Stonedpilot wrote: » I dont hate rugby enjoy it and been to many games! You can be flippant too on these pal bern to Ireland v New Zealand Ireland v Australia Ireland v Wales etc etc I see it was entertainment not something to define masculinity with. A good 80 mins of entertainment. Nothing more or less. Never called em meatheads. Go on with your agenda or whatever your at or on but didnt type that.
Dr Graham Love, chief executive of the Higher Education Authority, said overall there were positive trends. However, he said high non-progression rates on some diploma and honours degree courses in computing, engineering and construction remain a worry. “The majority of these students are male. They may learn in a different way and I am glad that the new apprenticeships model is responding to that way of learning,” he said.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Really interesting chat on Real Time with Bill Maher this week. Dan Savage was talking with Bill about the INCELS and how dangerous they are. Dan said it’s one of the reasons why sexual work should be decriminalised and destigmatised. He mentioned a guy who’s quadriplegic and he pays for sex because he’s unlikely to ever have sex otherwise because he’s physically disabled. Some people are socially disabled and are unlikely to have sex without paying for it. Instead we have bitter people who are rejected by society because they can’t fit in and that sometimes turns into violence. Food for thought.
Calhoun wrote: » Food for thought on what ? Disenfranchised people turning to extremism ? Well I never it's not like it ever happened before in our history ever. On the incels thing I had seen online there are now witch hunts against young single men in some companies in America.
iptba wrote: » Here's the latest batch of gender-related hashtags I have noticed trending for anyone interested (I know some are not) (Aside: I'm not on Twitter 24/7 of course and don't look back at lists for when I wasn't on) Women's Academyhttps://planetwomanacademy.com/ Also a few days later: #planetwoman #GirlCrewPro "GirlCrew is a platform for women to make new friends. Not keen on going to a concert solo? Find a crew with us. Want to book a vacation but your friends are all coupled up? Find a group of girls to travel with here." (Seems fairly harmless) #swipi2018 Society for Women in Philosophy Ireland Conference A lot of it seems to be about feminismhttp://www.swip-ireland.com/index.php/events/6th-annual-conference #BeOneInspireOne Be One Inspire One - Celebrating Successful Irish Women. We're looking forward to joining Orna Mulcahy and a panel of inspirational speakers in @RobertasDublin this morning #BeOneInspireOnehttps://twitter.com/SparkIRL/status/999189392655900672https://twitter.com/emesmc/status/999189103295025152
JRant wrote: » Methinks Joyce Walsh is talking through her hoop. I'll be 77 before idiots like her stop peddling ymthis myth.
Each and every one of us knows a Mark Hennessy Saturday, May 26, 2018 - 12:00 AM The man and the crime did not match, we could not reconcile the two, for we all know a Mark Hennesy, writes Joyce Fegan
WE ALL know a Mark Hennessy, we just pretend to ourselves we don’t. The white, middle class, middle-aged father of two — who doesn’t wear his criminality on his sleeve. He has us all conned. We play golf with him. We go for pints with him. We sit across from him in the office. We meet him on Saturday mornings at the kids’ soccer practice. We might even invite him inside our family home. We all know a Mark Hennessy, we just never really know what lurks beneath that Joe Bloggs surface.
iptba wrote: » https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/each-and-every-one-of-us-knows-a-mark-hennessy-845128.html The (female) journalist mentions four convicted individuals. They all have one thing in common, they are male. I wonder would a newspaper be equally likely to publish such an article on four women (incl. by a man) and phrase it as such.
Pawwed Rig wrote: » Hennessy is a 1 in a million type. We all most definitely do not know people like him unless we are now trying to marginalise the slightly social awkward middle aged man and assume he is a potential murderer.
backspin. wrote: » I'm not clicking on the article. What is her point. Yes we all do probably know a Hennessey. We don't know what he will do or how we would stop him doing what he did. That's reality.
professore wrote: » We all know a man who would murder a young girl for kicks???? Emmm no we don't. This type of person is extremely rare. We all know abusive assholes. The same ones women chase after and fight over. I'll grant you that.
backspin. wrote: » We all know an average of about a 1000 people. The chances are one of them is a monster capable of doing what Hennessey did. My point is how the hell are we supposed to know which one let alone how to stop them. There is a ridiculous notion among some feminists that men as a whole are responsible for people like Hennessy and if we'd only just call them out when we hear them say a sexist joke or have a quiet word with them over a pint then all will be well. It's completely silly.
