nav[aria-label="Primary Navigation"] { padding: 0; & ul { list-style: none; width: 100%; display: flex; flex-direction: row; justify-content: start; align-items: start; gap: 30px; padding: 0; & li { margin: 0; } & ul li { list-style: none; } } }

Child Item

Should we protest against the pope's visit?

work

I believe a huge protest against the popes visit is required to show the government and church they are no longer welcome or wanted in our society. What do you think? There are many stakeholders that should protest their removal from any influence in our society. Some that come to mind are:
1) Anyone not supportive of misogyny
2) Anyone that doesn't believe in school indoctrination of children in a massive lie.
3) Anyone concerned about abusers in positions allowing abuse
4) Anyone with the most basic scientific education.
5) Anyone that doesn't support cults
6) Anyone that believes LGBT people should be treated fairly in society.
7) Anyone that believes women should have ANY control of their bodies.
8) Anyone that is not seen as equal in the church namely women children and men.

There are many other areas but I realised I have covered everyone. As such let's all go to the Phoenix park to let the Vatican know they are not welcome.
Are there any peaceful groups planning to protest?

Find more posts tagged with

Quick Links

Comments

Seth Brundle

Water John wrote: »

When you look back 40 years at the 2 clerics doing the warm up act in Galway. They were in the halfpenny place compared these two who have, cried off this time. Their hypocracy at having moved predator priests around for years.

But thinking the difference in how the RCC treated Casey against the paedos and their protectors. Casey was banished for being with a woman and fathering a child. Many of those who abused or protected the abusers were promoted.

Water John

When you look back 40 years at the 2 clerics doing the warm up act in Galway. They were in the halfpenny place compared these two who have, cried off this time. Their hypocracy at having moved predator priests around for years.

Seth Brundle

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Colm O'Gorman tweets

That's unreal!

One reply mentions businesses who contributed towards the funding of this nonsense. Does anyone know the names of these businesses?

eviltwin

Robert ninja wrote: »

I don't know about protest... as in protesting in attempt to kick him out of the country? That's messed up.

A 'demonstration' might be a bit better. Demonstrating opposition to the catholic church to combat the mainstream media's representation that every Irish person is thrilled and that the visit is generally a good thing...or to highlight any of its countless crimes and unethical behaviour. If there's a peaceful gathering like that I might join in because I will actually be in Dublin. Might bow out if it becomes too rowdy or overrun by blue hairs.

If you are going to be in Dublin anyway you might consider coming along to the Garden of Rememberance from 3pm to the gathering there. It's not a protest. It's location is the clue, we will be gathering as survivors and supporters of survivors to remember the victims past and present.

It will be peaceful and family friendly.

Hotblack Desiato

Wuerl has now, in good catholic fashion, pulled out...

Cardinal in Pennsylvania withdraws from World Meeting of Families in Dublin

A Cardinal who was heavily criticised for his handling of child sexual abuse allegations in the Pennsylvania grand jury report has withdrawn from a scheduled appearance at the World Meeting of Families in Dublin next week, it has been confirmed.

Cardinal Donald Wuerl, the Archbishop of Washington, was due to give the keynote address, entitled “The Welfare of the Family is Decisive for the Future of the World,” in the RDS at 2.30pm next Wednesday.

No reason has been provided for the decision.

Cardinal Wuerl was bishop of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, from 1988 to 2006. The report of the grand jury, which was published on Tuesday, found “wholesale institutional failure that endangered the welfare of children” in Pittsburgh.

The report faults Cardinal Donald Wuerl, a former bishop of Pittsburgh and now Archbishop of Washington, for what it said was his role in the concealment of sex abuse.

Water John

There is such a option available at the Garden of Remembrance, which I expect will be very dignified.
It is beyond time the RCC takes reponsibility, at all levels, for the grave harm done.

Hotblack Desiato

Edgware wrote: »

If you wanted to go you'd find a way. Easier to sit on your arse and whinge on line

We are going. If we have to f**king walk we're going.

Robert ninja

I don't know about protest... as in protesting in attempt to kick him out of the country? That's messed up.

A 'demonstration' might be a bit better. Demonstrating opposition to the catholic church to combat the mainstream media's representation that every Irish person is thrilled and that the visit is generally a good thing...or to highlight any of its countless crimes and unethical behaviour. If there's a peaceful gathering like that I might join in because I will actually be in Dublin. Might bow out if it becomes too rowdy or overrun by blue hairs.

Water John

Another key speaker crying off. This will be relying on the B Team at this stage.
Taoiseach seems to be indicating the Pope will/should address the issue publicly.

Andy From Sligo

keith_sixteen wrote: »

Everyone is well aware of that Andy. Particularly given your well documented efforts to pay zero euro for a god damn cup of coffee.

nice to see i will never ever be able to shake that off ....

Hitman3000

Sal Butamol wrote:

Mary McAleese has been on full whinge mode anyway.

Is she wrong? Why not address the message instead of attacking the messenger.

Sycamore Tree

Sal Butamol wrote: »

Mary McAleese has been on full whinge mode anyway.

Wish she'd ever shut the fcuk up.

