Outlaw Pete wrote: » Some of whom were...women who received a prenatal abnormality diagnosis and who were treated for sepsis here while pregnant. Not so easy to sneer at these people and label them 'three men and a nun' or suggest it's easy for them given they're at the "least risk of dying from it".
spookwoman wrote: » They knew on the Sunday she was having a miscarriage. They knew she was having a "inevitable/impending pregnancy loss" but because there was a heart beat they did not perform an abortion as requested.Sunday 21st of October 2012: This entry was timed as at 14.20HRS within the medical record O&G SpR 1 recalled at interview that the patient was actively having pain and that “it was probably a matter of hours before miscarriage”. The management option considered by O&G SpR 1 and discussed with the patient was “conservative management, wait and see what would happen naturally” and that “no other forms of management were discussed”. O&G SpR (Specialist Registrar) 1 documented that these findings were discussed with the patient and her partner. O&G SpR 1 recalled at interview discussing with the patient and her husband that the pregnancy was not viable. O&G SpR 1 did not recall a discussion including options to speed up the process of inevitable miscarriage. O&G SpR 1 recalled leaving review room as “the couple wanted time alone”.Sunday 21st of October 2012: (Untimed. Between 15.00HRS and 17.00HRS Approx) Staff Midwife 2 who had seen the patient earlier in the day documented that the patient had been admitted at 17 weeks gestation with a history of abdominal pain. Staff Midwife 2 documented that the patient had been reviewed by SHO (Senior House Officer) 1 and O&G Specialist Registrar 1 and that a speculum examination had been carried out and the findings indicated the presence of bulging membranes almost to the introitus and that the cervix was not felt. The documented diagnosis for handover to the night staff was of an inevitable/impending pregnancy loss and that the fetal heart was heard using a sonicaid in the presence of the Senior House Officer. To give the patient privacy the nursing staff arranged for the patient to be admitted to a single room in the gynaecology ward (Women experiencing miscarriage are generally not treated on wards with other obstetric patients).Sunday 21st of October 2012: 16.50HRS Staff Midwife 2 stated that the patient “was very upset, she was crying, and I would have been very sympathetic and they knew I was there to help in any way, I said ‘if there’s anything I can do please ask me’…her distress was more noticeable when I went down to the room, I offered pethidine for pain and she accepted”. Staff Midwife 2 documented (in the note written at a time between 15.00hrs and 17.00hrs) that the patient was administered analgesia - pethidine 75mgs and an antiemetic - Stemetil 12.5mgs at 16.50 hrs. Staff Nurse/Midwife 2 stated at interview that whilst the patient was in pain, she did not have the appearance of a sick woman and the level of pain she was experiencing was usual for patients experiencing inevitable pregnancy loss. Sunday 21st of October 2012: 21.00HRS Staff Midwife 3 (night staff) stated that (s)he visited the patient’s room at 21.00 hrs. Staff Midwife 3 documented in an untimed ward round report that (s)he recalled completing at approximately 21.00 hrs that the patient was admitted with a history of abdominal pain at 17 weeks. She had been seen by the registrar and, on speculum examination, bulging membranes could be seen at the introitus and no cervix was felt. The impression was that of an inevitable/impending miscarriage and that cervical suture was not appropriate. The fetal heart had been heard with sonicaid. Also documented in the notes was that the findings had been discussed with patient and husband. An IV cannula was sited in the left hand and bloods had been taken for full blood count and group and hold (in case blood transfusion will be required). Vital signs were stable early nocte. No per vagina (PV) loss. Declined analgesia and denies pain at present. The patient’s husband was noted as staying in the room with his wife overnight.
DickSwiveller wrote: » http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2018/05/its-hour-come-round-at-last-reflections-on-the-abortion-referendum-in-ireland.html Interesting blog post by Peter Hitchens
Fighting Tao wrote: » Ah come on. Not the daily fail!
DickSwiveller wrote: » He rights for the Mail on Sunday
DickSwiveller wrote: Interesting blog post by Peter Hitchens
Technocentral wrote: » Is that the pro Brexit, anti gay equality, far right bloke?
Fighting Tao wrote: » Sister paper.
DickSwiveller wrote: The person you disagree with, yes.
DickSwiveller wrote: » The person you disagree with, yes.
Technocentral wrote: » Your facile answer to every critisism because you have nothing else to say.
DubInMeath wrote: » Probably why you voted no, birds of a feather and all that?
Fighting Tao wrote: » I find it weird that medical "professionals" in Savitas case would go on about Ireland being a catholic country and not adhere to the 5th commandment...Thou shalt not kill. By not terminating the pregnancy, they broke the commandment and killed her. I suppose god forgives them once they confess. If it were me I would have no problem going against the constitution to save a life. The situation is fcuked up.
DickSwiveller wrote: » Wow, you people are very touchy. I just thought it was an interesting read.
Overheal wrote: » Cool story, bro.
DubInMeath wrote: » Not really very happy with the result, what about yourself happy or not?
DickSwiveller wrote: » Sorry I don't speak American.
DickSwiveller wrote: » No I'm not. Should I be silenced.
DickSwiveller wrote: » You're far too intolerant of people who disagree with you. It's dangerous.
Billy86 wrote: » I'm not expert on the ins and outs of the bible, but they more 'let her die' than killed her.
Billy86 wrote: » You are not being silenced - you had your vote. A lot more people voted the other way. Therefore their agenda is the one that will pass. You are free to talk all you like. But nobody is obligated to agree, listen, take notice, or adhere as democracy has already spoken for you, for me, and for the entire country.
Fighting Tao wrote: » But they choose not to save her, therefore killing her.
DickSwiveller wrote: » I just linked to a ****in column and straight away the mob attacked. Forget it.
DickSwiveller wrote: » I just linked to a ****in column and made a bunch of one liners at people then ran out of anything substantial to say. Forget it.
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