Government apologises for hurt and stigma inflicted on gay men The Government has apologised to thousands of gay men criminalised by the State for their sexuality and for the hurt and stigma inflicted on them and their families. Minister for Justice Charlie Flanagan offered a State apology to the men for the effect of laws denying them the right to live without fear and for the failure of tolerance in Irish society. Taoiseach Leo Varadkar admitted the apology would not erase the wrong that was done but said society had learned from the men’s suffering.
masculinist wrote: » Why is there women's issue spam in a men's rights thread ?
iptba wrote: » Government apologises for hurt and stigma inflicted on gay men The Government has apologised to thousands of gay men criminalised by the State for their sexuality and for the hurt and stigma inflicted on them and their families. Minister for Justice Charlie Flanagan offered a State apology to the men for the effect of laws denying them the right to live without fear and for the failure of tolerance in Irish society. Taoiseach Leo Varadkar admitted the apology would not erase the wrong that was done but said society had learned from the men’s suffering. Continues at:https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/government-apologises-for-hurt-and-stigma-inflicted-on-gay-men-1.3536709
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » I was listening to a podcast which discussed the INCEL movement (men who can’t get women so they call them selves involuntary celibate) I looked up a few videos online and I have to say I was moved. I don’t have much time hit the misogyny or the bitterness towards other people. But reading between the lines, I think their videos constitute a massive cry got help. There are lots of surface level problems like the fact that they put way too much emphasis on sex as the defining factor in their self worth. But what was plain to see was that the fellas are in a lot of pain. Some of them attribute their lack of success to their looks but the one thing they have in common is they’re socially inept for one reason or another. I heard Dan Savage describe them as socially disabled which I though was an interesting description. What can realistically be done to help these men?
silverharp wrote: » with the caveat that I assume this is a tiny % of young men of a country that has a large population, firstly i would say that nobody is realistically an involuntary celibate (leaving aside anyone that has problems because they have a diagnosable mental or physical issues). i would guess most of them are young and just slow starters who missed out of some basic life advice.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » I think autism type disorders are common. More accurately, they are socially inept in some way which is bound to include a lot of autistic people or people with autistic traits. So incel isn’t a diagnosable thing, but the things that that make them unable to get a partner, might be. In any case, what can or should realistically be done to help them?
silverharp wrote: » hence my caveat , autism or aspergers would be a large impediment to traditional dating i'd imagine. Standard age old advice, improve themselves or maybe they have just learned some poor or entitled expectations and patterns of thinking
Deleted User wrote: » Or they've been unlucky in those women they've approached for dating, or dating experiences themselves. It tends to be glossed over just how brutal many young women can be towards men she's not interested in, and a lot of negative behavior towards boys, can simply be to gain points with her group of friends. The general problem with dating is that a huge percentage of responsibility for success is laid at the feet of the male. He does the approach, the initial flirting, and the chasing afterward. Some young women might take control but most don't. It's slightly different as women get older/experienced and have more confidence but even then most women wait for the male to make all the moves, while the woman sits back in judgment of the whole process. I've had horrible experiences in approaching women when I was a teenager and again in my 20s (even thinking back I shudder at the shame and humiliation involved). It's one of the main reasons I don't tend to date western women now. So, no, I'd place a fair amount of responsibility for the way these guys feel... on the women they've known while developing. A little social responsibility for how they treat boys would go a long way. There's very little in the way of positive encouragement for boys to learn dating. Perhaps it's different now, but I suspect it isn't. Either you learn quickly, have a natural talent in the area, or you're "a loser". And from the behavior of young women on TV or seeing my nieces grow into adults, I don't think things have really improved any for boys.
silverharp wrote: » but i can see that some guys fall through the cracks and never see an upside. I would say they should watch a jordon peterson play list and think on it but i dont want to trigger duderino
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