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Let's all take Blindboy seriously now...

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People do know this is a character right? And not an actual person?

Does it strike anyone else as strange that a made-up persona with a fake voice, parody accent and a fking plastic bag on his head is treated like a normal, regular person in debates and current affairs TV shows? And given the same credibility and respect as an actual real person?

Imagine Fr. Dougal Mcguire, Dustin the Turkey and Fortycoats appearing our incisive current affairs shows discussing mental health with Alan Partridge adjudicating.

Or discussing the 8th amendment and feminism with Mrs Brown, The Bottler and Podge and Rodge? It would be treated like a joke (obviously), but when the prank phone call making, glue-huffing, spastic hawk-toting Blindboy talks serious we all suddenly have to sit up take it seriously.

If I was asked to debate on the same show as a parody character I'd be more than a little pissed off.

By all means share your story on mental health or offer an opinion on our education system. But for fk sake would you give us and the other people on the show the respect of doing it yourself, in a real voice? Without a fking bag on your head?

Alternatively if you prefer holding on to the bag, you could try going back to... you know... being funny. And less preachy.

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nozzferrahhtoo

I will have to take your word for it

As I said 100% of what I know of the woman came from this podcast today. And the user called it a "sh*t show" despite me not finding a single thing wrong with it. So I was confused.

Anything else she might have said or done elsewhere I can not comment on at all. No idea who "Una" refers to either. Most stuff in our news papers fits the description you just gave for me to be honest. So I do not tend to read much of them any more.

[Deleted User]

nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »

Ah ok, that sounds very different as an evaluation.

"banal" and "sh*t show" are quite different to my mind though. The former suggests you merely were bored by the content. The latter (dictionary: a situation or event marked by chaos or controversy.) suggests that something really bad was there, something you took quite some exception to or found problematic or harmful.

Perhaps you and I merely use those phrases much differently and I was left with the impression there was more problematic there than mere boredom on your part. It is clearer now, thanks. I thought I had simply missed something totally obviously egregious and was questioning my own sanity

Think about Louise, and Una, is that I've heard them both speak and they come across well, and pretty sound. And I'd say if most people knew them casually they'd think they were cool, and sound. And people who I'd regard as well read thought Asking For It was quite a decent book.

It's just the columns they write...
God awful ill thought out much, always a sense that they were written really quickly and close to the deadline such is the absence of any critical thought and self challenge, and almost exclusively based upon what is trending in their twitter circles. Usually unrelated to Irish context or nuance.

They could be much better advised.

nozzferrahhtoo

Ah ok, that sounds very different as an evaluation.

"banal" and "sh*t show" are quite different to my mind though. The former suggests you merely were bored by the content. The latter (dictionary: a situation or event marked by chaos or controversy.) suggests that something really bad was there, something you took quite some exception to or found problematic or harmful.

Perhaps you and I merely use those phrases much differently and I was left with the impression there was more problematic there than mere boredom on your part. It is clearer now, thanks. I thought I had simply missed something totally obviously egregious and was questioning my own sanity

Ush1

nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »

Is there a particular aspect that made it a "sh*t show" for you? As I can find little in there to take exception or objection to.

It was utterly banal to be honest. Soft ball questions and a strange preoccupation with victimhood.

nozzferrahhtoo

Ush1 wrote: »

His latest podcast is an interview with Louise O Neill. It's the sh*tshow you would expect.

Interestingly I did not "expect" anything as I know literally nothing about Louise ONeill at all other than I have seen a few thread titles and random mentions around boards that suggest she is generally not liked on here.

Everything I know about her I just learned from that podcast. Never knew she wrote books. Never knew she wrote for young adults. Never knew she wrote a book about rape. Never knew she had been raped or something similar herself. Never knew she was feminist or spoke often on that subject.

Vaguely suspected she was a journalist of sorts which was 100% of everything I knew about her. Literally 100%.

So I thought I would listen to the podcast today as a kind of introduction to her. And to be honest I can not find anything much wrong with it. Is there a particular aspect that made it a "sh*t show" for you? As I can find little in there to take exception or objection to.

I do agree though that....

Ush1 wrote: »

He also said the material made some men in the audience so uncomfortable they walked out, is he sure they didn't just walk out 'cause it was a load of sh*te?

... that was blatant assumption by "blindboy" indeed. He saw people leave and assumed he knew why they were leaving because it fit a narrative he holds.

He made a joke however in the podcast at one point like "So I hope you are all enjoying the COMEDY festival" when he realized that the discussion was serious and not comedy at all.

THAT is likely more the reason people got up and left. They were at a comedy festival. Perhaps they felt they simply were not getting what they were there for so decided to leave. Perfectly valid and justifiable thing to do..... not that justification is required. Perhaps given the number of people who are victims of sexual assault and rape and worse.... men and women..... they topic was too close to the bone for them and they left for their own sake. Also perfectly valid a thing to do and does not require justification.

That or they needed another beer or the toilet or something else in the festival was starting at that time. Thats the thing about festivals after all.... staggered starting times across the stages meaning people often leave one act in the middle to catch the starting time of another act. Hardly earth shattering stuff.

Other than this blatant narrative driven assumption however I can not find exception to anything either he or she said on stage.

PlaneSpeeking

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Good shout but I think Russell Brand was a little more playful and definitely more self aware, think Blindboy pips it

Possibly so!

Call Me Jimmy

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Russell Brand - I swear his routine is just a load of random words, most of which he doesn't understand!

Good shout but I think Russell Brand was a little more playful and definitely more self aware, think Blindboy pips it

PlaneSpeeking

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

How anyone listens to this guy I will never know. Funny he mentions a friend who thinks he's more intelligent than most women, yet every pretentious, condescending sentence he squeezes out with his 'salt of the earth' act is nauseating. I've never heard anyone try and project intellectualism more than this guy does.

