SEPT 23 1989 wrote: » New York was able to get its house in order long before the PC crap arrived London hasn't a hope in today's climate
RayCun wrote: » Actually, more murders in New York this year than in London (50 to 48) , and London is slightly larger. But that doesn't sell papers, or appeal to islamophobes.
Bailey Bald Stoplight wrote: » Afraid to say it's 2 more fatalities tonight, in Hackney & Clapton. 52nd Murder probe of the year so far in Ldn. The folks over in the Bronx must be counting their blessings.
Hector Bellend wrote: » Apparently banning guns will solve it
Billy86 wrote: » Mightn't do much harm though, considering the US has a murder rate higher than most African countries.
African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for African Americans was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher.
OneEightSeven wrote: » They need to ban immigration form black countries while they're at it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Homicide
Billy86 wrote: » Still doesn't explain Dublin's murder rate being comfortably higher than New York. Must be all d'black lads we've got that they don't.
Bailey Bald Stoplight wrote: » Didn't they spend about £5bn each on a couple of fancy warships, that have no aircraft as yet, and tendency to breakdown. Also hard to see them compete up against Vlads new range of (7,000mph) throwing sticks. How many community centers or street bobbies would £10bn get these days?
silverharp wrote: » NY is very well policed , they have a lot more cops per sq km than Dublin and London
Hande hoche! wrote: » My favourite was the destroyers that have difficulties operating in warm waters. Will be useful if the Argentinians get in fighting humour. Less so if any conflict is the same vein as those the Royal Navy has been involved in this century.
youreadthat wrote: » We all know about the tropical waters of the Falkland’s....
Aegir wrote: » and how exactly are the Argentines going to get into a fighting humour in the first place? Have you seen the state of their military?
Pepefrogok wrote: » What makes you think the QE carrier's have a tendency to break down?
Pepefrogok wrote: » One ising even finished yet!
Pepefrogok wrote: » The other one is on sea trials at present, also why would they have aircraft on them now? They are not ready for them the planes will be ready when the carrier is ready, RAF personal are training with f35's off American platforms at present and when the QE carrier's are ready the plains and pilot's will be also.
Pepefrogok wrote: » Also community centres and bobbies are no use in a war, perhaps the London mayor can stop prioritising his massive budget on things like hate crimes I.e. hurtful posts on face book or paying officers to travel around mosques trying to drum up hate crime stats.
Bailey Bald Stoplight wrote: » 2017, QE sprung a leak during sea trails.
Bailey Bald Stoplight wrote: » It's 2018 now and big ‘flat-top’ aircraft carriers are considered vulnerable to the new generation of anti-ship missiles, Chinese & Ruska have 7,000mph throwing darts. Hypersonic, cyber, stealth, UAV and high-altitude. Then later, Space itself. Mach-20 is the new benchmark.
Bailey Bald Stoplight wrote: » Why- for real-world sea trials, you wouldn't test an empty wheelbarrow. For sure not ready, the F-35 fighter jet programme has gone disastrously awry, terrifying the Americans with its £150 billion cost overrun and seven-year delay (7 years!). Britain planned to put 36 F-35s on each carrier. So stupendous is their cost that this has shrunk to just 12!
Bailey Bald Stoplight wrote: » There is no war, and none currently requiring these, and if there is ever a proper WW3, the only option for the 99% in 'MAD' is to dig a hole, count the tinned beans and hope for the best. Sure you can't police Facebook, but you can set aside a budget for community policing in London, and reducing the 30,000 or so knife crimes, which any bloke on the street would prefer, over big slow boats. Ask the 78yr in today's papers who last night was confronted in his kitchen, about his thoughts on crime levels.
Aegir wrote: » shocking. Maybe they should do something like run some sea trials before going in to service to identify these type of issues......
Aegir wrote: » and yet both countries are building their own aircraft carriers. Odd that :rolleyes:
Aegir wrote: » Britain is ordering 138 of the F35b, so in theory they have 138 available. The plan though, is to have 24 available for the carriers. Only one will be actually running at any one time, so it isn't 12 each.
Aegir wrote: » so what you're saying is that no government should spend any money on defence until it has solved all its social problems?
Bailey Bald Stoplight wrote: » Sure, but springing leaks would probably be somewhat of a surprise on the list of things that could go wrong on a new boat.
Bailey Bald Stoplight wrote: » Looking at the sheer range of new stuff coming out from the East, they appear to be more concerned with full-spectrum, sure the odd boat as well, but mightn't be top of their list(s).
Bailey Bald Stoplight wrote: » That's what was reported, can you imagine how much it would cost to buy and maintain 138 of these planes along with all the staff, for x1 running boat. A$tronomical comes to mind.
Bailey Bald Stoplight wrote: » Nope, it should be a balanced decision. The NHS was on it's knees over the winter, schools are overcrowded and under-performing, crime is up (yet another stabbing this morning in Ldn). Then of course the small matter of the cost of Brexitious, which will also have 'nine zeros' after the £ figure.
Billy86 wrote: » Absolutely, I've family over there and know they're absolutely everywhere, especially in downtown/built up areas. Which is why this is an odd comparison to make, re London/NY... New York City (and especially Manhattan) if I'm correct is statistically one of the safest places in the entire US and one of the safer major cities in the world. It just comes over as lazy on the writer's part, and going off a reputation that New York had from a quarter of a century ago.
The_Kew_Tour wrote: » Wasn't it some Irish fella who has had major part play in New York falling crime rate?
Billy86 wrote: » That puts them on pace for 200 murders this year, which would be... which is still still be about half of what Dublin's murder rate was last year, which itself was down from 2016. That's why these bulk number breakdowns can be misleading, as New York itself has one of the lowest murder rates in the USA of any large enough city. The murder rate in Buffalo is about five times higher than NYC, Philadelphia about six times higher, and St. Louis has a murder rate over 16.5 times higher than NYC (highest in the US).
Aegir wrote: » yeah, he moved to Australia
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