Graces7 wrote: » Excuse the expression but all this is an education to me. I was in Mr Price this last week and many kids with parents feverishly working through a long list of stationery requirements. I have no idea if this still applies, but in the UK we got all our books and stationery provided free.
Wanderer78 wrote: » I'd have to disagree, these items were not provided for free, you paid for them via taxation, but these were heavily subsidised, but apparently the approach we have now is better for us
Mountainsandh wrote: » In my son's school there is a book rental scheme, so once you have paid that, you don't have to buy the books, but you do have to buy stationary. It's when things pop up that are needed during the year that teachers tend to supply, because the parents have done their bit at the start of the year, so if there is a need for something around Christmas time, or towards the end of the school year when revisions are approaching, they would be reluctant or might not be able to afford it. Teachers are constantly being trained in using new methodologies as well, and these are often resource intensive : you might need lollipop sticks, folders, coloured paper, markers, glue, etc... etc... Of course some will be available through the school, but it's often faster and safer to get your own, that way it doesn't get swiped by someone else before the day you need it.
byhookorbycrook wrote: » screamer wrote: » My biggest problem with back to school costs are the exhorbitant price of books, a monopoly of a few companies hammering us with stupid prices for books that can't even be passed on because next year teacher will want different books..... There should be no need for this, teachers should be able to write books for the dept of education that can then be printed en masse for much more reasonable prices. Same books and curriculum throughout the country and do away with the BS of a back breaking booklist a mile long :D:D:D Teachers DO write the texts in many cases, but the DES won't pay.
screamer wrote: » My biggest problem with back to school costs are the exhorbitant price of books, a monopoly of a few companies hammering us with stupid prices for books that can't even be passed on because next year teacher will want different books..... There should be no need for this, teachers should be able to write books for the dept of education that can then be printed en masse for much more reasonable prices. Same books and curriculum throughout the country and do away with the BS of a back breaking booklist a mile long
Sleepy wrote: » I also have a huge problem with the access the Catholic Church are given to children through our current set up. Religion has no place in Education, blind faith is, imo, the exact antithesis of meaningful education and a society's tolerance for religion shouldn't extend to wasting our children's time teaching them about the nonsesnse the various faiths believe in.
James Bond Junior wrote: » Nurses don't buy syringes, Gardai dont put diesel in the patrol cars etc so why is it OK for teachers to buy resources? It's not but many teachers have a sense of care and duty to deliver lessons above and beyond for the benefit of their pupils.
wrote: Swimming lessons are on the primary curriculum (Aquatics), teachers can't teach kids to swim in puddles in the yard so additional money is needed to facilitate that. A familarization of facts was needed here I feel.
screamer wrote: » Course they do....they write them for the greedy book publishers.... (For a nice fee I'd bet). What I am saying is that these books should be written for and published by the education department and done at a more nominal cost. With every child in every year having the same books the price would dramatically decrease.
Minderbinder wrote: » Why is it an allegation against teachers? I would have thought this kind of donation goes from parents to school administrators. It’s hardly going directly into the hands of teachers is it?
AndrewJRenko wrote: » There is a problem here in that those who make decisions about choosing books are not the ones paying the bill at the end of the day. Teachers need to pay more attention to cost, and indeed weight of books when making those choices. So just to be clear, you're convinced that a lot of school secretaries are ripping off the cash for their own benefit, and principals, boards and parents just haven't noticed?
harr wrote: » .... Since then I will always ask for a receipt.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » There is a problem here in that those who make decisions about choosing books are not the ones paying the bill at the end of the day.
freshpopcorn wrote: » In secondary school we had a crested jumper and it did look neater everybody wearing the same jumper to be fair.
AndrewJRenko wrote: » screamer wrote: » Course they do....they write them for the greedy book publishers.... (For a nice fee I'd bet). What I am saying is that these books should be written for and published by the education department and done at a more nominal cost. With every child in every year having the same books the price would dramatically decrease. There is a problem here in that those who make decisions about choosing books are not the ones paying the bill at the end of the day. Teachers need to pay more attention to cost, and indeed weight of books when making those choices. Minderbinder wrote: » Why is it an allegation against teachers? I would have thought this kind of donation goes from parents to school administrators. It’s hardly going directly into the hands of teachers is it? So just to be clear, you're convinced that a lot of school secretaries are ripping off the cash for their own benefit, and principals, boards and parents just haven't noticed?
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » Ve must crush individuality! CRUSH!!! I think uniforms and single-sex schooling are both completely mental.
Andy From Sligo wrote: » smart uniforms i think a necessity - following the schools colours , but hey if they bloody come from penneys or dunnes what is the harm like!
freshpopcorn wrote: » I was mixed on it to be honest. It was fine nothing to write home about.
Momento Mori wrote: » Should be mandatory or nothing.
Macy0161 wrote: » I've texted this in to various radio discussions, and the principals organisations see this as justifiable, even though the threat is the child sits out/ doesn't get the work if they aren't paid.
freshpopcorn wrote: » What would you do if you introduced a school uniform with a plain black jumper. Then kids started showing up in every type of black jumper with weird logos(which may not all match) and then the kids who'd want designer jumpers and laugh at the kids in own brand jumpers.
Andy From Sligo wrote: » when i was growing up in high school (it would be called secondary school here) kids had to have a maroon jumper in my school .. you could buy that jumper from loads of different shops even shops equivalent to dunnes and penneys (we didnt have dunnes , I think it was St. Michael jumpers at M&S - and there was no store such as primark back then) - I think my mum bought the maroon jumpers from our Tesco's in the shopping centre there, upstairs they had clothes - then the school supplied the crests and I am pretty sure they must have been iron on crests because I remember my mum ironing on my crest on my school jumper. But they could be stitched/sewn on too. so you shopped around for your maroon jumper from wherever you wanted (posh people went to M&S and debenhams and poor people went to Tesco or other places) and stitch or sew on your school crest/logo onto the jumper - it seemed to work at the time .
Avatar MIA wrote: » Off topic, but you know when people mention school being the best years of your life, they're referring to mixed schools
Andy From Sligo wrote: » i'll show you mine if you show me yours, kiss chase .....
Avatar MIA wrote: » If the school's funding goes on heating and maintenance should the school not provide arts and crafts and photocopying (which probably saves on school book costs), should all students miss out? Or, as some here seem to think, should some parents pay for other kids as well? The, 'oh, the government should pay for it' brigade, are only using that as an excuse, knowing damn well the government wont do it.
Avatar MIA wrote: » ......The, 'oh, the government should pay for it' brigade, are only using that as an excuse, knowing damn well the government wont do it.
