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Kate Middleton at 6pm

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Today she gave birth at approximately 11am.
She appeared in public at approximately 6pm in a designer dress, heels, blow dry and flawless makeup.
She them takes her newborn baby home at 6.30pm.
I know it is not Kate that dictates her schedule and there's all that protocol cr#p to follow so maybe she's caught in the middle but what kind of a role model is she or what message is she sending to women/girls that you can have a baby that morning and by tea time look immaculate and be well enough to be discharged from hospital? (Obviously she was deemed well enough to leave but for a lot of women there's a 24hour overnight involved).
She had a personal stylist upstairs getting her ready for her exit. I've no doubt that there are nannies on hand at home to help her attend to her three children.
The reality of giving birth is so far removed from that facade it's not even comparative.

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[Deleted User]

I'm sure she'd have been waving on those steps within an hour if she'd been able, and gotten all the photo-ops and PR out of the way so she could get out of dodge asap and home to enjoy a bit of private family time. I completely understand why she'd be keen to get it all done so she didn't have to think about any of it for a while. The worlds press was outside with multitudes of Royal Family fans, waiting for a glimpse of the new baby and they weren't going to leave them alone until they got it. She can put on her pj's and have a hormonal breakdown in her own place in peace and quiet now, like everyone else.

It doesn't send any message to anyone, unless there are other Duchesses out there about to give birth to someone single digits in line to the throne, watching Kates every move for cues on how it's done.

ETA, she looked great, but it's not a personal affront to anyone without a glam squad waiting in the wings, just an occupational expectation.

_Dara_

meeeeh wrote: »

Whatever they would do it wouldn't go down well with someone. Someone will complain and you could do worse than being criticised because you look too well.

I don't think there'd be much commentary if she had stayed the night or a few hours longer.

meeeeh wrote: »

I don't care about royal family, I think monarchy now days makes sense only as tourist attraction and is completely outdated. But I wouldn't want to live in the (otherwise privliged) world where every moment of your life is scrutinised and judged.

I know. If I was British, I would not be a Royalist. It's a mad life. And all corners of the media, whatever their leanings, are OBSESSED with the Royal family. All so deferential. It's weird.

meeeeh

AllForIt wrote: »

I though the royal family were trying to do things differently. How someone in their marketing department didn't think it wouldn't go down well if she came out looking like she just arrived back home from a sunshine holiday I don't know.

Whatever they would do it wouldn't go down well with someone. Someone will complain and you could do worse than being criticised because you look too well.

I don't care about royal family, I think monarchy now days makes sense only as tourist attraction and is completely outdated. But I wouldn't want to live in the (otherwise privliged) world where every moment of your life is scrutinised and judged. Who cares why she left the hospital on the same day spotting nice bouncy blow dry. They have their own reasons as has every other woman who leaves maternity ward whenever she does. There is no rulebook on when you should go home and how you should look like.

_Dara_

Deleted User wrote: »

Imagine the kerfuffle if she’s hobbled out in her jimjams, dressing gown and slippers?

It's hardly either or, is it?

Gerry T

Putinbot wrote:

My friends wife gave birth to their 5th child just over a year ago. Max was born about 6am and she was home that day by 4pm. Nowadays they boot you out the same day if baby is born before midday. They only keep you if your a first timer or there is something wrong with you or the baby.

You don't give birth to no 5, they just fall out.

[Deleted User]

Imagine the kerfuffle if she’s hobbled out in her jimjams, dressing gown and slippers? Childbirth is painful, yes. But hormones take over once you’ve got your precious bundle in your arms and all pain disappears.

AllForIt

I though the royal family were trying to do things differently. How someone in their marketing department didn't think it wouldn't go down well if she came out looking like she just arrived back home from a sunshine holiday I don't know.

andekwarhola

The 'kind of message it sends out' is of little interest to anybody except the weirdos that ponder these things.

Cushie Butterfield

Wibbs wrote: »

I hope you're twelve, or thirteen at a push.

Let’s hope no one ever quotes you out of context. Can’t be too careful these days!

splinter65

Neyite wrote: »

They were though - the two kids were papped being brought in to meet their new sibling.

That’s what they pretended was happening. I think they went in that front door with daddy and straight out the back door with a nanny to go home and meet their new brother there in comfort and privacy.
It’s all an illusion for the newspapers.

meeeeh

splinter65 wrote: »

I don’t think she’s sending any message at all. She was just trying to get out of there and get home under the gaze of a very persistent intrusive press. What she did is the quickest most efficient way for her to achieve that without giving the media the opportunity to get weeks of speculation about how weary/tired/unhappy she looked if she had come out the same as Jane Doe.
This way, the story dies down much quicker, Duchess Kate looks fab etc.
Nothing to see here, move along.

This. Not to mention the hospital doesn't need the disruption because of security measures and photographers, onlookers and god knows who. If it was me I'd want to get out as soon as possible into the safety of home. It's not like doctors and nurses and other helpers won't be on hand there. Personally the only thought that crossed my mind was that those big collars don't look any nicer now than they did in nineties.

splinter65

Hector Savage wrote: »

Another little dole scrounger ... great ..

Have you been working in England long then?

splinter65

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why do you think the two older ones weren't brought to see the baby? I'm just really curious about all things royal so I find that interesting

I think that she intended to bring the baby home and have a private family relaxed “reveal” in the comfort of their own home. It just didn’t make any sense to bring the children into the strange unfamiliar hospital room at 4pm if she was going to be home anyway at 6.30pm.
I doubt if the two kids even knew mummy wasn’t at home all day.
Just my opinion.
But that shot of him walking the kids in to the hospital is one of the “money shots” for the paps and as I said already they mostly seem to be happy enough to leave the Cambridge’s alone if they get those pics.
Just my own opinion .

