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Tiviar Alpha Plus Combo STB

Johnboy1951

BK MOD:Please see the following post for The high horse brigade's latest backup image for the Tiviar:
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=106783394

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This STB combo has been mentioned a couple of times in threads so I thought to post some links for those interested.

2 x DVB-S/2 tuners
1 x DVB-T/2 tuner

It has quite a few features such as multiple USB ports; e-sata port; internal rack for 2.5" HDD as well as a couple of CI slots.

OS is Linux based I think.

It has settings for Disec and is also Unicable capable.
Supports Hbb-TV. It has Picture-in-Picture also.

It seems well priced now for a box with such features. It was quite costly some time ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=YYsO8ruoI8o

Review here http://linux-tv.com/receiver/tiviar-alpha-plus/

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greasepalm

Can you answer if why recordings may not work on a diseqc as i see N/A with signal and quality yet a picture is shown.
i have 28.2,19.2,13 and a motorised feed [ not control ] on tuner b

PacMan

The high horse brigade wrote: »

Yes, but if you add each dish to each satellite tuner A and B you will not be able to watch and record something else on the same satellite. You would need a diseqc switch to do it better allowing you to change satellite on either tuner

https://www.freetv.ie/5x2-diseqc-switch/

Thanks for the info.
my next project, in the making

NewClareman

This thread has prompted me to finally give notice to sky.
I’ve already decided to buy the Alpha Plus, but I’m wondering about a suitable HDD type and capacity.
There appears to be plenty options for PVR drives at 3.5, but not at 2.5. Has anyone any suggestions?
I’m also wondering whether there is any app similar to Kodi for the Open ATV build? If so I’d buy a larger HDD and load my film collection directly to the box.
Thanks for any input.

The high horse brigade

NewClareman wrote: »

This thread has prompted me to finally give notice to sky.
I’ve already decided to buy the Alpha Plus, but I’m wondering about a suitable HDD type and capacity.
There appears to be plenty options for PVR drives at 3.5, but not at 2.5. Has anyone any suggestions?
I’m also wondering whether there is any app similar to Kodi for the Open ATV build? If so I’d buy a larger HDD and load my film collection directly to the box.
Thanks for any input.

If you buy from World of Sat they will include a 1TB drive for an extra £60
https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/tiviar-alpha-plus

You are better off with network storage and an Android box for other media

NewClareman

The high horse brigade wrote: »

If you buy from World of Sat they will include a 1TB drive for an extra £60
https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/tiviar-alpha-plus

You are better off with network storage and an Android box for other media

Thanks, THHB, I hadn’t seen the 1TB option - that’ll work grand.

In relation to other media, I’d be fine with network storage. The piece I’d really like to crack is the interface for viewing the films. Is there any option to have something similar to Popcorn time, or it’s ilk? (The idea is to have something as wifey friendly as possible!!)

spongerobinson

NewClareman wrote: »

Is there any option to have something similar to Popcorn time, or it’s ilk? (The idea is to have something as wifey friendly as possible!!)

You can't go wrong with Kodi, either running on an Android box, or a Raspberry Pi which is what I use.

The high horse brigade

NewClareman wrote: »

Thanks, THHB, I hadn’t seen the 1TB option - that’ll work grand.

In relation to other media, I’d be fine with network storage. The piece I’d really like to crack is the interface for viewing the films. Is there any option to have something similar to Popcorn time, or it’s ilk? (The idea is to have something as wifey friendly as possible!!)

I have the Nvidia Shield TV, an amazing device but very pricey. On it I use Plex, Netflix, Amazon Prime video, YouTube and Kodi. I also use it for gaming making it worth the price.

NewClareman

The high horse brigade wrote: »

I have the Nvidia Shield TV, an amazing device but very pricey. On it I use Plex, Netflix, Amazon Prime video, YouTube and Kodi. I also use it for gaming making it worth the price.

