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Clare GAA discussion thread

eroo

Thought I'd start this thread as haven't found one of the same.

So, 2010.. new decade... new beginnings? With the aim of the League being to get back into Division 1, could Clare also achieve success in Munster this year?

The fixtures for 2010:

31.01.2010 Waterford v Clare(Waterford Crystal Cup SF)

21.02.2010 Clare v Down (NHL)
28.02.2010 Laois v Clare (NHL)
14.03.2010 Clare v Wexford (NHL)
21.03.2010 Antrim v Clare (NHL)
28.03.2010 Carlow v Clare (NHL)
04.04.2010 Clare v Westmeath (NHL)
18.04.2010 Kildare v Clare (NHL)

07.06.2010 Waterford v Clare (MHC)

As well as a proposed friendly versus Cork, Ger O'Loughlin has a good load of matches to blood players from U-21's into the senior game. With the opponents in the League not posing a major threat some would argue Clare wont get as much preparation as Div 1 teams, but maybe it will give them an opportunity to focus on their strength and conditioning?

So, Clare face Waterford on Sunday at 2pm in Ballyduff Upper.. I think they should win against this weakened Waterford side, but I think it will be close tbh. But could Waterford topple us in the pre season tournament?

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philip1526

Lads, Looking for a bit of help. I am heading to the Munster Final Sunday but have to head on to wexford afterwards. Anyone have any advice on where is best to park?

Clareman

philip1526 wrote: »

Lads, Looking for a bit of help. I am heading to the Munster Final Sunday but have to head on to wexford afterwards. Anyone have any advice on where is best to park?

You'd probably be better asking in the Tipp forum, but I'd be thinking park on the East of the town and aim towards the M8/9 afterwards. You'll be going away from all the traffic so you shouldn't have much hassle.

windy shepard henderson

philip1526 wrote: »

Lads, Looking for a bit of help. I am heading to the Munster Final Sunday but have to head on to wexford afterwards. Anyone have any advice on where is best to park?

I would recomend head in the direction of templetouhy , which leads you in the direction of Kilkenny , park near the Munster hotel which is near the bridge across from Hayes hotel , avoid heading out on to the moterway near horse and jockey as all the cork supports would be going that way

Clareman

Tickets were made available through Centra and Tickets. Ie from 6,don't know if they're left but thought people might be interested

letowski

I guess these are some of my thoughts about Sunday's game.

The bookies having this game at evens tells alot, I too think its a really hard game to call between two quite similarly built teams. I think Clare have a good chance of finally ending our 20 year wait for a Munster crown this weekend, but they have got to learn from their previous two meetings against Cork in the championship. Both those games featured bizarre in the extreme tactics, with last year's Munster final retreating out to the 40 on puckouts, and forcing going for goal on most of our scoring chances in the first round of the championship this year. Gerry O'Connor was in the paper this week saying that the big difference in their preparation this year was focusing more on themselves and not on the opposition. On Sunday, we have to play our own game, both those tactics were hugely responsible for our losses to Cork.

To be blunt really though, if Clare are going to win they have to bring it to Cork, in both a savage workrate and physical challenge. I have given the lads credit in recent weeks against both Tipp and Limerick for doing this, we saw it with the likes of SOD diving at the end of the Tipp game to stop the Tipp back getting the ball, or Podge laying out Condon in the Park against Limerick, Tony Kelly too ran 40 yards after Cian Lynch to win the ball back. That's the type of effort Clare need to bring against Cork, and to be truthful, it's the main reason Cork have had our number in the championship since '13. We have been letting the Cork backs all time and space they need, to pick out a nice diagonal ball to hop up for the likes of Horgan, Harnedy, Cadogan, etc. to run riot. Last year's Munster final allowing Nash to pick out free men on the 40 was one of the craziest tactics I seen in going to intercounty matches, our full back line was always going to be in trouble. I think our full back line this year is going well; we are probably looking at Patch on Horgan; Davy Mc on Harnedy and Browne on Kingston. I think the lads can give them enough of it, if the Cork backs are not giving them regular good ball inside. In the match against Cork this year, Clare's workrate was actually pretty good until we got that sucker punch of a goal by Lehane, we should really have been up by a lot more. Clare had the run on Cork up until then and we should take those positives and bring them to this game.

