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Waterford developments

Muttley79

Thought I’d start a new thread about developments happening in Waterford.do people think the building boom is making its way to Waterford?

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Harry Palmr

Every time I am around John Street I'm struck by how awful a kip it is.

Deisegodeo

PTH2009 wrote: »

Could be going there I'm not sure

It's terrible having big eye sores in the middle of the our pub/nightclub district with Masons, foundry and thirsty scholar all closed. Not that John street is great anyway

Thirsty scholar is open again.

PTH2009

iseegirls wrote: »

Was the Foundry closed? (prob shows how little I'm out in the city at night anymore)

Why did they not utilize the nightclub above Sinnotts where Oxygen used to be.

Could be going there I'm not sure

It's terrible having big eye sores in the middle of the our pub/nightclub district with Masons, foundry and thirsty scholar all closed. Not that John street is great anyway

iseegirls

PTH2009 wrote: »

There's a new nightclub/late bar opening called 'the Factory' and is run by the same crowd who have the woodman (terrible to see the place almost dead after 9pm on weekdays) and sinnotts

My guess is it's going in where the foundry nightclub was

Was the Foundry closed? (prob shows how little I'm out in the city at night anymore)

Why did they not utilize the nightclub above Sinnotts where Oxygen used to be.

PTH2009

There's a new nightclub/late bar opening called 'the Factory' and is run by the same crowd who have the woodman (terrible to see the place almost dead after 9pm on weekdays) and sinnotts

My guess is it's going in where the foundry nightclub was

Johnboy1951

Muttley79 wrote: »

As I said before,take the Saudi investment out of Waterford and it really goes to show the present and past governments have given up on Waterford and the south east region for the future.only for the Saudi investment Waterford are getting nothing in the future plans of Ireland,you just have to look at the National planning framework for Ireland 2040 to see that,how did Waterford go from a busy thriving city in the 60/70/80s to a ghost town.half of Ireland’s GDP is based in Dublin,that’s totally unsustainable while most EU capital cities only have 12%GDP.cork and limerick are now busy cities with a lot of infrastructure taking off in these cities.waterford really is getting pissed on by our governments,no IDA,airport,hospital,university,tourism.when you have John halligan,Mary butler and John deasy as politicians the three of them are useless and an embarrassment

The question would be why in the 2040 Plan is there little for the SE?

That plan should, of necessity, ignore local representatives as it is a national strategy plan.

IMO, the problem goes a lot deeper than ineffective local representation.

Muttley79

As I said before,take the Saudi investment out of Waterford and it really goes to show the present and past governments have given up on Waterford and the south east region for the future.only for the Saudi investment Waterford are getting nothing in the future plans of Ireland,you just have to look at the National planning framework for Ireland 2040 to see that,how did Waterford go from a busy thriving city in the 60/70/80s to a ghost town.half of Ireland’s GDP is based in Dublin,that’s totally unsustainable while most EU capital cities only have 12%GDP.cork and limerick are now busy cities with a lot of infrastructure taking off in these cities.waterford really is getting pissed on by our governments,no IDA,airport,hospital,university,tourism.when you have John halligan,Mary butler and John deasy as politicians the three of them are useless and an embarrassment

Dum_Dum

914 wrote: »

... Of great concern is that between 2017Q1 and 2018Q1, the number of people in work increased by 62,000 nationally but decreased by 2,400 in the SE. This decrease is unique to the SE and Border regions.

Shocking and disgusting.

914

Max Powers wrote: »

Muttley79 wrote: »

http://www.wlrfm.com/2018/07/24/theres-signs-that-the-weak-economic-recovery-in-waterford-has-run-out-of-steam/
Construction recovery up 20℅ across the country,it's only at 1.5℅ in the whole south east region.jesus wept when is Waterford going to get a fair crack of the whip like the rest of the country is getting,john halligan is a junior minister and his about as useful as a chocolate tea pot

Yeah, our TDs we voted are significant part of problem, we had a credible, in government and someone with some semblance of influence TD/JUNIOR minister in paudie coffey, for some inexplicable decision low information high emotion voters didn't return him and I have zero doubt we would be in better shape now if we kept him in. Since highly likely, FG will be back in, he needs to be returned ASAP,a byelection because useless Deasy in USA should be demanded, I'd guess cullinane has good chance too of doing something for Waterford, since SF are possibility for coalition.
I hope in future for Waterfords case, people put people in who can achieve something in Government, not outsiders or table bangers

Very sensible post. Irrespective of how people feel, politics in Ireland will not change for the foreseeable and therefore we are better to vote for those who may actually do something for waterford rather then those who talk the talk but can't walk the walk

Max Powers

Muttley79 wrote: »

http://www.wlrfm.com/2018/07/24/theres-signs-that-the-weak-economic-recovery-in-waterford-has-run-out-of-steam/
Construction recovery up 20℅ across the country,it's only at 1.5℅ in the whole south east region.jesus wept when is Waterford going to get a fair crack of the whip like the rest of the country is getting,john halligan is a junior minister and his about as useful as a chocolate tea pot