What I was really hoping was a front end app for the box itself, accessible from the AlphaPlus menu i.e. like a “movies” tab on the Sky EPG. 🙂

By the way, found a review, that might interest someone: http://www.mytiviar.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tele-Satellite-Tiviar-Alpha-Plus-Test-Report.pdf

The high horse brigade

NewClareman wrote: »

By the way, found a review, that might interest someone: http://www.mytiviar.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tele-Satellite-Tiviar-Alpha-Plus-Test-Report.pdf

That review is a review of the box on its original OS. These ones are flashed with Enigma OS, will look and behave completely different.

spongerobinson

NewClareman wrote: »

What I was really hoping was a front end app for the box itself, accessible from the AlphaPlus menu i.e. like a “movies” tab on the Sky EPG. ðŸ™‚

By the way, found a review, that might interest someone: http://www.mytiviar.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tele-Satellite-Tiviar-Alpha-Plus-Test-Report.pdf

You could do this the other way around in theory. Kodi has an add-on that can import channels, EPG, recordings, etc from an enigma 2 box.

NewClareman

The high horse brigade wrote: »

That review is a review of the box on its original OS. These ones are flashed with Enigma OS, will look and behave completely different.

Yeah, I realise that, but it does give a good indication of what the hardware is capable of.
Anyway, I’ve just pulled the trigger and I can’t wait to try out your image.

NewClareman

spongerobinson wrote: »

You could do this the other way around in theory. Kodi has an add-on that can import channels, EPG, recordings, etc from an enigma 2 box.

I’ve played around a little bit with Kodi, but at the moment I’m just looking at a single box solution that is ready to roll when Sky is switched off in 3 weeks time. (I already cast movies directly to the TV using DNLA and also with Chromecast.)

spongerobinson

NewClareman wrote: »

I’ve played around a little bit with Kodi, but at the moment I’m just looking at a single box solution that is ready to roll when Sky is switched off in 3 weeks time. (I already cast movies directly to the TV using DNLA and also with Chromecast.)

That's what I'm suggesting you could try. You'd need two boxes, but everything runs through Kodi. Apart from needing to have the tiviar turned on, you wouldn't really need to use it for much else after initial setup.

NewClareman

spongerobinson wrote: »

That's what I'm suggesting you could try. You'd need two boxes, but everything runs through Kodi. Apart from needing to have the tiviar turned on, you wouldn't really need to use it for much else after initial setup.

If I get you correctly I’d be using the Tiviar as just another backend for Kodi and it could access the bouquets directly. As it happens I do have a Rasberry Pi hanging around somewhere, and I might try that when I have a bit of time. Thanks for the suggestion, I didn’t realise that that was even possible. 🙂

spongerobinson

NewClareman wrote: »

If I get you correctly I’d be using the Tiviar as just another backend for Kodi and it could access the bouquets directly. As it happens I do have a Rasberry Pi hanging around somewhere, and I might try that when I have a bit of time. Thanks for the suggestion, I didn’t realise that that was even possible. 🙂

Yup, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. I do it myself on the tv in the bedroom, to access the satellite box downstairs (not a Tiviar, but should work with any Enigma2 box). If you have a Raspberry Pi 3 it should be a pretty nice user experience too, but any Raspberry Pi should do to try it out I think.

Fairly new to this stuff and was looking for advice. I was hoping to purchase 2 of the Tiviar Alpha Plus Combo STB. What do I need to ask from a satellite installer to provide me with to have them setup to have FTA/Saorview and recording functionality?

The high horse brigade

py wrote: »

Fairly new to this stuff and was looking for advice. I was hoping to purchase 2 of the Tiviar Alpha Plus Combo STB. What do I need to ask from a satellite installer to provide me with to have them setup to have FTA/Saorview and recording functionality?

You need 2x satellite and 1x terrestrial feed. It's also handy to have Ethernet to your broadband network.

The high horse brigade wrote: »

You need 2x satellite and 1x terrestrial feed. It's also handy to have Ethernet to your broadband network.

