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Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

Ozymandius2011

This is for people who have already voted in the referendum. How did you vote? I voted yes.

Mod: This thread is little more than a survey about how you voted. Please don't the ins and outs of abortion.

Mod: This is not a reiteration of the previous 8th threads. If you were threadbanned from those, you are not threadbanned here.

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Lucy8080

It's over to the yes side now! I was a soft yes, my O.H. was a soft no. We both had reservations about whether we made the right call.

There should be no celebrations here. We know the stats. about abortions being handed to the U.K. to deal with. For me, that was something unfair on the U.K.

IF this ref. was not about abortion, ( the yes side convinced me of that and swung my pencil) let's prove it.

Sex education , choices (why we make them,fail to make them) need to be faced and talked about.

This result will be a victory for all, if abortion rates diminish, whilst women in difficult situations have some space to make choices here at home.

FrancieBrady

Lucy8080 wrote: »

It's over to the yes side now! I was a soft yes, my O.H. was a soft no. We both had reservations about whether we made the right call.

There should be no celebrations here. We know the stats. about abortions being handed to the U.K. to deal with. For me, that was something unfair on the U.K.

IF this ref. was not about abortion, ( the yes side convinced me of that and swung my pencil) let's prove it.

Sex education , choices (why we make them,fail to make them) need to be faced and talked about.

This result will be a victory for all, if abortion rates diminish, whilst women in difficult situations have some space to make choices here at home.

We have grown up as a country and stopped exporting moral problems we don't want to deal with.

That is a cause for celebration all day long for any true democrat.

Lucy8080

FrancieBrady wrote: »

We have grown up as a country and stopped exporting moral problems we don't want to deal with.

That is a cause for celebration all day long for any true democrat.

We have taken responsibility for ourselves , I agree, I won't celebrate until I see how we exercise it.

erica74

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

You voted yes and never pondered how it could be abused??

I’d say there’s many many yes voters in the same situation.

Lucky we have your almighty wisdom to set us all straight.

Sofiztikated

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

You voted yes and never pondered how it could be abused??

I’d say there’s many many yes voters in the same situation.

Ah, so the majority of Yes voters are ignorant, and only No voters can see the truth.

Gotcha.

ted1

tvc15 wrote: »

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

I didn’t vote yes for abortion to be used like a late morning after pill either.

I would hope that the Governments legislation will be enough to deter people from abusing this change.

If the vote is as overwhelming as it seems (people might be surprised) then the government absolutely have to go through with 12 weeks unrestricted and allow for ffa etc after. Don't pretend like people were fooled by trendy badges, that's exactly the type of weaseling that is meant to belittle young people and women who will actually be affected by the legislation

People in this country do not see prevention of abortion as more important than a woman's choice anymore so we can't make them jump through unnecessary hoops to get what we now agree is their right

They might have an issue garnishing support for their bill from the party propping them up ad their leader was a no man

lawred2

bubblypop wrote: »

How do you abuse abortion?

You know, spend your time getting impregnated and then get yourself one of those abortions

nullzero

The Golden Miller wrote: »

I'd believe many are, I've never seen so much conforming by any generation ever. Dumbed down totally by narcissism, arrogant enough to believe every pre-conditioned opinion is an "educated" one because they're in college, this kind of false hollow "aren't we all best friends, aren't we all great, let's show the world how progressive we are" vibe, and it's all for show. Total narcissism, and I'm only a few years ahead of this crowd. All "home to vote" ye, aren't we the best, don't care about the "boring fiscal or health stuff" though, when there's no pat on the back

Abortions on demand is so trendy, not being able to afford a house and there being none available is even trendier, woo progress.

kneemos

ted1 wrote: »

They might have an issue garnishing support for their bill from the party propping them up ad their leader was a no man

Micheal Martin went against his party to support the yes side.

Ain't no politician going to go against a two thirds majority anyway.

HONKEY TONK

bubblypop wrote: »

How do you abuse abortion?

By having multiple abortions like it’s being treated like an inconvenience.

I voted yes so women with no other choice but to have an abortion can have one.

I did not vote yes for abortion to be treated like a removal of a wart.

This is why I would encourage the government to have clear legislation on this topic.

While others have different opinions. This is why I voted

lawred2

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

If you want my opinion I will give it.

In my experience A lot of them were and are ignorant and also they refused to face up to realities preferring instead to focus on badges and stickers and sound bites.

