ELM327 wrote: » What seats are left for next year? Toro rosso, cant see him landing there either Anywhere else? Can't believe the likes of stroll, sirotkin, etc are in F1 for next year but someone like Ocon is potentially out.
vectra wrote: » Jordan 199 wrote: » If Vettel wants to win the championship, I don't think he can keep on making mistakes like he did today. I think at this point he is going to need the Gods behind him. He is literally throwing it away, I think Ferrari backed the wrong driver this season with the car they have.
Jordan 199 wrote: » If Vettel wants to win the championship, I don't think he can keep on making mistakes like he did today.
Prisoner 6753 wrote: » Renault have protested the Haas car. Desperation on their behalf?
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Seems legit. Haas has been disqualified and are appealing. The FIA clarified a rule about the floor and expected fall teams to comply in monza. Haas emailed the FIA to say they are at the mercy of suppliers and will have the correct floor for Singapore. The FIA didn’t respond to the email so haas assumed they agreed. But FIA say they didn’t get to the email so they can’t have agreed. Hard to tell how it will work out.
GarIT wrote: » I wonder if the floor has to be a particular material, would covering the slots they weren't allowed have with duct tape have been enough?
Prisoner 6753 wrote: » Yes Monaco was the big one in 2012. 43 when he finally packed up. Hamilton was signed before Schumacher made the decision to finally quit, which gives me the impression he was pushed out. He retired too soon in 2006. Kimi Raikkonen is 39 next month.
LollipopJimmy wrote: » Stoffell looked a real prospect in GP2, I had him earmarked as a future contender. That dog of a McLaren can't have helped either and with Alonso going chances are it'll be a race winning car next year - isnt that the usual course of events
AMKC wrote: » What have they been disqualified from? The rest of the season which would surly not look good for any team thinking of entering F1 in the future or just the the race gone or coming up. No Haas at Singapore would be a pity. Think Haas could do well there.
AMKC wrote: » I agree about Schumaher retiring too soon. If he had of stayed another year or even a few more he surly would have won the WDC in 2007 and maybe the next year too.
AMKC wrote: » El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Seems legit. Haas has been disqualified and are appealing. The FIA clarified a rule about the floor and expected fall teams to comply in monza. Haas emailed the FIA to say they are at the mercy of suppliers and will have the correct floor for Singapore. The FIA didn’t respond to the email so haas assumed they agreed. But FIA say they didn’t get to the email so they can’t have agreed. Hard to tell how it will work out. What have they been disqualified from? The rest of the season which would surly not look good for any team thinking of entering F1 in the future or just the the race gone or coming up. No Haas at Singapore would be a pity. Think Haas could do well there.
skipper_G wrote: » No it was the dimensions of the floor's leading edge, not the material used.
GarIT wrote: » What I meant was their HAAS' defence was that they had to use an illegal floor as they couldn't have a legal floor made in time. I was wondering whether they could have just broken any offending bits off and patched over the holes with duct tape to make it legal. HAAS said they couldn't make a new floor, I'm saying they could have, maybe just not with carbon fiber.
skipper_G wrote: » You're suggesting they could have made the floor legal by breaking bits off and patching up the gaps with gaffer tape? I can't see how that would be a realistic option in any scenario, the floor is too critical for how the airflow channels around the rear of the car. It needs to be stable to work effectively
GarIT wrote: » I'm not saying they could, I'm raising the question. What they did obviously didn't work because they got DQ'ed. My thoughts would be that a jerry rigged floor might have been a better choice than an illegal one.
Prisoner 6753 wrote: » GarIT wrote: » I know but they should have seen that coming. They've been around long enough to see that many times before. They did it after Kimi's stop as well for whatever reason. Time that practice was outlawed across the board.
GarIT wrote: » I know but they should have seen that coming. They've been around long enough to see that many times before.
kopite386 wrote: » Do any of you think that Antonio Giovannzi will get a racing seat this year. Obviously at this stage it isn't looking likely unless LeClerc moves and he gets that seat as a junior Ferrari member.
Prisoner 6753 wrote: I'm really hoping Kimi hold onto his seat, he has really upped his game this year, yes not as good as he once was but he is a solid number 2, I have visions of Leclerc doing a Ricciardo on Vettel.
chicorytip wrote: » The reasons why he needs to be replaced were blatantly evident yesterday. Lack of speed overall and lack of energy in the latter stages of races. He was unable to open up more than a one second lead over Hamilton in the earlier stages and should have quickly overtaken Bottas in the latter stages and then driven on to victory. He is no longer capable of winning races as opposed to finishing second or third. Even Bottas chips in with the odd victory as do the Red Bull duo. If Seb has an off day his colleague needs to be of comparable standard to maximise the competitiveness of the team. In fairness to Raikkonen not many drivers on the grid seem to have this level of capability. Alonso, certainly, but he's leaving. Verstappen, certainly. Ricciardo, possibly. Hamilton, obviously. Leclerc would be a mistake. He's too inexperienced. Grosjean would be the best available choice.
skipper_G wrote: Grosjean in a Ferrari would be a step backwards from Kimi, he's one of the most frustratingly inconsistent drivers on the grid. You can get barely get away with that in a Haas but no chance in a Ferrari. It's the single biggest criticism many people have of Kimi, you're suggesting to replace like for like
chicorytip wrote: » He has the requisite pace,skill and experience and has scored impressive points tallies over the years with uncompetitive teams. Put him in a top car and see how he goes.