Great thanks for the info. Is that 2x satellite and 1x terrestrial feed per box or that's what the dish should be capable of? (possibly silly/newb questions)

The high horse brigade

py wrote: »

Great thanks for the info. Is that 2x satellite and 1x terrestrial feed per box or that's what the dish should be capable of? (possibly silly/newb questions)

Per box. Dish LNBs come in single, double, quad and octo outputs. If you've a few rooms to do or may need them in future you may be best put in a multi switch. Get an installer, they'll advise what's best.

FastFullBack

ShaneOC wrote: »

Is it a limitation on the box or tuner that you cannot live pause Saorview channels? I've not heard of such a limitation before. Live pause and rewind work fine on my box for all channels (Saorview and satellite).

Also, when recording from satellite each tuner reads all channels on the transponder so you can record more than 2 satellite channels at a single time as long as those channels are on two transponders. This also means that you can watch other channels on the transponders while there are two recordings in progress.

For example, if you are using both satellite tuners to record something on BBC One HD and Channel 4 HD you can also watch BBC Two HD, CBBC HD (if broadcasting) and 4seven.

The same is true for terrestrial tuners, all channels on the multiplex can be read by a terrestrial tuner at the same time. So with two tuners you can watch or record all of the Saorview channels at the same time.

I'm planning to buy this box to replace Sky, but concerned about the comments about no timeshift on saorview. Surely if you have no other recordings in progress, timeshift is possible by the box recording onto the hard drive whilst you've paused the TV. I always thought that's how it worked on Sky + box.

Can anyone 100% confirm timeshift simply isn't available on saorview channels?

Gerry Wicklow

I don't have that specific box but can't see any reason why it wont do timeshift. It definitely works on any box I have for Saorview and satellite. The only possible restriction I can think of is someone using a USB stick for storage which just isn't fast enough to read and write a HD channel at the same time.
The only other restriction with Saorview which applies to most boxes is the fact that Saorview uses two mux frequencies. If your box only has one terrestrial tuner, you will not be able to watch/ record say RTÉ2 and RTÉ1 at the same time. The easiest workaround for this is to watch one show using the TVs own tuner while the box records the other.

FastFullBack

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

I don't have that specific box but can't see any reason why it wont do timeshift. It definitely works on any box I have for Saorview and satellite. The only possible restriction I can think of is someone using a USB stick for storage which just isn't fast enough to read and write a HD channel at the same time.
The only other restriction with Saorview which applies to most boxes is the fact that Saorview uses two mux frequencies. If your box only has one terrestrial tuner, you will not be able to watch/ record say RTÉ2 and RTÉ1 at the same time. The easiest workaround for this is to watch one show using the TVs own tuner while the box records the other.

Thanks, that's what I thought

sligojoek

I've done pause timeshift on sairview channels loads of times. As above I've split the coax and have one cable to the TV and another to the box

The high horse brigade

sligojoek wrote: »

I've done pause timeshift on sairview channels loads of times. As above I've split the coax and have one cable to the TV and another to the box

You shouldn't split, splitting loses half your signal. Instead use the loop out from the box

Atlantic Dawn

If along with the terrestrial input you just have 1 satellite input instead of 2 will there be full funcionality besides not being able to record 2+ Sat items at the same time?

The high horse brigade

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

If along with the terrestrial input you just have 1 satellite input instead of 2 will there be full funcionality besides not being able to record 2+ Sat items at the same time?

Yes but you'll need to disable the second satellite tuner or you'll have issues.

Why would you not bother with 2 feeds, you can send terrestrial and satellite down a single cable using combiners

Atlantic Dawn

The high horse brigade wrote: »

Yes but you'll need to disable the second satellite tuner or you'll have issues.

Why would you not bother with 2 feeds, you can send terrestrial and satellite down a single cable using combiners

I've only 1 free connection from the dish, other 3 are being used. Might have to look at an Octo LNB

swoofer

get a hybrid with 6 and be future proofed!!

greasepalm

Why get a hybrid as thats only for sky Q is it not?

FastFullBack

I’ve bitten the bullet and order one. Quick question, I presume a channel can be in more than one bouquet/group? Like BBC ONE HD in Entertainment and also in a HD group?