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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

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brinty

Mitch Connor wrote: »

No it doesn't.

there is very little to indicate that it looks to be a done deal.

ONE source saying we have agreed a deal with him (same source saying we weren't interested in him at all a couple of weeks ago), which also states we have not agreed a fee with Juve - which is a HUGE step away from being a 'done deal'.

Mitch don't forget the person you responded to has "sources" in Turin.... so he knows more than all of us.. #delusions

I'd echo your sentiments though in reality agree a deal with a player (assuming we were allowed speak to them in the first place) is a long way from agreeing a deal with the club.

Lord TSC

Did Castles say we weren't interested? My thought is he's the only one been pushing it right since the season ended.

Cotts72

Mitch Connor wrote: »

No it doesn't.

there is very little to indicate that it looks to be a done deal.

ONE source saying we have agreed a deal with him (same source saying we weren't interested in him at all a couple of weeks ago), which also states we have not agreed a fee with Juve - which is a HUGE step away from being a 'done deal'.

Castles has been pushing this story last few weeks with no real updates, same story of the price/fee being the issue

bangkok

brinty wrote: »

Mitch don't forget the person you responded to has "sources" in Turin.... so he knows more than all of us.. #delusions

I'd echo your sentiments though in reality agree a deal with a player (assuming we were allowed speak to them in the first place) is a long way from agreeing a deal with the club.

No need to be smart

Adamocovic

Apologies if I missed it but didn't see any posts about Luke Shaw.

Him on his holidays attracted a lot of criticism and attention, people furious that he had let himself go enjoying his holidays rather than starting to put in an effort early and begin his training.

Then it emerges that he is in Dubai with our head of strength and conditioning Gary Walker training early one-to-one to prepare for the start of pre-season, and unless I missed it no real mention at all.

I know people will dismiss the relevance of it and use his perceived obesity as the base of their argument, but in reality he's doing exactly what many complained he wasn't a couple of days ago. Hopefully it's a sign of the work he will put in.

bangkok

Adamocovic wrote: »

Apologies if I missed it but didn't see any posts about Luke Shaw.

Him on his holidays attracted a lot of criticism and attention, people furious that he had let himself go enjoying his holidays rather than starting to put in an effort early and begin his training.

Then it emerges that he is in Dubai with our head of strength and conditioning Gary Walker training early one-to-one to prepare for the start of pre-season, and unless I missed it no real mention at all.

I know people will dismiss the relevance of it and use his perceived obesity as the base of their argument, but in reality he's doing exactly what many complained he wasn't a couple of days ago. Hopefully it's a sign of the work he will put in.

No because stuff like that doesnt make front pages in the sun newspaper

Trigger

Adamocovic wrote: »

Apologies if I missed it but didn't see any posts about Luke Shaw.

Him on his holidays attracted a lot of criticism and attention, people furious that he had let himself go enjoying his holidays rather than starting to put in an effort early and begin his training.

Then it emerges that he is in Dubai with our head of strength and conditioning Gary Walker training early one-to-one to prepare for the start of pre-season, and unless I missed it no real mention at all.

I know people will dismiss the relevance of it and use his perceived obesity as the base of their argument, but in reality he's doing exactly what many complained he wasn't a couple of days ago. Hopefully it's a sign of the work he will put in.

It was brought up that he wanted to stay and fight for his place rather than move on, I do think that people will dismiss it as they are fed up waiting on him to make his mark, even if he is putting in the work now, he still allowed himself to get into the position that he needs to do this..

I do say fair fecks to him for doing the one on one but also think it’s a too little too late situation especially with him only having a year left on his contract, waiting for him to come good could result in the club missing out on some cash

DM_7

Adamocovic wrote: »

Apologies if I missed it but didn't see any posts about Luke Shaw.

Him on his holidays attracted a lot of criticism and attention, people furious that he had let himself go enjoying his holidays rather than starting to put in an effort early and begin his training.

Then it emerges that he is in Dubai with our head of strength and conditioning Gary Walker training early one-to-one to prepare for the start of pre-season, and unless I missed it no real mention at all.

I know people will dismiss the relevance of it and use his perceived obesity as the base of their argument, but in reality he's doing exactly what many complained he wasn't a couple of days ago. Hopefully it's a sign of the work he will put in.

Or a sign United called him in a week early as he needs the head start?

Mitch Connor

Adamocovic wrote: »

Apologies if I missed it but didn't see any posts about Luke Shaw.

Him on his holidays attracted a lot of criticism and attention, people furious that he had let himself go enjoying his holidays rather than starting to put in an effort early and begin his training.

Then it emerges that he is in Dubai with our head of strength and conditioning Gary Walker training early one-to-one to prepare for the start of pre-season, and unless I missed it no real mention at all.

I know people will dismiss the relevance of it and use his perceived obesity as the base of their argument, but in reality he's doing exactly what many complained he wasn't a couple of days ago. Hopefully it's a sign of the work he will put in.

1. IMO he should be maintaining better fitness levels all summer.
2. We have heard the same personal training early pre-season stuff the last few summers with him - I'll believe he is dedicated to winning a starting spot when I see it in his consistent approach. I'm in a "we've heard it all before" state with him at the moment.

jayo26

Adamocovic wrote: »

Apologies if I missed it but didn't see any posts about Luke Shaw.

Him on his holidays attracted a lot of criticism and attention, people furious that he had let himself go enjoying his holidays rather than starting to put in an effort early and begin his training.

