blackdog1 wrote: » Pitted 2nd cut today. Unfortunately it is what it is cut 20th May so wasn't a complete disaster. Land to far away unfortunately so couldn’t graze it. Started today using grass as a pure protein source only. Stretching it out big time and just using as a replacement for Soya. Upping cows silage to 15kg a cow with 5kg in parlour and 2 kg maize in mix. Bringing them in 2 hrs before milking and letting them eat. Cows very content. Luckily I have some first cut left over from last year. Hoping to do a third cut if it doesn't come I'll have to cut numbers according to winter feed. Alot will depend on the whole crop harvest.
Mooooo wrote: It's a situation where all options should be looked at. Depends on everyone's situation but I would view destocking as a last resort and would be viewing every avenue to source feed for the winter first. Destocking at deflated prices and looking to up numbers again can be just as or more expensive as buying in feed. Of course it'll have to be found first
blackdog1 wrote: » When I say dropping numbers I mean culling cows that I was going to cull later now. Normally I hold onto a few untill September. Any mastitis cows or not in calf. Poor producers and cows with poor solids. Cows with feet problems etc. Milk recording is invaluable I find in situations like this. Also I'll probably get rid of 3-4 heifers with warts and stop messing around with wart vaccine.
Burning Tires wrote: » I think they should consider culling/selling any animal that has any issue. If they had 5% less mouths to feed for the rest of the year, it might help massively. It looks like David the manager might have that idea if hes condition scoreing and looking at milk test results.
yosemitesam1 wrote: » Nobody's calling on anyone to destock, merely suggesting it as one of the easiest ways to help anyone who's definitely going to be short of winter feed improve there situation
whelan2 wrote: » A few months ago when the weather was the opposite of what it is now I got rid of any excess cows it took the pressure off big time. It's up to each individual farmer to do what they think is best in their own situation. No one is telling anyone what to do. I know from dealing with our wet farm what it feels like to not want to go outside and face hungry stock. Very stressful.
Mooooo wrote: » It's a situation where all options should be looked at. Depends on everyone's situation but I would view destocking as a last resort and would be viewing every avenue to source feed for the winter first. Destocking at deflated prices and looking to up numbers again can be just as or more expensive as buying in feed. Of course it'll have to be found first
Buford T. Justice V wrote: » Mod note: Cut it out! Now! No more warnings. Folks, we've given you the benefit of the doubt up to now but any more of that silly sideswiping of each other will be attracting cards like flies to a cow****. Buford T. Justice.
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » For people that are short of fodder and are farming in tillage areas, it would be worth considering negotiating a deal with your friendly neighbors...they will be planting cc after wbarley, osr and wwheat. Moha, alexandria clover, squarrosum clover etc. could be planted immediately after the straw is cleared. These will grow extremely well because there’s still plenty moisture in the soil for those to thrive. 3-5tdm/ha easily achieved...and up to 20% protein.
Mooooo wrote: » What time frame could those be harvested, or is it a case of outwintering?
Say my name wrote: » Fair enough. But enforce it this time.
whelan2 wrote: » Anyone scan yet. Have scanner from icbf coming on Tuesday to scan the sexed seamen trial ones
Buford T. Justice V wrote: » Moderation on the forum was decided with the posters input a number of years ago. Tbh, it works well except in a few circumstances. It's not in my remit to decide the moderation policy on the forum, just to carry out the decisions from a few years ago. If you want to discuss moderation here, your first stop should be the Cmods where you can discuss where you feel the moderation isn't up to standard and the options open to you from there. What I will say, however, is from that feedback thread, it was decided to treat posters as adults(for want of a better term), and use persuasion and discussion as a means to return the discussion back on track before issuing any infractions to posters. Personally, I would be reluctant to leave that policy behind but that's a decision for others to make. TL;DR? Take it to Cmods.
Buford T. Justice V wrote: » Looking through my insemination list, I had 10 cows inseminated with sexed semen. Should be interesting to see the pregnancy rate from them.
whelan2 wrote: » I think it works well. Is there somewhere we can read the rules of the forum. I used to get annoyed at posts on here and closed my account. Boards is not the be all and end all of everything. If someone doesn't agree with your opinion, so what. There's plenty more to life than posting on an anonymous forum
whelan2 wrote: » I have 60. I said some have repeated. She said she has to scan the 60 of them. Will report the results back here on Tuesday
Mooooo wrote: » Over how many years are they going thru the trial? From lads I've spoken to it's nearly year to year the conception rates can vary, which they suggest was different batches having differing quality
Say my name wrote: » Edit: news just in I've gotten access to silage from 40 miles away. But needs must. That's a lot of pressure off for now.
farisfat wrote: » Dose anyone know the cost of production per litre for a indoor system on silage and meal.
kowtow wrote: » A few more weeks of this and most of us will know it to the penny!
farisfat wrote: Dose anyone know the cost of production per litre for a indoor system on silage and meal.
blackdog1 wrote: » All depends on silage quality. Need to feed more and higher protein if silage is average. Excellent quality silage will produce milk with 6-8kg of a good quality 18% plus protein nut in the parlour.