Russell Brand - I swear his routine is just a load of random words, most of which he doesn't understand!

Call Me Jimmy

How anyone listens to this guy I will never know. Funny he mentions a friend who thinks he's more intelligent than most women, yet every pretentious, condescending sentence he squeezes out with his 'salt of the earth' act is nauseating. I've never heard anyone try and project intellectualism more than this guy does.

Outlaw Pete

Deleted User wrote: »

Jesus..went on looking for the LON podcast..how in God's name do people listen to this?..

Painful isn't it.

The story beforehand of some that guy he knows, who thinks he's smarter than women, being an example of male privilege, is particularly annoying.

Couldn't be just that the guy's a dickhead, no.

PlaneSpeeking

Deleted User wrote: »

Jesus..went on looking for the LON podcast..how in God's name do people listen to this?..

I'd say if they broadcast it to Gitmo even the hard core Republicans/Tea Party would think it cruel.

[Deleted User]

Jesus..went on looking for the LON podcast..how in God's name do people listen to this?..

Wibbs

Ush1 wrote: »

He goes on about not having an external locus of evaluation

Performers tend to. The need to judge oneself by outsiders, the more the merrier. It kinda goes with the territory.

Ush1

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

What you need to do is to take it easy and not be fretting. Relax your head. Buy a tin of sardines and go feed an otter.

Depression. Neoliberalism. Disco music. LBGT. Feminism.

He goes on about not having an external locus of evaluation and then goes on to say he likes having financial goals and wants positive reviews for his podcast.

Billy86

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Bloody patriarchy and internalised misogyny.

I blame Paddy Jackson. And Granddad Murphy.

Its OK. The blind boy thread is now on the front page in its stead. The daily ranting and random posting of buzzwords can continue here until someone locates the Louise oneill thread to bump it, as the last thing we need is people's heads exploding from building up steam between the ears.

Outlaw Pete

What you need to do is to take it easy and not be fretting. Relax your head. Buy a tin of sardines and go feed an otter.

Depression. Neoliberalism. Disco music. LBGT. Feminism.

[Deleted User]

Ush1 wrote: »

........Thought it was endearing that he mentioned boards.ie as a cesspit...........

He mightn't like reading hoe some see him for what he is, a populist horsesh1t spouter ............. poor lad.

PlaneSpeeking

Wibbs wrote: »

When an "artiste" makes such a claim about any group, you can be almost guaranteed that they've gone off the deep end of ego onanism. It's also a near guarantee that it never happened or "some men" meant a couple of lads going to the jacks.

Like when Bono put pictures of African orphans on the screen at Croker during the 360 tour, supported by a video of Desmond Tutu - and we all went the jacks and the bar ????

PlaneSpeeking

Billy86 wrote: »

I see the Louise O'Neill thread has slipped off the front page.

Bloody patriarchy and internalised misogyny.

I blame Paddy Jackson. And Granddad Murphy.

Billy86

I see the Louise O'Neill thread has slipped off the front page.

Wibbs

Ush1 wrote: »

He also said the material made some men in the audience so uncomfortable they walked out,

When an "artiste" makes such a claim about any group, you can be almost guaranteed that they've gone off the deep end of ego onanism. It's also a near guarantee that it never happened or "some men" meant a couple of lads going to the jacks.

PlaneSpeeking

Ush1 wrote: »

His latest podcast is an interview with Louise O Neill.

It's the sh*tshow you would expect. Thought it was endearing that he mentioned boards.ie as a cesspit.

He also said the material made some men in the audience so uncomfortable they walked out, is he sure they didn't just walk out 'cause it was a load of sh*te?

Blindboy and her ?

Jesus it's like finding out Rose West hooked up with Myra Hindley in jail.

JohnnyFlash

Did he use the word art more than usual in the podcast? Art. Art. Art. Said in that put on Limerick accent. Art.

Toxic masculinity as well. But mostly his ‘art’.

Ush1

His latest podcast is an interview with Louise O Neill.

It's the sh*tshow you would expect. Thought it was endearing that he mentioned boards.ie as a cesspit.

He also said the material made some men in the audience so uncomfortable they walked out, is he sure they didn't just walk out 'cause it was a load of sh*te?

Noveight

razorblunt wrote: »

I don't see anything wrong with that. Fúck him is right, and when he get to hell fúck him again.

I’m completely in agreement. Thought it was a bit sudden but having looked up the lads backstory it’s no surprise people aren’t sorry after him.

Grayson

Hande hoche! wrote: »

McDonalds Denmark is as cold as ice.

https://twitter.com/McDonaIdsDM/status/1008827282302164998

If it was burgerking I might enter.

Hande hoche!

McDonalds Denmark is as cold as ice.

https://twitter.com/McDonaIdsDM/status/1008827282302164998

Billy86

I hadn't heard of him until a few posts up, that guy really was a remarkable piece of work - https://pitchfork.com/news/xxxtentacion-jailed-on-new-charges-of-harassing-witness/ - and all by age 20.

And it keeps going... Scroll down to 'controversies and public image'.

razorblunt

Noveight wrote: »

This 20 year old bloke has hardly made it to the morgue and someone's already Tweeted "fúck him". Jaysus...

https://twitter.com/saverickandroll/status/1008833211215081478

I don't see anything wrong with that. Fúck him is right, and when he get to hell fúck him again.

Grayson

Augeo wrote: »

" I simultaneously don't think it's a good thing that a 20 year old was just shot dead though"

Staying on the fence really, when you speel populist horsesh1t that's needed most of the time unless you are speeling on about homelessness etc when 1916 was a better time for folk :rolleyes:

Not really. It's possible to want to see someone pay for their crimes and be against murder.