How do I know this-I talked to LOTS of them and lots-not all-were pretty ignorant on the facts.

And I know it’s completely uncool and almost taboo to even mildly question the yes side but anyway, whatever. That’s my opinion. Take it or leave it.

Leave it.

fxotoole

Shurimgreat wrote: »

No. Wearing a condom to prevent a pregnancy you are not prepared for is the responsible thing.

Condoms are nowhere near 100% reliable

FrancieBrady

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

If you want my opinion I will give it.

In my experience A lot of them were and are ignorant and also they refused to face up realities preferring instead to focus on badges and stickers and sound bites.

How do I know this-I talked to LOTS of them and lots-not all-were pretty ignorant on the facts.

And I know it’s completely uncool and almost taboo to even mildly question the yes side but anyway, whatever.

The people who 'didn't face up to realities' were those who would not face the fact that abortion has taken place in this country for centuries.

The days of restricting choice because of what are largely religious based beliefs are firmly over in this country.

Timberrrrrrrr

fxotoole wrote: »

Condoms are nowhere near 100% reliable

That poster already knows this. Actually suggested using four yes FOUR types of contraception at once to prevent pregnancy lol

When asked to name 4 that could be all used at the same time the poster was stumped

LirW

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

By having multiple abortions like it’s being treated like an inconvenience.

I voted yes so women with no other choice but to have an abortion can have one.

I did not vote yes for abortion to be treated like a removal of a wart.

This is why I would encourage the government to have clear legislation on this topic.

While others have different opinions. This is why I voted

I hope you are aware that the vast majority opting for a termination won't have another one ever again. There might be the odd case but if you don't know how the whole emotional process goes when you decide for it you'd be aware that the very most of them do everything to never go back. It's not that an abortion is a fun and games thing to do if you've ever been in the situation.

nullzero

Lucy8080 wrote: »

It's over to the yes side now! I was a soft yes, my O.H. was a soft no. We both had reservations about whether we made the right call.

There should be no celebrations here. We know the stats. about abortions being handed to the U.K. to deal with. For me, that was something unfair on the U.K.

IF this ref. was not about abortion, ( the yes side convinced me of that and swung my pencil) let's prove it.

Sex education , choices (why we make them,fail to make them) need to be faced and talked about.

This result will be a victory for all, if abortion rates diminish, whilst women in difficult situations have some space to make choices here at home.

Abortion rates will rise because that's what happens when you make unrestricted abortions available anywhere in the world,we're being sensationally naive if we believe otherwise.
I firmly believe that we needed to repeal the eight amendment because is wasn't fit for purpose, but we've gone and thrown the baby out with the bath water(I know).
I think we all know that with Ireland's track record for health care we're going to make a might mess of implementing a functioning system around this.

facehugger99

Great to see the country changing so much over my lifetime.

When I went to college in the early 90's, homosexuality was illegal, there was no divorce and when Trinity installed a condom vending machine in the students union, there was quite the hoo-ha.

Catholic orthodoxy had a vice like grip of this country for generations and strangled the life out of so many with it's hateful anti-sexual agenda.

Hopefully in a few years we'll have prised it out of the education system all together.

dav3

It goes to show how much some TDs are out of touch with the people of this country. Proof of this is the way some of them balked and acted when the results of the citizens assembly were released.

Some TDs will have to reassess where they are going in their career and life. There are certain TDs so out of touch with their own party and it's members, they would probably be better off on the sinking ship that is Fianna Fail.

This was a resounding yes across all ages, not just the young.

As you walk around today, you can take comfort in the fact that around 7 out of 10 people that you see, that you talk to, will have voted yes. Perhaps even more in some areas.

Annabella1

There will be a lot of resource implications here
Access to doctors /access to scans/ access to counselling services

Government will face the reality of setting up abortion clinics like in the uk which will eat out of the health budget

I am a yes voter btw

erica74

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

That poster already knows this.

And I think we did quite a good job, across 4 threads, of educating people on contraception. I always find it ironic how the people who say "ugh just use contraception!" as if you're stupid, are actually the ones who don't understand how it works (or doesn't work as the case may be).

I hope that we have managed to disperse the myths about contraception that may have been the cause of a few unwanted pregnancies.

