jayo26 wrote: » Think the biggest thing been discussed here is that he was playing in virtually the same role for France that he is asked to play for United and as you say he simplified his game and got on with it and is reaping the rewards and long may it last I'd love an inform pogba. But similar to de gea making one or two mistakes with spain and us not been worried, pogba having a good world cup does not help us one bit unless he comes back and does it with United.
bangkok wrote: » Its not the same role though. He was playing in a 2 with matic with 4 attackers ahead of him. With france he has kante and matuidi offering protection giving him more freedom to play
yabadabado wrote: » Next season he will have Matic and Fred beside him so hopefully his performances improve.
astradave wrote: » So if we take what your saying about France is true(it’s not but I’m not getting into that discussion again). what's the excuse for when united moved to 433 after Christmas and in particular giving him extra protection in midfield. Now remember he played his best football for us at the start of the season in a midfield two and then lost form so we moved to a midfield 3 to try help him regain that. It just seems that there is a hell of a lot of excuses being made for Pogba for last season, when in essence he should be looking at himself.
jayo26 wrote: » You really need to undo what you undid mate what's the point.
pjohnson wrote: » Aye think I need to get me laptop charged up aswell.
Adamocovic wrote: » Was Pogba the reason we moved to a 4-3-3? I can't even remember why Mouringo switched. But on France. I wouldn't really call it a 4-3-3. They played a normal 4-3-3 in the opener when Giroud wasn't playing. But with Giroud in the squad they move more towards a 4-2-3-1, with Giroud up top on his own and Griezmann playing in-between Mbappe and Matuidi. Matuidi mind you has a bit of an odd role. Seems to float from out wide, to central quite a bit thanks to Hernandez and his ability to attack from the wings. After typing this I'm realising you probably agree regarding the formation based off your first sentence.
pjohnson wrote: » Yes. But your wrong. Matuidi is a midfielder and its 4-3-3. Meself & Astra have made the same mistake you did calling it 4-2-3-1
jayo26 wrote: » So did just about every statistic site. All line ups I seen was 4231 and on tv it looked 4231. The only thing I will say is mars probably hit the nail on the head when she said in defence and attack it is different formations but even still at that pogba was allowed freedom he just didn't use it at United after Christmas much.
Cotts72 wrote: » Fair ****s to him, obviously got a lot of stick from the ibiza pics but kept the head down! Im praying we still sign a left back but he at least steps it up this season amd adds competition
Adamocovic wrote: » People feeding in to criticising Luke Shaw on his holidays over some picture the Sun put out. Gas really. Most football fans complain about tabloids like them but in all honesty they get views and money from the same people who complain. I'm guilty too. Anyway, it's June. He's on his holidays. I couldn't care less what supposed "shape" he is in. If he comes back for the start of next season out of shape and lethargic then I will care.
Adamocovic wrote: » I see papers now saying Luke Shaw wants to try earn a spot rather than moving this summer. Not sure if true or not, and depends what club wants too. The way these things go, don't you just know he will show up fit as a fiddle before pre-season and spark off the debate again. Regardless of his fitness he hasn't had a great relationship with José, so now depends if José really isn't a fan of his, or is doing so to try force a reaction, that will depend on how he responds so too.
Adamocovic wrote: » :cool: Damn it feels good to be right I know I wasn't the only one drumming on about how the pre-season hadn't started yet when those photos emerged, but many seemed to think it was impossible for him to get in shape in time. Maybe next time people will weight before criticising him.
FourFourFM wrote: » The sad thing is their will be fans disappointed to see him in such good shape because it doesn’t fit into their narrative. I hope he gets back to his best for us this season.
Adamocovic wrote: » Cotts72 wrote: » Fair ****s to him, obviously got a lot of stick from the ibiza pics but kept the head down! Im praying we still sign a left back but he at least steps it up this season amd adds competition :cool: Adamocovic wrote: » People feeding in to criticising Luke Shaw on his holidays over some picture the Sun put out. Gas really. Most football fans complain about tabloids like them but in all honesty they get views and money from the same people who complain. I'm guilty too. Anyway, it's June. He's on his holidays. I couldn't care less what supposed "shape" he is in. If he comes back for the start of next season out of shape and lethargic then I will care. Adamocovic wrote: » I see papers now saying Luke Shaw wants to try earn a spot rather than moving this summer. Not sure if true or not, and depends what club wants too. The way these things go, don't you just know he will show up fit as a fiddle before pre-season and spark off the debate again. Regardless of his fitness he hasn't had a great relationship with José, so now depends if José really isn't a fan of his, or is doing so to try force a reaction, that will depend on how he responds so too. Damn it feels good to be right I know I wasn't the only one drumming on about how the pre-season hadn't started yet when those photos emerged, but many seemed to think it was impossible for him to get in shape in time. Maybe next time people will weight before criticising him.
Lord TSC wrote: » United vs Leicester chosen as the opening game of the season. Friday 10th August