I think you'd prefer we were all gagged and wearing blinkers when it comes to the Roman church.

Sycamore Tree

Odhinn wrote: »

Sycamore Tree wrote: »

The pope visit already seems a PR disaster for the Roman organisation. Between the Chile and Pennsylvania abuse stories we are getting constant reminders of how twisted the organisation continues to be. Is it me or have the Irish media really gone after the Vatican this week? Excellent interview with Gabriel Byrne on Newstalk today where he told a few home truths about membership of the Roman Catholic organisation.

What was the show?

Second Captains.

batgoat

Sal Butamol wrote: »

Mary McAleese has been on full whinge mode anyway.

Wish she'd ever shut the fcuk up.

You do realise yet another large cover up has been uncovered? That's been a significant part of what she's been discussing. That's not whinging, it's ongoing global coverups of abuse by the church.

Leroy42

Sal Butamol wrote: »

Mary McAleese has been on full whinge mode anyway.

Wish she'd ever shut the fcuk up.

What is she whinging about?

Pope defending church ahead of abuse victims, says McAleese
Former president describes reading reports from Pennsylvania as ‘like a horror show’

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/pope-defending-church-ahead-of-abuse-victims-says-mcaleese-1.3600827

Are you suggesting that people simply continue to make nicey nicey with the CC despite the CC still following exactly the same modus operandi they have always followed in terms of how they 'deal' with sexual abuse.

THe AG of PA wrote to the Pope months ago about the case, heard nothing back. The grand jury reported last week, nothing of note from the CC.

She is right, the CC has always sought to protect itself and its priests before any concern for the victims.

keith_sixteen

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

maths were never my strong subject ..

Everyone is well aware of that Andy. Particularly given your well documented efforts to pay zero euro for a god damn cup of coffee.

Sal Butamol

Mary McAleese has been on full whinge mode anyway.

Wish she'd ever shut the fcuk up.

Edgware

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

We're hoping to go but our part of Dublin will be on something approaching lockdown and public transport will be full of the bewildered.

If you wanted to go you'd find a way. Easier to sit on your arse and whinge on line

Odhinn

Sycamore Tree wrote: »

The pope visit already seems a PR disaster for the Roman organisation. Between the Chile and Pennsylvania abuse stories we are getting constant reminders of how twisted the organisation continues to be. Is it me or have the Irish media really gone after the Vatican this week? Excellent interview with Gabriel Byrne on Newstalk today where he told a few home truths about membership of the Roman Catholic organisation.

What was the show?

Andy From Sligo

Hitman3000 wrote: »

All proceeds given to the church's victims as part of the millions they owe.

maths were never my strong subject .. is that after the 32mil that its costing the state?

Sycamore Tree

The pope visit already seems a PR disaster for the Roman organisation. Between the Chile and Pennsylvania abuse stories we are getting constant reminders of how twisted the organisation continues to be. Is it me or have the Irish media really gone after the Vatican this week? Excellent interview with Gabriel Byrne on Newstalk today where he told a few home truths about membership of the Roman Catholic organisation.

Seth Brundle

Hitman3000 wrote: »

All proceeds given to the church's victims as part of the millions they owe.

Oh dear. Do you still believe that they care about the victims?
How innocent of you.

Seth Brundle

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

80euro a ticket should suffice

Given the RCC's love for all things relating to money, this was presumably considered in depth.

Hitman3000

Andy From Sligo wrote:

the pope coming to Ireland should be treated as a pop/rock concert - charge everyone who 'wants to get in an see him/hear him' a fee on ticketmaster LOL - 80euro a ticket should suffice

All proceeds given to the church's victims as part of the millions they owe.

Andy From Sligo

the pope coming to Ireland should be treated as a pop/rock concert - charge everyone who 'wants to get in an see him/hear him' a fee on ticketmaster LOL

- 80euro a ticket should suffice

work

professore wrote: »

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

They have a grip insofar as they are legally allowed to discriminate with regards to entry to State-funded primary schools - THAT needs to change - but again, this is not what the OP or anyone else wants to protest. If it was, they would have portested a long time ago.

That's the governments fault.

Yes that is the governments fault but it is changing slowly. I am not sure why princess says nobody wants to protest this of course they do, there is now however an opportunity (pope here for first time in 40 years) to let people know there are lots of people that are piss@d off at the church for many reasons as per the OP.
separation of church and state is essential and if not in the OP apologies.

Hotblack Desiato

Water John wrote: »

I think that Rememberance gathering is being organised by Colm O'Gorman in a personal capacity. Would go if I was in Dublin. My heart goes out to the survivors and those who didn't survive.

We're hoping to go but our part of Dublin will be on something approaching lockdown and public transport will be full of the bewildered.

[Deleted User]

Seth Brundle wrote: »

I heard a rumour that Frankie will be making it himself from just plain tap water!

I heard Frankie Goes to Hollywood.

:pac:

Water John

I think that Rememberance gathering is being organised by Colm O'Gorman in a personal capacity. Would go if I was in Dublin. My heart goes out to the survivors and those who didn't survive.

Seth Brundle

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Heard the white wiz is bringing the wine.

I heard a rumour that Frankie will be making it himself from just plain tap water!