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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

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Drumpot

Mitch Connor wrote: »

No

Pogba said he didn't change his hair so that others wouldn't be able to use it against him - so they, not him, would concentrate on his football.

So Why should it matter what “they say” if it doesnt have any impact on team or player? Who benefits from Pogba not doing this haircut marketing crap?

Either He does and/or by extension the French team does cause the Pogba circus is that bit less a distraction.

If there is no positive benefits to his team or himself, why bother?

He did it for a reason that he felt was positive for France but won’t do it for united. He made it a point that suggested it’s an unwelcome distraction.

Mitch Connor

Drumpot wrote: »

How does that benefit us if he won’t put in the same performances for united?

I don’t care what he did for Juventus or does for France if he won’t put in the same efforts for united.

Funny that Pogba said he didn’t change his haircut to stop distractions and focused on the job at hand for France..... Jose was quoted as saying that his France performances showed he can play brilliant when he has no distractions and focuses on what his team needs.

Let me guess, he needs to play alongside Kante to perform? Or Deshamps makes him feel more loved? Or he played in a slightly different role to the one people were saying he couldn’t do at united?

Eventually bangkok you have to see that Pogbas issues at united and failure to perform at the levels we saw at the WC are not all completely down to external factors beyond Pogbas control. So then what good is it united having a world class player who’s not arsed making it work and will only step it who
When it suits him.

No

Pogba said he didn't change his hair so that others wouldn't be able to use it against him - so they, not him, would concentrate on his football.

bangkok

Drumpot wrote: »

You blame a manager for a player not giving a f**k? Seriously?

i blame the manager for us playing **** football as a team, not just pogba

Drumpot

bangkok wrote: »

i blame jose.

did you see that "performance" yesterday v Bayern? nothing short of disgraceful. wouldnt be a bit surprised to see leicester turn up to old trafford and beat utd

You blame a manager for a player not giving a f**k? Seriously?

dor83

bangkok wrote: »

he is still better than pjanic even when he is average

No he's not, Pjanic is a fantastic player who is in the top tier for his position and while Pogba has the potential to be probably the best player in the world(certainly in his position) he doesn't show it enough for Utd. Over the course of a full season I would much rather have Pjanic in a team than Pogba right now, plus he is one of the best free kick takers around so that is a bonus.

bangkok

Drumpot wrote: »

How does that benefit us if he won’t put in the same performances for united?

I don’t care what he did for Juventus or does for France if he won’t put in the same efforts for united.

Funny that Pogba said he didn’t change his haircut to stop distractions and focused on the job at hand for France..... Jose was quoted as saying that his France performances showed he can play brilliant when he has no distractions and focuses on what his team needs.

Let me guess, he needs to play alongside Kante to perform? Or Deshamps makes him feel more loved? Or he played in a slightly different role to the one people were saying he couldn’t do at united?

Eventually bangkok you have to see that Pogbas issues at united and failure to perform at the levels we saw at the WC are not all completely down to external factors beyond Pogbas control. So then what good is it united having a world class player who’s not arsed making it work and will only step it who
When it suits him.

i blame jose.

did you see that "performance" yesterday v Bayern? nothing short of disgraceful. wouldnt be a bit surprised to see leicester turn up to old trafford and beat utd

Drumpot

bangkok wrote: »

he was useless in the world cup anyway

How does that benefit us if he won’t put in the same performances for united?

I don’t care what he did for Juventus or does for France if he won’t put in the same efforts for united.

Funny that Pogba said he didn’t change his haircut to stop distractions and focused on the job at hand for France..... Jose was quoted as saying that his France performances showed he can play brilliant when he has no distractions and focuses on what his team needs.

Let me guess, he needs to play alongside Kante to perform? Or Deshamps makes him feel more loved? Or he played in a slightly different role to the one people were saying he couldn’t do at united?

Eventually bangkok you have to see that Pogbas issues at united and failure to perform at the levels we saw at the WC are not all completely down to external factors beyond Pogbas control. So then what good is it united having a world class player who’s not arsed making it work and will only step it who
When it suits him.

bangkok

dor83 wrote: »

At his best he probably is but how often is he at his best for Utd?

he is still better than pjanic even when he is average

dor83

bangkok wrote: »

Pogba is a miles better player than pjanic. not even a contest

At his best he probably is but how often is he at his best for Utd?

bangkok

dor83 wrote: »

If Juve actually want Pogba back Utd should just tell them a straight swap of him and Darmian for Pjanic and Sandro, I think Pjanic is an excellent player and would be an improvement on Pogba(more consistent) and while he is more valuable Sandro for Darmian would make up the difference.

