Thurles is that everyone has to commute. With Walsh Park you have 50,000 Waterford people with easy access. Plus the novelty of having championship in Waterford should last a few years. Hard to say whether that makes it more likely to fill is hard to say but it's certainly more accessible than Semple. Don't forget the government is targeting massive growth in Waterford up to 2040. This stadium is fine now, will it be fine when we have a much bigger population?
914 wrote: » Deiseen wrote: » Problem with Thurles is that everyone has to commute. With Walsh Park you have 50,000 Waterford people with easy access. Plus the novelty of having championship in Waterford should last a few years. Hard to say whether that makes it more likely to fill is hard to say but it's certainly more accessible than Semple. Don't forget the government is targeting massive growth in Waterford up to 2040. This stadium is fine now, will it be fine when we have a much bigger population? Waterford city and county population is somewhere between 90k and 100k. Corks population is 500k and have yet to see PUC full. Limerick population is 200k and have yet to see the gaelic grounds full. Tipps population is 160k and not one of their home games was full this year. 20k at tipp v clare. Walsh park will be more than enough. 5k and 7k at Kilkenny and wexford in this years home league games, 2k at last year's county final. Get the diggers in and get it done.
killbillvol2 wrote: » People are underestimating the advantage of playing at home in a tight ground with the crowd close to the pitch. 15,000 in Walsh park for a championship game will create a great atmosphere and give us, for the first time in years, an actual home "advantage".
mountgomery burns wrote: » Will they dig up the pitch while they're at it?
914 wrote: » Waterford city and county population is somewhere between 90k and 100k. Corks population is 500k and have yet to see PUC full. Limerick population is 200k and have yet to see the gaelic grounds full. Tipps population is 160k and not one of their home games was full this year. 20k at tipp v clare. Walsh park will be more than enough. 5k and 7k at Kilkenny and wexford in this years home league games, 2k at last year's county final. Get the diggers in and get it done.
914 wrote: » I would like to think they would improve drainage etc...
thesaturdayman wrote: » Some misinformation there. Limerick full for game against Waterford, Cork full for game against Limerick. Thats this year alone. Ed Sheeran packed it out twice too.
DiscoStew wrote: » Limerick full for game against Waterford?? As in this year? Surely you are joking? There was roughly 20,000 at that game. Capacity being around 50,000!
thesaturdayman wrote: » 914 wrote: » I would like to think they would improve drainage etc... it is also the smallest pitch in the hurling championship for teams competing for liam mccarthy, not at all conducive to our hurling. we have the lowest win % in a home ground for all the teams competing for all Ireland for league and champ games going back to 1998 & also the lowest scoring average. Our best performances have come in Pairc ui Caoimh 60 odd % winning percentage, Nowlan park about the same & Thurles. They are numbers 1, 2 & 3 in pitch size in Ireland. Our worst ground is Limerick - 13% winning ratio. tightest pitch but not the smallest. Of course the county board know all of this information!!
Deiseen wrote: » Hasn't it been disproved that Walsh Park is not as tight as everyone thinks it is? The ground is definitely tight but the pitch isn't small.
tonc76 wrote: » Rough measurement on Google Maps gives 145m long x 80m wide. Not sure how that measures up against other grounds.
tonc76 wrote: » Deiseen wrote: » Hasn't it been disproved that Walsh Park is not as tight as everyone thinks it is? The ground is definitely tight but the pitch isn't small. Rough measurement on Google Maps gives 145m long x 80m wide. Not sure how that measures up against other grounds.
914 wrote: » thesaturdayman wrote: » Some misinformation there. Limerick full for game against Waterford, Cork full for game against Limerick. Thats this year alone. Ed Sheeran packed it out twice too. Attendance for limerick v waterford 23,194 (gaelic grounds capacity just shy of 50k) Attendance for cork v limerick 34,607 (PUC capacity (45000) Far from full in both your suggestions. Clares population is similar to waterfords a bit more 120k and they couldn't fill cusack for their game against us 13k or so attended. Think that shows walsh will be more than capable
thesaturdayman wrote: » it is also the smallest pitch in the hurling championship for teams competing for liam mccarthy, not at all conducive to our hurling. we have the lowest win % in a home ground for all the teams competing for all Ireland for league and champ games going back to 1998 & also the lowest scoring average. Our best performances have come in Pairc ui Caoimh 60 odd % winning percentage, Nowlan park about the same & Thurles. They are numbers 1, 2 & 3 in pitch size in Ireland. Our worst ground is Limerick - 13% winning ratio. tightest pitch but not the smallest. Of course the county board know all of this information!!
