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DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

Thank god they kept one dimensional Ken out of it

I think he’s on compassionate leave due to the untimely death of his daughter. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5473521/Bill-Roaches-daughter-died-liver-failure.html

CollyFlower

I was surprised at how David opened up to Shona, really didn't expect that from him.

Postgrad10

CollyFlower wrote: »

I was surprised at how David opened up to Shona, really didn't expect that from him.

He really was back to himself when he ran to console Maria.

JP Liz V1

Did Aidan kill himself at Johnny's flat as I thought he was living with Kate and Alya after moving from the Nazir's house or had he his own flat, what flat was this, Dev's?

I know it is a stupid question to ask after such a powerful few episodes but curiousity

Sinead Mc1

What an episode. Had me in bits. Thought the scene where Carla arrived at the flat was very moving.. bracing herself before she walked in to the bathroom then gently telling Johnny to come away from the body. Dunno, just found that really sad.
I liked Carla tonight. I think her reaction was typical of her no nonsense character. She was holding things together for everyone else.

redduvet

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Did Aidan kill himself at Johnny's flat as I thought he was living with Kate and Alya after moving from the Nazir's house or had he his own flat, what flat was this, Dev's?

I know it is a stupid question to ask after such a powerful few episodes but curiousity

Pretty sure that he got his own flat recently after he got back on his feet (financially at least), but not sure whose.

I noticed that he hadn't bothered unpacking anything, that being another one of the several subtle indicators that was shown.

Hannibal_Smith

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Did Aidan kill himself at Johnny's flat as I thought he was living with Kate and Alya after moving from the Nazir's house or had he his own flat, what flat was this, Dev's?

I know it is a stupid question to ask after such a powerful few episodes but curiousity

No. It was his own place. I can't remember is it somewhere Carla organised for him, or it wasn't where him and Eva used to live was it?

Hannibal_Smith

Sinead Mc1 wrote: »

Thought the scene where Carla arrived at the flat was very moving.. bracing herself before she walked in to the bathroom then gently telling Johnny to come away from the body. Dunno, just found that really sad.

That's what started me off....'Come away now Johnny', or whatever she said. Very quiet but very moving.

OfTheMarsWongs

Thought tonight was very well done for the most part.

If I’d had seen a picture (out of context), of the actors that play Johnny & Eva, I’d have thought someone belong to them had died in RL. Superb acting.

Didn’t like Gail’s monologue though. Was like something out of the Joey Tribiani Acting Class.

JP Liz V1

Hannibal_Smith wrote: »

No. It was his own place. I can't remember is it somewhere Carla organised for him, or it wasn't where him and Eva used to live was it?

I thought Eva sold their flat

Cash_Q

Eva and David were both the best tonight in my view. Very tough watching. Extremely well done. So glad they showed David's perspective as a contrast. Kate's lines were great she just can't act and jumped through them. Scene with Michelle was silly. No tears and still just hanging out in the hotel lobby when phoning Carla. Shona's reaction to David sharing what happened was handled very well too, instantly believed and supported him and assured him that he's in control regarding police etc. Very encouraging reaction for other victims in my view.

JP Liz V1

Why was Josh and Yazmeen at the factory when Alya was telling the staff?

OfTheMarsWongs

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Why was Josh and Yazmeen at the factory when Alya was telling the staff?

Is Yazmeen still working at Roy’s? Maybe he told her then she told Josh? Then they went to comfort Alya?

JP Liz V1

OfTheMarsWongs wrote: »

Is Yazmeen still working at Roy’s? Maybe he told her then she told Josh? Then they went to comfort Alya?

Maybe, is Josh and Alya a couple?

bobsman

Anyone else having problems watching it on the player??

OfTheMarsWongs

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Maybe, is Josh and Alya a couple?

Can’t remember if

I saw that they slept together in a spoiler on Digital Spy or on an episode. Josh using it so people would think he couldn’t possibly have raped David.

Jeff2

Strange that people that don't watch Corrie are here to have a say.

brooke 2

skearnsot wrote: »

She’s already saved the factory thousands on a basic maths mistake & now setting up a helpline - plus has cared for a drug addict and a depressed step foster grandmother or whatever I’d call Eileen! Thank goodness there isn’t a phone box on the street or she’d fly out of it wearing a cape nd superhero outfit

:pac::pac:

brooke 2

redduvet wrote: »

Yep

So glad to finally see David opening up though.

Also, glad to see Gina set folk straight on what suicide is about, how people do it cos they're desperate, not selfish, but every single person's reaction is understandable. Amazing acting, and I actually found Kate's particularly heartbreaking, her not wanting to believe it, her anger at Carla for saying it, the shock and not wanting to believe it was suicide, not able to take it in.

I thought Kate was excellent - brilliant acting. Her anger at Aidan and her wanting to believe it was an accident were such realistic reactions.

brooke 2

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Bloody hell. Need a drink after that. Not tea either. It was one if the best episodes of any soaps I have ever viewed. !

I think it was the best I have ever seen - the reactions to Aidan's suicide and David's telling Shona about his rape all in one night! Powerful!!

brooke 2

redduvet wrote: »

So many people think suicide is selfish. In my experience, probably most often people who haven't felt as bad as contemplating suicide. Thus losing sight of how desperate the person feels, and rather believing that the person who had died 'chose' to put them through that.

It seems to me that people who think like that are themselves selfish as they are only thinking of their own pain at the person's death, not what might have driven the person to such drastic action. Having said that, I do believe it is a very understandable reaction.

brooke 2

deisemum wrote: »

I've loved Shane Ward in Corrie and met him once, he's even better looking in the flesh. Only yesterday I was commenting about his superb performance on Monday night, little did I suspect that suicide would come knocking within my husband's family last night.