Pogba is a miles better player than pjanic. not even a contest

dor83

If Juve actually want Pogba back Utd should just tell them a straight swap of him and Darmian for Pjanic and Sandro, I think Pjanic is an excellent player and would be an improvement on Pogba(more consistent) and while he is more valuable Sandro for Darmian would make up the difference.

Turtwig

Demichelis joined city as a short term option. Turned out to be quite good for them in the end. Boateng is better than most other options available. If the club can get him they should.

Lord TSC

Drumpot wrote: »

I don’t know anything about Savic but if he’s good, Jose wants him, doesn’t want Pogba and united can get a decent fee for Pogba I’m all for it....

The issu is "decent few".

The reports are saying €110m. In the current market, with such little time left, I'd want at least €160m.

I'd also not be massively confident we'd get the required business done either.

bangkok

Drumpot wrote: »

I don’t know anything about Savic but if he’s good, Jose wants him, doesn’t want Pogba and united can get a decent fee for Pogba I’m all for it....

he was useless in the world cup anyway

Drumpot

Lord TSC wrote: »

Not the greatest of sources, but it certainly feels as if the Italian press have started the "PogBack" narrative, and this will play into it....

https://twitter.com/CmdotCom_En/status/1026493643622895616?s=09

I don’t know anything about Savic but if he’s good, Jose wants him, doesn’t want Pogba and united can get a decent fee for Pogba I’m all for it....

J. Marston

Would we even profit if we sold him? Suppose the World Cup win boosts his value because his United performances sure as fúck haven't.

Lord TSC

Not the greatest of sources, but it certainly feels as if the Italian press have started the "PogBack" narrative, and this will play into it....

https://twitter.com/CmdotCom_En/status/1026493643622895616?s=09

IamtheWalrus

Mitch Connor wrote: »

And that's the type of signing the club are ultimately interested in.

Ouch!

Drumpot

pjohnson wrote: »

Jaysus Rashford has joined some company.

Ibrahimovic
Rooney
Van Nistelrooy
Sheringham

the previous incumbents of it!

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Think Beckham too.

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Mark Hughes
Denis Law

Clayton Blackmore

Whatsisname

After our last 2 signings from Bayern, I'd always be wary of signing anyone they're willing to let go.

Minderbinder

Rossi IRL wrote: »

There is no denying that Woodward is great at getting in the sponsors. I think we could do with somebody to run the on field stuff like signings and managers etc to work alongside Woodward.

It must be so hard to find sponsors for United. The market is what it is. He hasn’t done anything revolutionary.

Lord TSC

Don't get the "I'd rather no one than Boateng" posts

There's players I'd rather more, but I'd also rather the money be spent than not, and while I don't know much about the specific player, having a player used to playing for a top level team, at a top level, is better than nothing right now.

It looks, for instance, as if we can get Boateng now and Toby next summer. Boateng would be a short term solution, but a short term solution seems better than none at all.

Again, its a "cutting your nose off to spite your face" mentality.....

markcahill1985

pjohnson wrote:

They didn't use actually squad numbers back then so didn't count it (or were there squad numbers when Hughes rejoined?)

Yes Hughes was number 10 from when they were introduced in 93/94 season.

jimmytwotimes 2013

pjohnson wrote: »

They didn't use actually squad numbers back then so didn't count it (or were there squad numbers when Hughes rejoined?)

They're iconic 10s tho, no?

pjohnson

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Mark Hughes
Denis Law

They didn't use actually squad numbers back then so didn't count it (or were there squad numbers when Hughes rejoined?)

jimmytwotimes 2013

pjohnson wrote: »

Jaysus Rashford has joined some company.

Ibrahimovic
Rooney
Van Nistelrooy
Sheringham

the previous incumbents of it!

Mark Hughes
Denis Law

Drumpot

Rossi IRL wrote: »

There is no denying that Woodward is great at getting in the sponsors. I think we could do with somebody to run the on field stuff like signings and managers etc to work alongside Woodward.

If only there was an existing position in football whereby somebody with a good football knowledge, good negotiating qualities and who could work with the manager could take up some sort of director position....

We could call it the “football guy who works with manager director” or something like that....

It’s a real shame that no position exists for this role :pac:

Giggsy11

pjohnson wrote: »

Jaysus Rashford has joined some company.

Ibrahimovic
Rooney
Van Nistelrooy
Sheringham

the previous incumbents of it!

Think Beckham too.

pjohnson

Jaysus Rashford has joined some company.

Ibrahimovic
Rooney
Van Nistelrooy
Sheringham

the previous incumbents of it!

Rossi IRL

There is no denying that Woodward is great at getting in the sponsors. I think we could do with somebody to run the on field stuff like signings and managers etc to work alongside Woodward.