I think looking at the previous meeting, there is no doubt Malone @ 9, Duggan @ 10, Kelly @ 11 and Conlon @ 14 is a far, far superior combination than Malone @ 10, Duggan @ 14, Kelly @ 9 and Conlon @ 11. The players are in their better positions for sure and I expect this to have a more positive impact on our scoring return. That said, out of the full backs in the province; Cahalane, Casey, Coughlin and Kennedy; Damien Cahalane is definitely going to give John Conlon's his stiffest test. Cahalane has good movement and is a strong lad himself, but still, if we get good ball into John he is going to trouble anybody given his physique and talent. It will be interesting as always when Kelly lines up at 11, whether the opposition decide to follow him. If it is Christopher Joyce, and he does follow him, it will open up some space for Podge to work with. Podge has earned his spot on the team, but I'm still skeptical of what he can contribute in a tightly spaced forward line, if it opens up like it did in the second halves of the Limerick and Tipp game, he should make hay the way we know.

Overall I feel Clare are more ready for the Cork challenge than they realistically ever should be. I think we have got along way to fixing some glaring weakness such as free taking, discipline and goalkeeping and we should have learned alot from our last 2 defeats to Cork. As I said, I think it will be tight game but I have a feeling we will finally get the better of this Cork team. Here's hoping anyway.

keeponhurling

Here's hoping indeed.
As you say the free-taking and goalkeeping were big issues last year, and have improved immensely. And discipline, which is important with Horgan on the frees for Cork.
If we play like we did v Limerick the last day, with very sensible use of the ball, we will win.
If we play like we did at times in the Tipp and Cork games earlie this year, we won't win.
Ultimately as GOC says, it depends on our own performance on the day.

Clareman

I might be putting a hex on us, but our discipline has been great this season to date, very few yellow cards and no red cards, last year we seemed to be having someone sent off in every match. A major change as well has been the stopping of harassing of the ref after a decision, they are just getting on with it now.

finbarrk

Terrace tickets still available online.

keeponhurling

opinionated3 wrote: »

Whilst acknowledging that David reidy rightfully got his red card rescinded, was there any result of Moloneys appeal??

Clare co-manager Donal Moloney will not be on the sideline for Sunday’s Munster SHC final against Cork as the Central Hearings Committee (CHC) have upheld his recommended three-month ban.

The Irish Examiner understands the county board intend appealing the decision to the Central Appeals Committee on Moloney's behalf, but until such time the Scarriff man cannot play an active role for the Banner in Thurles.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/donal-moloney-sideline-ban-upheld-ahead-of-munster-final-clash-with-cork-851704.html

letowski

Clareman wrote:

I might be putting a hex on us, but our discipline has been great this season to date, very few yellow cards and no red cards, last year we seemed to be having someone sent off in every match. A major change as well has been the stopping of harassing of the ref after a decision, they are just getting on with it now.

Yeah we are defending much better this year with discipline, a good example of this is Jack Browne.

letowski

Funnily enough I always thought having some of the management high up in the stands is a good way of seeing the action like what they do in rugby. Donal mic'd up in the stand and Gerry on the line might work even better.

keeponhurling

It's handy having 2 managers, so when one is banned the other takes over.
Top planning.

Clareman

I always think that it's a good idea for a manager to be in the stand, you see so much more. The Mayo football manager normally watches the first half from the stand and then comes down for the second half.

Sterling Archer

Ya having anyone in the stand should be normal practice at this stage, just plant someone next to the teams cameraman, it's a completely different perspective on a game,
If it can be done with a manager all the better and I can't see why we don't do it. You have runners for a reason, to get the messages in, there is no real need to be on the line when the whole team is mic'd up.

