The government has published a new map outlining in detail 700,000 rural homes and businesses which will be connected to state-subsidised broadband of at least 30 megabits per second (Mbs) from 2016.
fritzelly wrote: » Bit OT but you will probably know Marlow - who runs/manages the fibre link between the US and Ireland. Does that directly benefit Ireland for capacity
ED E wrote: » fritzelly wrote: » Bit OT but you will probably know Marlow - who runs/manages the fibre link between the US and Ireland. Does that directly benefit Ireland for capacity Voilahttps://www.submarinecablemap.com/
Johnboy1951 wrote: » I was not aware of the cable from Galway to Spain until I saw that map today.
listermint wrote: » Sure what do we need all this undersea fibre for. Isn't wireless the future we can wireless across the oceans and stuff
fritzelly wrote: » Don't be pedantic now, did you not hear abouthttps://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starlink-internet-testing-high-performance-govt-aircraft/
listermint wrote: Isn't wireless the future we can wireless across the oceans and stuff
listermint wrote: » Fritz . Even the head of the FCC in the US has stated on numerous times that wireless is not a substitute for fibre.https://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/fcc-chairman-mobile-broadband-service-not-a-full-substitute-for-fixed-service My I remind you he worked for Verizon who are at the fore front of 5g rollout in the us. So he has some background of it. So over to you Fritz.
Marlow wrote: » The issue there is the pricing. FTTH pricing is still prohibitive to many, that would want it. Also, OpenEIRs approach of leaving the home owner to his own devices with getting the ducting to the road is another factor here. SIRO build all the way to the ESB meter box. It's understandable, that OpenEIR won't cover that last stretch. It would make their build even more costly. Then again, their connection pricing is way too high in the first place. What they should have done, is give home owners a list of contractors, they can ring to get their ducting etc. sorted out by. At the moment, the estimated overall takeup is 20% on OpenEIR at the most. 25% on SIRO. So SIROs approach brings them much nearer the the target of 30%. Holiday homes, dormant homes etc. is neither here nor there. There's plenty of people, who install FTTH in holiday homes, if available. All a matter of cost. /M
Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: » Where are you getting a 25% take-up figure on SIRO? According to this it's closer to 14%.https://siro.ie/siro-delivers-1-gigabit-connectivity-to-park-developments-clay-farm/
KOR101 wrote: » While the cost of rolling out fibre-optic cable is relatively easy to calculate, the big imponderable and the one that seems to be spooking potential bidders is the likely take-up of the new technology once the infrastructure is in place. Despite the very public clamour for better broadband services, when companies such as Eir and Siro have actually built out into the countryside, the take-up hasn’t been as great as might have been expected. In some cases only 10 per cent of households passed by the new fibre technologies have actually opted to take up contracts with providers. Typically, telcos target a 30 per cent take-up after 24 months, but there’s no guarantee. However, many of the 540,000 houses covered by the Government’s plan may be vacant or derelict or holiday homes, while many older residents may have little interest in paying for high-speed broadband. All of which makes predicting future revenue from the project difficult.https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:e89xtibLisQJ:https://www.irishtimes.com/business/state-paying-for-misconceived-rural-broadband-process-1.3599721+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie&client=firefox-b
listermint wrote: » They passed the mother in law's house. The broke her own 3.5mb dw line . She's lost that crappy connection to an even crappier 1.5 and calling the technical support line to ask why her internet wasn't working was the only way she found out it was in the area. She personally wouldn't mind paying for the decent connection but to say they are informing people isn't necessarily true at all . If people are not fore told about it and they don't actually understand what benefit it is then why would the average Joe be interested. 10 percent. Uptake is their own fault. Everyone has mobile phones they understand the need Eir needs to do a job educating and informing blaming the customer means you don't understand your business or market. 101
Using GPON technology, nbn was able to deliver 1Gbit/s speeds with FTTP at an average cost AUS$4,400, but individual connections can be far higher with one property costing $91,000 to connect.
Johnboy1951 wrote: » I agree with this ....... as they are going live in an area how difficult would it be to put up posters or such to inform communities about its availability? Its not as if they don't have the poles to hold the posters
westyIrl wrote: » Just came across the following (oldish) article in relation to Australia's version of the NBP (the NBN). Just putting it here for the few that may find it interesting reading. https://www.telecomtv.com/content/broadband/the-90-000-question-why-australia-is-ditching-fttp-in-favour-of-fttc-16104/ Makes we wonder what will some locations in Ireland cost. Roll on September 16th.....
Marlow wrote: » Internal order numbers tell a different tale. Looks like, that the press release is actually an understatement, opposed to OpenEIR usually inflating their figures. Very much in line with SIROs general attitude though. Uptake is a lot higher. Also, it has spiraled out of proportions since the Gigabit promotion was started. It now takes 3-4 weeks to get a connection with SIRO, that isn't in-situ, opposed to 3-4 days before hand. So the figures in that press release could be lacking a lot of the very recent installed customer base. /M
Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: » You can hardly see order numbers for other operators though?
Johnboy1951 wrote: » So eir can put advertising on their cabinets but not on poles? Not even a plaque, permanently affixed to a pole, stating it carries fibre? Anything that can be seen in an area regardless the time one might be present or passing, is probably the most efficient means of informing people.
Marlow wrote: » Dunno about a plaque. But people ignore that the same as they ignore that yellow warning plaque about high voltage on ESB poles. How would you deem that in any way effective ? People don't even take notice of stop signs. Or handicap parking signs. Once it's protrudes from the pole, it goes under the same law as political election advertising. The cabinets however have a large nice surface. Still not very effective, but a lot better than a small plaque on a pole. /M
Johnboy1951 wrote: » It would not cost much, nor take much extra time, to add a plaque to a pole as the fibre is fitting is completed.
You're talking rural areas.