Hector Savage

Another little dole scrounger ... great ..

Neyite

_Dara_ wrote: »

S'pose it all happened so quick that they thought it might be better to do the introductions in a familiar place?

They were though - the two kids were papped being brought in to meet their new sibling.

One eyed Jack

splinter65 wrote: »

I don’t think she’s sending any message at all. She was just trying to get out of there and get home under the gaze of a very persistent intrusive press. What she did is the quickest most efficient way for her to achieve that without giving the media the opportunity to get weeks of speculation about how weary/tired/unhappy she looked if she had come out the same as Jane Doe.
This way, the story dies down much quicker, Duchess Kate looks fab etc.
Nothing to see here, move along.

This is what I mean - "Nothing to see here, move along, I woke up like this" :pac:

_Dara_

Deleted User wrote: »

Why do you think the two older ones weren't brought to see the baby? I'm just really curious about all things royal so I find that interesting

S'pose it all happened so quick that they thought it might be better to do the introductions in a familiar place?

[Deleted User]

splinter65 wrote: »

She put that super human effort into appearing like that for 5 minutes on those steps so the paps can get their snaps and there seems to be an unwritten agreement that once they get that snap and the snap of the older kids coming to see the new baby ( I don’t believe they saw the new baby then either, I think they were brought in the front door and out the back to a waiting car) that the paps will leave them in peace.
I’d take that deal myself.

Why do you think the two older ones weren't brought to see the baby? I'm just really curious about all things royal so I find that interesting

_Dara_

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I found it juvenile to be honest

Well, I guess I don't always think juvenile humour is bad humour!

Mackmatic

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I found it juvenile to be honest

It was just a joke. I should have read the room and realised it's full of mostly mammys.

I had a mammy at one stage as well. Meant no disrespect. I'll move along.

splinter65

_Dara_ wrote: »

I know and it's part of the life she chose so I'm sure she was mentally prepared.

Oh absolutely and she’s done it twice before already so well rehearsed.
She knows what has to be done and she does it.
Every little detail was planned with military precision.

D Trent

https://twitter.com/petercrouch/status/988731713248550912?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet
https://twitter.com/kensingtonroyal/status/988463639811194880

Bob Harris

I know a woman who gave birth in the morning and was drinking ale in her local that evening.
I'm fairly sure it's true as she told me herself.

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splinter65

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I suppose the message she's sending is that she can do it. Now whether that's a reflection on anyone else or whoever regards Kate as a role model is really their own business, but women have been doing this kind of thing for as long as I can remember anyway. I really don't think there's anything new here that should have anyone overly concerned.

I don’t think she’s sending any message at all. She was just trying to get out of there and get home under the gaze of a very persistent intrusive press. What she did is the quickest most efficient way for her to achieve that without giving the media the opportunity to get weeks of speculation about how weary/tired/unhappy she looked if she had come out the same as Jane Doe.
This way, the story dies down much quicker, Duchess Kate looks fab etc.
Nothing to see here, move along.

iamwhoiam

_Dara_ wrote: »

34 year old female here and I laughed at his post. When Robbie Williams said that seeing his wife's vagina during labour and after birth was like watching his favourite pub burning down, people laughed and laughed.

I found it juvenile to be honest

monkeysnapper

..

I drove my wife to hospital 09:55 and she had baby 10:14 , we were out by 3pm and she was at her business doing a few jobs around place at 5pm...

Fair fecks to her ....I told her she was mad but wouldn't listen .. I had to take a few days off just in case she left baby in a draw while cleaning windows or replacing roof tiles ....

_Dara_

splinter65 wrote: »

She put that super human effort into appearing like that for 5 minutes on those steps so the paps can get their snaps and there seems to be an unwritten agreement that once they get that snap and the snap of the older kids coming to see the new baby ( I don’t believe they saw the new baby then either, I think they were brought in the front door and out the back to a waiting car) that the paps will leave them in peace.
I’d take that deal myself.

I know and it's part of the life she chose so I'm sure she was mentally prepared.

Mackmatic

Neyite wrote: »

They are pretty amazing yokes all right.

They can stretch to a baby's head circumference and ping back afterwards to still feel even the tiniest of cocks.

Lucky for me!!

splinter65

_Dara_ wrote: »

I honestly don't think it's true to say that she would have been damned in every scenario you outlined. I think her staying an extra night in the hospital would have been met with understanding. As far as I know, this was her quickest exit to date.

I don't think it's bashing really. I have no interest in bashing her but my eyebrows did rise at how quickly she left the hospital post-birth because it would have meant she was in hair and make-up very, very soon after birth. It's not the same as someone doing their own make-up and hair. She would have people swarming around her in addition to the medical staff. It doesn't seem like she would have got much time to rest.

I'm not keen on people being called bashers just for thinking of these things and saying them. Honestly, I felt a bit concerned for her.

She put that super human effort into appearing like that for 5 minutes on those steps so the paps can get their snaps and there seems to be an unwritten agreement that once they get that snap and the snap of the older kids coming to see the new baby ( I don’t believe they saw the new baby then either, I think they were brought in the front door and out the back to a waiting car) that the paps will leave them in peace.
I’d take that deal myself.