freshpopcorn wrote: » Sometimes people regret their sexual encounters afterwords wither straight away or the next morning for what ever reason.
freshpopcorn wrote: » It's the vibe I get off some people who says oh no woman would never have group sex or agree to be treated like that during sex. I can just base this on personal experience from myself and friends. Sometimes people regret their sexual encounters afterwords wither straight away or the next morning for what ever reason.
Silentcorner wrote: » "The vibe you get off people!!"....right...so it's the vibe we are working off now, not what anyone actually says.... How often does that regret end up in a court case, doing huge damage to 5 young lives?
Fann Linn wrote: » Very wrong to start assuming things about witnesses who gave evidence under oath. Unless of course you know something that the PSNI don't. Perhaps you should let them know.
NAGDEFI wrote: » I did realise, as sometimes when people are overly preoccupied with the financial side of things they lose sight of the basics of morality. Sometimes those in socially deprived areas are involved in drugs. No societal group is better than the other. The law of the land found the men not guilty. But most reasonable people, including yourself, know full well that most involved didn't know what was going on that night. Amount of drink, parties feeling there was consent, a party feeling there wasn't. All very grey. Dara Florence 50 seconds of judgement. Did she know the rugby lads well??? Maybe she was a credible witness?? I don't know,you don't know, the people themselves mightn't know. They were found not guilty by the law. But people always have their own opinions in the back of their minds.
facehugger99 wrote: » Yeah, so much so that they tell their best friends, end up making a complaint to the police, then in a witness stand for 8 days getting aggressively questioned by barristers on the most intimate details of their lives in a public court setting. Sounds legit.
RuMan wrote: » Reminds me of stongly homophobic people who are often repressing their own urges. Could well be a form of self loathing here also.
NAGDEFI wrote: » Oh yes Fann Linn. Perjury has never happened before has it?? I said she could have told lies, she could have told the truth. A lot of people don't worry about an oath these days or centuries ago for that matter. Maybe you could go on a weeks training in the NI courts and PSNI and find out about perjury in court.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Good grief, where do you live. It's 2018. It was a few smutty comments that I would say most young men engage in after a night out. Have you any contact with young people?
freshpopcorn wrote: » Sorry I wrote that incorrectly. It's what they actually wrote No woman would never agree to anything like this. In my experience yes they would. I have no idea how often things like this ends up in court and neither do you.
tretorn wrote: » I cant get over people being shocked at the slut comments even though I dont think Blane Mc Ilroy meant any real offence putting slut title on the photo of the girls. The only people with any real grieviance about that are the girls in the picture and they were probably amused.
tretorn wrote: » The girls probably put up photos of the lads in their whatsapp groups and seeing as they werent terribly interested in the men God knows how they would have captioned the photos.
tretorn wrote: » I mean are there genuinely people out there who dont realise that women who sleep around get a very bad reputation, do parents seriously not have a problem with their daughters putting it about with every Tom, Dick Or Harry. Thats certainly not the case with the parents I know anyway.
NAGDEFI wrote: » No a lot of us heterosexual males rather be intimate with a girl without having best friend Paddy in the bed with us. I'd say that's a fairly normal feeling among men, who wouldn't be repressed. Just wouldn't get any kick out of it. I mean Paddy in general now, not 'Jacko'.
Fann Linn wrote: » Generalisation.
NAGDEFI wrote: » I do Francie. Train young lads. 2018 my backside. We should be evolving a bit. Not regressing to Neanderthals. If those attitudes spread shur there's no respect for women. I'd say it wouldn't bother you too much but if someone blacckguarded your sister or mother. Men have the physical power. They need to know how to behave and not objectify girls. Francie.. Jaysus.
freshpopcorn wrote: » I was just talking about friends getting upset after sex. I have seen friends get very upset after sex they consented to. I wan't referring to this case. Some people would lead you to believe it's unheard of to be upset after sex.
freshpopcorn wrote: » One thing this trial really showed me was how prude some people are when it comes to sexual stuff. Some people(women more so) would lead you to believe nobody would never take part in any kind of kinky sex willingly. This isn't reality in my experience.
RuMan wrote: » I was referring to a 3 some in general not specifically 2M1W. That wouldnt be my personal cup of tea but if all parties are happy who am i to judge. Would you be comfortable with 2 women ?
facehugger99 wrote: » That’s all in your head. That’s all in your head. And that paragraph just seems to be a stream of thought unconnected to anything that preceded it. Otherwise good post though.
Silentcorner wrote: » So....it's not the vibe you get off people, you are referring to what they wrote... Ok point out where anyone said that? I do know how they end up in court...someone makes a complaint to the police!
NAGDEFI wrote: » No i wouldn't disrespect my partner and she wouldn't like it. Irrelevant.
Silentcorner wrote: » Jesus Christ.... I'd be very worried if someone got very upset after sex...what kind of a world do you live in? You do all is takes is one complaint to the cops and you are in deep deep trouble!
FrancieBrady wrote: » I didn't ask you to moralise. I asked did where you in contact with young people? Most young fella's talk about a night out like that. It's called banter. I think a lot of the outcry around this case is the still prevalent desire of some Irish people to control what goes on in bedrooms.
RuMan wrote: » I already said private messages are none of my business. Unlike the vile abuse to Dara Florence these messages werent sent to the woman
RuMan wrote: » Fair enough if ur both happy good luck 2u. Others prefer alternative lifestyles and you shouldnt project your own personal morals on them no more then they should on you.
NAGDEFI wrote: » It's not banter when it's language like that. Only if your thick. Young lads are impressionable. If they think coach Francie thinks it's great 'banter' to talk about spit roasting sluts, merry go rounds, top shaggers, you are a fool and have no leadership qualities. You're normalising belittling women to young impressionable, not as cocky as they seem young lads. If you let them know they're are limits and who's boss you get respect. Anything you'd be involved in with young lads would be a farce with no one in charge. You can have banter but give example.
jm08 wrote: » So its alright, as long as she doesn't hear them. I wonder what they think of her now that she literally saved their bacon. And I wonder what she thinks of them.