I am so sorry to hear that. Heartbreaking. A family member died by suicide over thirty years ago - it feels surreal when it happens to you. My sympathies to you, your husband and family.

Andy From Sligo

handled very well, most of the time, on tonight's corrie - i dont know what they was trying to achieve with kirkies wife saying what she said, but all i can presume is that they wanted to show that there is (and there is quite a few I bet) people out there who say and are in the same mindset as his wife unfortunately this is why with people like that it will still remain a stigma with some or not fully be understood by some

- maybe part of it is that we are human that stigma's will never go away fully, otherwise you wouldnt get people who slow down and stare at horrific road traffic accidents, and stare at disabled people or people who are disfigured and shout to people in wheelchairs or treat them like a child (whats that all about?) or dont want to be around depressed people (because they think it might be contagious?!?) or think that people carry out suicide for attention .... us humans are a strange bunch eh? (well some)

bobsman

Powerful stuff. Johnny and Eva were brilliant. I thought Jenny was very good too. I was surprised.

Maria, jaysis...shocking acting. Same for Kate and Michelle, woeful...

Jikashi

That was one excellent hour of television. I loved how they showed the spectrum of responses from people thinking what they could have done to help Aidan or spot the signs, Eva, Maria and Sophie picking apart their last time seeing him for clues, people like Kate and Beth calling him selfish or making it about themselves, Daniel, Roy and David reflecting on their own experiences with suicide, Gail desperately worried about her own son, Jenny trying to obfuscate without any other plan to respond, and Johnny totally shutting down. I'm so happy they left out most of the cartoon characters like Dev, Moira and the Appletons, and refrained from any hollow preaching from Ken, Liz or Rita, Gail's speech as they montaged the news spreaidng was perfect.

As someone who, like Daniel, knew a friend of a friend who has had these dark thoughts and can look back at them from a somewhat better headspace now, I thought the whole episode was handled just right.

Also I'm not ashamed to admit I choked up at parts, no actual tears, so far only Hayley's final scenes managed that

Ann22

Sinead Mc1 wrote:

What an episode. Had me in bits. Thought the scene where Carla arrived at the flat was very moving.. bracing herself before she walked in to the bathroom then gently telling Johnny to come away from the body. Dunno, just found that really sad. I liked Carla tonight. I think her reaction was typical of her no nonsense character. She was holding things together for everyone else.

I think her reaction was believable...any dramatic sobs wouldn't have rung true. I would expect her to act as her character normally would... to keep calm and shed her tears privately. I actually felt that horrible cold stomach feeling watching her bracing herself before going into the room.
Maria was ridiculous tonight... ffs..She was with Luke for ages and barely flinched when he died.
Where was Rana tonight? Thought she'd be comforting Kate.
Loved the scene with Gail. Very well done.
I believe Aiden knew about the baby but would have liked it to be made clearer just so Eva would know for sure he knew about her. It'd be a terrible thing for her to regret not telling him and perhaps give him a reason to live.

Andy From Sligo

Jikashi wrote: »

That was one excellent hour of television. I loved how they showed the spectrum of responses from people thinking what they could have done to help Aidan or spot the signs, Eva, Maria and Sophie picking apart their last time seeing him for clues, people like Kate and Beth calling him selfish or making it about themselves, Daniel, Roy and David reflecting on their own experiences with suicide, Gail desperately worried about her own son, Jenny trying to obfuscate without any other plan to respond, and Johnny totally shutting down. I'm so happy they left out most of the cartoon characters like Dev, Moira and the Appletons, and refrained from any hollow preaching from Ken, Liz or Rita, Gail's speech as they montaged the news spreaidng was perfect.

As someone who, like Daniel, knew a friend of a friend who has had these dark thoughts and can look back at them from a somewhat better headspace now, I thought the whole episode was handled just right.

Also I'm not ashamed to admit I choked up at parts, no actual tears, so far only Hayley's final scenes managed that

agree with all that you say , and yes glad too that they kept the 'comic' characters out of it. - yes it was very emotionally played out , great acting from most if not all of them on tonight's show. i do like corrie when its at its best with strong storylines.

- i do like the odd entertainment moments too - but i dont like the likes of these stupid characters the teacher brian, dev (when he is being creepy/ talking creepy) that moira one, and sometimes mary gets on my nerves too among a couple of others on there

Shelga

Have to say, I was taken aback when I heard that was how Aidan would exit, it seemed out of nowhere. But the way they wanted it to hit us as it would everyone else, with very few outward signs, was really well done. And looking back over the past few months, it was there, the way he’d gaze off sadly into the distance when all the kidney stuff was going on, etc.

That was one of the best episodes in years.

Summer wind

I thought tonight's episode was excellent. It was so sad I couldn't take my eyes away from the screen. Absolutely heartbreaking watching Kate run into the apartment when she saw the ambulance thinking Aidan had to be alive.
Eva and Carla were fantastic and johnny was out of this world. I'd love to see Carla hug him and call him dad.

drugstore cowboy

Gail's monologue was magnificent as it was surprising for her to be the character to say those words. I was expecting Ken Barlow to recite Shakespeare to his subjects in the Rovers with a half pint in his hand the tight git. Johnny was hard to watch as it seemed so real, the actor playing him must have needed a double whiskey and valium to unwind once the cameras stopped rolling.

Jenny talking gibberish made me smile because there's always one like her in a family when a tragedy happens acting in the same fashion.

Will Toyah and Eva be outed regarding the child? I think Carla signed complete ownership of the factory to Aidan so is there a chance he made a very last minute change to his will leaving the factory and whatever cash he had to the child for when she is grown?