Edna_Ennky

Seadna Morey starts for Clare as Donal and Gerry make no changes to the team that defeated Limerick, two weeks ago.

https://twitter.com/ClareSenHurlers/status/1012758021225795584

windy shepard henderson

keeponhurling wrote: »

Here's hoping indeed.
As you say the free-taking and goalkeeping were big issues last year, and have improved immensely. And discipline, which is important with Horgan on the frees for Cork.
If we play like we did v Limerick the last day, with very sensible use of the ball, we will win.
If we play like we did at times in the Tipp and Cork games earlie this year, we won't win.
Ultimately as GOC says, it depends on our own performance on the day.

agree with this , we were very lucky to get out of thurles alive , had we conceded that goal before ian galvin struck down the other end we would be out now and it would be limerick playing cork tomorrow

going back to the first game against cork , i taught we played well especially in the first half but wasted far too many chances , if we create the same amount of chances this time around i think we will win

i am basing that on the fact that our full forward line has changed completely and the move of conlon to full forward and duggan along with malone to midfield and kelly to the wing , kelly was out played in the game in cork and what many people dont seem to know is he struggles in midfield allot , even with his club , on the 40 suites him more

despite all the negatives the first day out we were still in the game heading into the dying minutes and there was only a few points in it , i would back us to come out of it if we are in the same situation this time around

the fact that the bandwagon is back for the first time in 5 years is a plus too , we must have some of either the laziest or the most negative supporters in the country last years turn out for the munster final was a disgrace

windy shepard henderson

Clare v Armagh

not looking forward to buying the program in the athletic grounds tomorrow afternoon , it seems colm colins has taken the same stance as keiran mcgeaney and decided not to announce his side until the other lad shows his hand:pac:

geezer made a full 15 changes earlier this year in the year from the official program ahead of a league game against fermanagh at home

this is a huge game for both sides with the winner with a real chance of making the super 8s ,while both set of backs might be shaky enough i would back us to have the better forwards and might just be enough to get us over the line

fair play to oisin mconville over the week for the time he gave clare media in the preview to this game both in print and on radio , top class man knows his stuff in fairness far better pundit then one or two on rte especially on radio one , he has us tipped to fall short though tomorrow

one thing the players were critical last week was there was no water break in tullamore , it was every bit as hot as today up in the midlands last week surly if conditions continue commonsense will prevail tomorrow , the supporters ar not conditioned for this weather let alone the players :rolleyes:

Gael85

Edna_Ennky wrote: »

Seadna Morey starts for Clare as Donal and Gerry make no changes to the team that defeated Limerick, two weeks ago.

https://twitter.com/ClareSenHurlers/status/1012758021225795584

Are Cian Dillon, Cathal McInerney and Paul Flanagan still on panel?

Clareman

Safe driving tomorrow, I hope you have air conditioning in the car

Gael85

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

Clare v Armagh

not looking forward to buying the program in the athletic grounds tomorrow afternoon , it seems colm colins has taken the same stance as keiran mcgeaney and decided not to announce his side until the other lad shows his hand:pac:

geezer made a full 15 changes earlier this year in the year from the official program ahead of a league game against fermanagh at home

this is a huge game for both sides with the winner with a real chance of making the super 8s ,while both set of backs might be shaky enough i would back us to have the better forwards and might just be enough to get us over the line

fair play to oisin mconville over the week for the time he gave clare media in the preview to this game both in print and on radio , top class man knows his stuff in fairness far better pundit then one or two on rte especially on radio one , he has us tipped to fall short though tomorrow

one thing the players were critical last week was there was no water break in tullamore , it was every bit as hot as today up in the midlands last week surly if conditions continue commonsense will prevail tomorrow , the supporters ar not conditioned for this weather let alone the players :rolleyes:

Ridiculous rule Clare having to travel up to Armagh. Big plus having Kevin Harnett back in action. If he nulify Andy Murnin Clare have good chance of winning. The bench will be vital tomorrow with the warm weather and lads will need step up when brought on.