Timberrrrrrrr

nullzero wrote: »

Abortion rates will rise because that's what happens when you make unrestricted abortions available anywhere in the world,we're being sensationally naive if we believe otherwise.
I firmly believe that we needed to repeal the eight amendment because is wasn't fit for purpose, but we've gone and thrown the baby out with the bath water(I know).
I think we all know that with Ireland's track record for health care we're going to make a might mess of implementing a functioning system around this.

Well seeing as the numbers are in single digits at the moment and there are circa 3k women travelling to the UK a year then of course numbers will rise!!! :confusion:

Are you claiming that numbers will rise year on year and if so can you post evidence to back up this claim?

nullzero

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

If you want my opinion I will give it.

In my experience A lot of them were and are ignorant and also they refused to face up to realities preferring instead to focus on badges and stickers and sound bites.

How do I know this-I talked to LOTS of them and lots-not all-were pretty ignorant on the facts.

And I know it’s completely uncool and almost taboo to even mildly question the yes side but anyway, whatever. That’s my opinion. Take it or leave it, I don’t care either way.

The detailed instruction videos on how to walk into a polling center and mark a ballot paper correctly made me wince, we have an extra 100k plus people on the electoral register who'll never be seen in a polling station ever again.

ted1

LirW wrote: »

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

By having multiple abortions like it’s being treated like an inconvenience.

I voted yes so women with no other choice but to have an abortion can have one.

I did not vote yes for abortion to be treated like a removal of a wart.

This is why I would encourage the government to have clear legislation on this topic.

While others have different opinions. This is why I voted

I hope you are aware that the vast majority opting for a termination won't have another one ever again. There might be the odd case but if you don't know how the whole emotional process goes when you decide for it you'd be aware that the very most of them do everything to never go back. It's not that an abortion is a fun and games thing to do if you've ever been in the situation.

34% will have second one. Many will be because of FFA, many will be because they didn’t use effective contraception like those pushed by the church , pulling out, temperature method etc

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-18249026

Timberrrrrrrr

Annabella1 wrote: »

There will be a lot of resource implications here
Access to doctors /access to scans/ access to counselling services

Government will face the reality of setting up abortion clinics like in the uk which will eat out of the health budget

I am a yes voter btw

There will be no need for clinics as the majority of terminations will be via a visit to gp and taking 2 pills.

nullzero

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Well seeing as the numbers are in single digits at the moment and there are circa 3k women travelling to the UK a year then of course numbers will rise!!! :confusion:

Are you claiming that numbers will rise year on year and if so can you post evidence to back up this claim?

I never said there will be year on year rises. This is what has gotten to me the most in this "debate" you can't make a simple point without somebody completely misquoting you. Read my post, where did I say year on year rises?

rockatansky

I see ths from a few 'This result shouldn't be celebrated'

The No side is determined to force their opinion on everyone else.

You lost, big time. Deal with it.

Hellrazer

Annabella1 wrote: »

Government will face the reality of setting up abortion clinics like in the uk which will eat out of the health budget

I hope they don't do that. The No posters with the supposed dead babies on them will be recommissioned so the 30% that didn't want it can have their say again when they protest outside the clinics!!!

eeepaulo

What to do now, once the vote is confirmed do we email all our local TDs and ask how they are going to approach legislating for abortion?

Focus the mind.

Mac-Chops

Lucy8080 wrote: »

It's over to the yes side now! I was a soft yes, my O.H. was a soft no. We both had reservations about whether we made the right call.

There should be no celebrations here. We know the stats. about abortions being handed to the U.K. to deal with. For me, that was something unfair on the U.K.

IF this ref. was not about abortion, ( the yes side convinced me of that and swung my pencil) let's prove it.

Sex education , choices (why we make them,fail to make them) need to be faced and talked about.

This result will be a victory for all, if abortion rates diminish, whilst women in difficult situations have some space to make choices here at home.

This.

I hope to see even a small fraction of the passion put in to this process converted in to a drive for socioeconomic change.

The chastising from both sides has really brought the worst out in some people and I feel a great sense of relief this morning now that it's done.

Timberrrrrrrr

nullzero wrote: »

I never said there will be year on year rises. This is what has gotten to me the most in this "debate" you can't make a simple point without somebody completely misquoting you. Read my post, where did I say year on year rises?

So they will rise because we are going from single digit abortion stats to women having terminations here instead of the UK. So really you are pointing out the obvious!

Or did you mean something else when you said numbers will rise?