Yeah, our TDs we voted are significant part of problem, we had a credible, in government and someone with some semblance of influence TD/JUNIOR minister in paudie coffey, for some inexplicable decision low information high emotion voters didn't return him and I have zero doubt we would be in better shape now if we kept him in. Since highly likely, FG will be back in, he needs to be returned ASAP,a byelection because useless Deasy in USA should be demanded, I'd guess cullinane has good chance too of doing something for Waterford, since SF are possibility for coalition.
I hope in future for Waterfords case, people put people in who can achieve something in Government, not outsiders or table bangers

Harry Palmr

Cloudy southeast: region's recovery 'running out of steam'
Irish Times · 1 day ago

South-East region's economic recovery 'at an end'
Irish Examiner · 12 hours ago

Left behind: Kilkenny's economic recovery has come to an end - report
Kilkenny People · 8 hours ago

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I can't see how anyone would be surprised at this, the entire short term future of Waterford is basically in the hands of a Saudi investment corporation.

914

Here's a bit of reading from the South East Economic Monitor (SEEM), a complete and utter failure from all TD's in the region. This might explaine our little developments.

"The early indicators are that the recovery of the economy of the South East (SE) region is running out of steam. In particular, despite a bumper year for the IDA in the SE, the region has fallen further behind the rest of the State in most metrics. Of great concern is that between 2017Q1 and 2018Q1, the number of people in work increased by 62,000 nationally but decreased by 2,400 in the SE. This decrease is unique to the SE and Border regions. The unemployment rate in the SE seems to have plateaued and any modest short-term decreases over the last 12 months are largely attributable to a shrinking labour force.There is also a degree of inertia in the job-quality and sentiment metrics, with the region continuing to significantly lag behind other regions. The weak economy is illustrated in data on car sales, income tax and VAT returns, housing and the proportion of workers on the minimum wage. With the SE, the structural economic issues continue to dominate short-term economic trends. In particular, the very pronounced deficits in regional higher education capacity, acute hospital services, international tourism, and IDA supported employment drive ever lower job quality. The region faces economic headwinds which are shared with the State such as Brexit and the fragile EU recovery. However, the structural economic issues related to the SE’s relationship with the State continue to assert themselves as the dominant economic driver.

Muttley79

http://www.wlrfm.com/2018/07/24/theres-signs-that-the-weak-economic-recovery-in-waterford-has-run-out-of-steam/
Construction recovery up 20℅ across the country,it's only at 1.5℅ in the whole south east region.jesus wept when is Waterford going to get a fair crack of the whip like the rest of the country is getting,john halligan is a junior minister and his about as useful as a chocolate tea pot

Muttley79

Cork is getting nearly 1 billion worth of developments over the next few years pumped into it,really hope this north quay development goes ahead or else Waterford will be left in the Stone Age,bar that development going on in the north quays Leo and his gang gave very little to Waterford in his 2040 plan

914

kilkenny31 wrote: »

I heard that Ard Ri may not be happening. I worry a little about the Michael street thing. Like if it's to go ahead why has it not started. I know it's tied up with the North Quays but that pretty much has planning so I don't see why it's not going ahead now.

Don't think michael street is due to start till some time after August.

As for the ard ri, once the north quays is up and running I'd be very surprised if that wasn't developed

kilkenny31

914 wrote: »

Possible future developments which we should see starting over the next 12 months.

North Quays
Ard Rí
Michael Street
Walsh Park

I heard that Ard Ri may not be happening. I worry a little about the Michael street thing. Like if it's to go ahead why has it not started. I know it's tied up with the North Quays but that pretty much has planning so I don't see why it's not going ahead now.

Muttley79

Waterford could do with a whole lot more development.cork and Limerick are flying again.hopefully Waterford is not the forgotten city again while things seem to be picking up a bit everywhere else

914

Possible future developments which we should see starting over the next 12 months.

North Quays
Ard Rí
Michael Street
Walsh Park

azimuth17

New hospital also being built at St Patrick's on John's Hill. New IDA High Tech unit being built at IDA Tech Park on Cork Road. Large extension to river side of Tower Hotel. We could do with more.

Muttley79

The only big development I see in the city is the new building in ardkeen hospital,suppose the whole city is waiting on this new north quay development to kick off

Wanderer78

Deiseen wrote:

I was joking!

Apologies, but I can't pick up on these things via text.

Deiseen wrote:

But WE do have a lot of catching up to do

We do indeed, but it concerns me greatly that we still haven't figured out how to develop without creating economic booms, this is a major problem for us

Deiseen

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Deiseen wrote:

Yeah we have, we need more building booms!

I beg to differ, sit back and watch this one go bang, disturbingly, not much has actually changed in relation to what actually caused the last crash, but it is good to see new developments occuring in Waterford

I was joking!

But WE do have a lot of catching up to do

Wanderer78

Deiseen wrote:

Yeah we have, we need more building booms!

I beg to differ, sit back and watch this one go bang, disturbingly, not much has actually changed in relation to what actually caused the last crash, but it is good to see new developments occuring in Waterford

Deiseen

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Building booms! Have we learned anything?

Yeah we have, we need more building booms!

Wanderer78

Building booms! Have we learned anything?