windy shepard henderson

Gael85 wrote: »

Ridiculous rule Clare having to travel up to Armagh. Big plus having Kevin Harnett back in action. If he nulify Andy Murnin Clare have good chance of winning. The bench will be vital tomorrow with the warm weather and lads will need step up when brought on.

barr the kerry debacle we have had a really good year especially with squad rotation it was the winning of the game in the end for us last week in the heat ,

as for the division 3 rule yeah it is a balls considering we were first out and both teams are going to be strong enough in division 2 next year , but in armagh's defense this is there first game all year against a team above division 3 so in truth maybe 3 years ago we would have taken the same break , still think we will win though , expect it to be high scoring as both sides dont normally do defending

Hibrasil

Half Time in the Orchard ....Armagh 0-7 Clare 0-9

Clareman

All from play for Clare, only 3 from play for Armagh

Boots234

Clare were 1-15 to 1-11 up at one stage in the second half but ended up losing 2-16 to 1-15

windy shepard henderson

Boots234 wrote: »

Clare were 1-15 to 1-11 up at one stage in the second half but ended up losing 2-16 to 1-15

Last 5-minutes the Armagh bench kicked into gear , we were dead on our feet at that stage and had nothing left , great effort in fairness pitty we couldn't have seen the game out , but all in all a fairly good year concidering how many injuries we had earlier in the year , division 2 status consolidated and a qualifer win has to be seen as a descent year for the footballers but we can achieve better in the coming years I think

phkk

Anybody need 3 terrace tickets for today. Friend of mine off loading them. We're in Limerick now

Edna_Ennky

Serious question marks about our tactical approach in the 2nd half. Once again like 12 months ago when the Clare team needed strong leadership on the sideline, Gerry O'Connor and his management team failed the players. Our great team back in '13 when everyone was saying that Clare were the second coming, back then, don't seem so good now. The sideline costed us in 2017 and sadly the same applies in 2018. Disappointing and frustrating, are an understatement right now, to what I'm feeling at the moment.

jackboy

Edna_Ennky wrote: »

Serious question marks about our tactical approach in the 2nd half. Once again like 12 months ago when the Clare team needed strong leadership on the sideline, Gerry O'Connor and his management team failed the players. Our great team back in '13 when everyone was saying that Clare were the second coming, back then, don't seem so good now. The sideline costed us in 2017 and sadly the same applies in 2018. Disappointing and frustrating, are an understatement right now, to what I'm feeling at the moment.

What could be done from the sideline though? Energy levels were shot after the efforts in the first twenty minutes. Can't sustain that on a warm today.

The White Feather

jackboy wrote: »

What could be done from the sideline though? Energy levels were shot after the efforts in the first twenty minutes. Can't sustain that on a warm today.

I would agree with that too but as a Cork supporter when I saw Shane O'Donnell taken off I breathed a sigh of relief. He either scores or creates goals for others. I think taking him off was a mistake unless he was injured of course

Edna_Ennky

jackboy wrote: »

What could be done from the sideline though? Energy levels were shot after the efforts in the first twenty minutes. Can't sustain that on a warm today.

Whatever about the Shane O'Donnell substitution, he was anonymous today, can anyone please explain why David Reidy did to deserve getting subbed in the second half. He was outstanding in the first 35 minutes. Crazy stuff by Gerry and the management team.

But the telling statistic that will infuriate Clare fans is between the time Clare went 2-11 to 0-9 in the 34th minute, Cork outscored Clare 2-15 to 0-8 between the time the rebels scored their 1st goal and the 71st minute, before Galvin's late goal put undeserved gloss in the scoreline, from a Clare point of view.

So overall very disappointing indeed. Wexford likely next for the Banner in the quarter-final, will feel that they smell blood, providing they beat Westmeath in the next round. It would be of no surprise to me if Davy Fitzgerald's men were to be victorious over Clare. After the euphoria of the Limerick win, I feel that there will be a lot of soul-searching over the coming week. What a downer.