Giggsy11 wrote: » ManUtd wated Striker - signed Lukaku CB: Nailly and Lindelof RB - Dalot DM - Matic Star midfielder - Pogba Controlling one - Fred Star wide player - SanchezOut of 10 outfield players, 8 are Jose's signings. We have identified and signed players, shame Jose didn't get best out of players.
brinty wrote: » Absolutely was a stupid thing to say but when you consider what he's said and now done it makes for eye watering reading World record fee for a defender on Van Dijk £75m previous record was £50 by citeh a couple of times over .. think Laporte was then bought for 57m thereafter Current record fee for a goalkeeper £34m by Citeh on Ederson... and we're looking at a fee of £67m for Allisson... That's 50% on top of the then record for Van Dijk and 100% on top if this Allisson deal goes through... that's not incremental growth that's at rogue trading levels crazy but hey so long as the "net spending" is ok...
Giggsy11 wrote: » ManUtd wated Striker - signed Lukaku CB: Nailly and Lindelof RB - Dalot DM - Matic Star midfielder - Pogba Controlling one - Fred Star wide player - Sanchez Out of 10 outfield players, 8 are Jose's signings. We have identified and signed players, shame Jose didn't get best out of players.
TitianGerm wrote: » Liverpool also signed a hugely improved sponsorship deal with Standard Chartered last year. That with the Couthino money and Champions League revenue it has nothing to do with Net Spend. The club are been ran well by FSG and are finally addressing weaknesses in the squad.
xtal191 wrote: » At the moment Liverpool are looking like the only team who might even challenge City. Get a ****ing move on Jose and Woodward
Bret Hart wrote: » I do believe our business is fininshed for this window.
TitianGerm wrote: » Yup it's terrible that Klopp is spending big money to fix long standing problem areas in the team which have cost Liverpool so many points over the last few seasons.
Mitch Connor wrote: » But Klopp said he would quit football before spending such fees. He didn't say "I'll quit unless such fees are funded by good business". I mean he said it over United signing Pogba - funded by massive sponsorship deals and merchandise income. If it was terrible for United to fund such a deal in such a way, why is it ok for Liverpool to do so now? Is it cause Klopp was talking through his ass for the benifit of his fans and was as wrong then as United fans said? If that is the case, just acknowledge he was is a liar and/or a hypocrite.
yabadabado wrote: » That's not the point is it? It was an idiotic statement to make, makes Klopp look foolish and will be a stick used to beat him with if things don't go to plan.
Will I Am Not wrote: » Not a hope. All your posts are “end of the world” stuff since last season. OTT negativity on literally everything.
TitianGerm wrote: » £90m two years ago was huge. Two years later and were after seeing PSG blow that £90m fee out of the water. Barkley cost £15m with 6 months on his contract, Jordan Ibe went for £15m, Zaha is valued at £60m+. Couthino was nearly £140m. The fees are gone crazy. I doubt Jose, Klopp or any manger was expecting them to jump so much. I'd say they all thought the Pogba fee would be a record for a long time and that the market would normalise itself. Like De Gea might have been worth £50m two years ago, now United wouldn't blink for less than £100m. The market moved on. Klopp had to start paying large fees for excellent players or he could be paying £20m for average guys. If the Alisson transfer goes through I wonder how Liverpool and Untieds spending compares since both managers came in? I'd think Liverpool will be slightly higher now.
Mitch Connor wrote: » Doesn't matter. I think you are wrong in saying people thought Pogba's fee would stand a record for time - everyone could see where fees were going - it was said at the time, and Klopp said he wouldn't join in spending such fees. it was against how he thought football should be. He would quit before doing it. Now he has done it because, as was expected and said in rebuttal to him at the time, transfers fees dictate you have to spend these figures to sign top players. The market moved on EXACTLY as was expected - so the reality doesn't change the fact Klopp has abandoned his philosophies and beliefs, according to what he said.
Bret Hart wrote: » It'll be between them for the title next season and,well will do well to get top 4. I do believe our business is fininshed for this window.
TitianGerm wrote: » If you don't adapt to the changing market/game you'll be left behind. If sure plenty of United fans would be delighted if Liverpool/Klopp were still just paying £15-£20m for players and watching them slide further down the table. £50m isn't a big fee anymore.
pjohnson wrote: » Dalot and Fred havent even played a non-competitive game for the club and you are blaming Jose already :pac:
Mitch Connor wrote: » Not signed this summer. Not signed this summer. Not Signed this summer. Signed this summer - completely unproven and no idea if that will solve the right back issue, Lindelof hasn't solved CB so we are confident our latest (even younger) recruit from Portugal is going to be our star. Not signed this summer. Not signed this summer. SIgned this summer - have to assume/hope he solves one of the issues. Not signed this summer - caused more problems than he has solved. Going into this summer, the issues basically everyone was in agreement on: Need to improve CB significantly - NOTHING done. Massive worry. Need to improve at LB significantly - NOTHING done. Massive worry. Need to improve at RB - Dalot signed, but seemingly as a longer term prospect. Still going to be Valencia first choice. Massive worry. Need to improve at CM - Fred signed. Hoping he will prove to be the signing we needed there. Need a righted sided player to balance our attack. NOTHING done. a big worry. But sure, the two CBs that have been injured or unused most of last season, be great. The left back Jose has publicly slammed after pretty much every fleeting performance, he'll be great too. Jose is going to a much more robust defence and functioning attack out of the same group of players he has failed to get those things out of in 24 months. We are going to go from being 19 points off the title and knocked out of europe by Seville in two humiliating games by adding one central midfielder and a back up right back.
The_Kew_Tour wrote: » Klopp would never lie, ever.
Mitch Connor wrote: » Sentence 1 - I agree. It is Klopp who said he would quit before doing so and that his philosophy dictated a difference way of building a team. Sentence 2 - I agree. This would be more in line with what Klopp said though. Sentence 3 - I agree. Again, it is Klopp you are arguing against. I'm not saying Liverpool should be criticised for their business. I think it is very good business and what they needed to do. What I am saying is Klopp was clear that it is against his beliefs and philosophy and that he would quit football if it was needed. It is needed, yet he doesn't quit. He has joined in, yet he doesn't quit. I'm not even expecting him to quit. I just think he should be called on the utter BS he spouted, which was only spouted because he knew it would play well to the crowd. He is a liar and/or a hypocrite. It is that simple.
jayo26 wrote: » Chelsea come in with a 70 million pound bid and then the sh1t will hit the fan haha.
Giggsy11 wrote: » Oh didn't get the memo that we have to sign 11 every summer. After signing 8 players out of 10, if we still have so many gaps (as per fans) then we are trusting a wrong man. We have good squad, only issue is right wing but Jose did nothing to address that. He trusts Valencia and Young, so he doesn't even think it's very important to upgrade fullbacks, for him signing CB is more of a priority and we signed 2 in 2 years already.
TitianGerm wrote: » The fees are gone crazy. I doubt Jose, Klopp or any manger was expecting them to jump so much. I'd say they all thought the Pogba fee would be a record for a long time and that the market would normalise itself.
Paul Pogba's world-record transfer fee will soon look like a bargain, says Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho.
"I am pretty sure that next summer some players with only half his quality probably will cost the same money or more, so I am waiting for that moment to release him from the scrutiny.
pjohnson wrote: » Maybe Klopp was concussed when he said it.