Then it emerges that he is in Dubai with our head of strength and conditioning Gary Walker training early one-to-one to prepare for the start of pre-season, and unless I missed it no real mention at all.

I know people will dismiss the relevance of it and use his perceived obesity as the base of their argument, but in reality he's doing exactly what many complained he wasn't a couple of days ago. Hopefully it's a sign of the work he will put in.

Glad to see he has started to pull his weight

Mitch Connor

Lord TSC wrote: »

Did Castles say we weren't interested? My thought is he's the only one been pushing it right since the season ended.

Thought he said a couple of weeks back that we weren't looking at a left back (after signing Dalot).

Could have got him mixed up with other journos though. If so, sorry - but general point remains, Castles saying we've agreed personal terms (and being the only one saying it afaik) is a long way off it looking like a done deal. It looked like more of a done deal prior to the CL final, to be honest.

xtal191

https://twitter.com/utdxtra/status/1014461142394171393

Lukker-

Castles said on his podcast that ye have agreed personal terms with Sandro. Best of luck to ye! Chelsea had agreed personal terms with him very early last summer and still couldn't get a deal done. Juve might be more willing to sell this season though as he very clearly had his head turned for the majority of last season, although his form did pick up.

Mitch Connor

Lukker- wrote: »

Castles said on his podcast that ye have agreed personal terms with Sandro. Best of luck to ye! Chelsea had agreed personal terms with him very early last summer and still couldn't get a deal done. Juve might be more willing to sell this season though as he very clearly had his head turned for the majority of last season, although his form did pick up.

Done deal.

Trigger

I love sarcasm

bangkok

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Done deal.

I said looks a done deal..

Mitch Connor

bangkok wrote: »

I said looks a done deal..

How can it look a done deal if its not a done deal?

bangkok

Mitch Connor wrote: »

How can it look a done deal if its not a done deal?

Same way fred looked a done deal 3 weeks ago when it wasnt a done deal.

Same way mahrez looks a done deal to city even though its not a done deal

Cotts72

bangkok wrote: »

Same way fred looked a done deal 3 weeks ago when it wasnt a done deal.

Same way mahrez looks a done deal to city even though its not a done deal

are you saying Jorginho isn't a done deal either???:):D;):pac:

paulbok

Cotts72 wrote: »

are you saying Jorginho isn't a done deal either???:):D;):pac:

He's a done dealio

Adamocovic

What's everyone's gripe with using the phrase "looks like a done deal"?

One of the most used phrases when it comes to footballing transfers. Even giving a quick search on the Football Forum shows up thousands of results.

Hope everyone is as captious towards all the other posts where it is used.

Trigger

Adamocovic wrote: »

What's everyone's gripe with using the phrase "looks like a done deal"?

One of the most used phrases when it comes to footballing transfers. Even giving a quick search on the Football Forum shows up thousands of results.

Hope everyone is as captious towards all the other posts where it is used.

Don’t think there is any problem with the phrase itself just the context it was used. Plus think only one person questioned it

Edit: just to add, when it’s used in the media most people as sceptical of it

Mitch Connor

Adamocovic wrote: »

What's everyone's gripe with using the phrase "looks like a done deal"?

One of the most used phrases when it comes to footballing transfers. Even giving a quick search on the Football Forum shows up thousands of results.

Hope everyone is as captious towards all the other posts where it is used.

My gripe with it was that it was used in relation to a deal that doesn't look anywhere close to being done.

Also (and to a different post) Fred looked a done deal a few weeks ago because it was. Contract signed, fee agreed, medical done, pictures done etc - just waiting for the work permit - no issue with that being called a done deal.

With Sandro we have:

Signed contract: No.
Medical done: No.
Fee agreed: No.
Media pictures done: No.
Interviews done: No.
Work Permit applied for: No.

In what world does that look like a done deal?

Rossi IRL

Mitch Connor wrote: »

My gripe with it was that it was used in relation to a deal that doesn't look anywhere close to being done.

Also (and to a different post) Fred looked a done deal a few weeks ago because it was. Contract signed, fee agreed, medical done, pictures done etc - just waiting for the work permit - no issue with that being called a done deal.

With Sandro we have:

Signed contract: No.
Medical done: No.
Fee agreed: No.
Media pictures done: No.
Interviews done: No.
Work Permit applied for: No.

In what world does that look like a done deal?

Because Twitter said so

Lord TSC

BBC saying Juve have offered 88m for Ronnie

I always thought if he left Real, it would be to us. I KNOW we don't need him. But still...

How Soon Is Now

Lord TSC wrote: »

BBC saying Juve have offered 88m for Ronnie

I always thought if he left Real, it would be to us. I KNOW we don't need him. But still...

Has to mean there's movement with Sandro then surely.

yabadabado

Rumours of Higuain to Chelsea, that would cover a good chunk of Ronaldo fee.

brinty

Is Ronaldo to Juve a real thing???
Surely at that price we just sign him and be done
Jersey sales in year one will recoup there

Mars Bar

StringerBell wrote: »

Happy birthday to the one and only Mars Bar!

brinty wrote: »

Happy birthday Mars, hope it's a great day

Thank you both!

I got a cramp in my hamstring for the first time so that's just an excellent start to being 29.

brinty

Mars Bar wrote:

Thank you both! I got a cramp in my hamstring for the first time so that's just an excellent start to being 29.

Ice and rest up

Wish I was 29 again
To be young like that