AudreyHepburn wrote: » But an awful lot of women iare judging men as a whole. They have suggested men should attend consent classes as if they need to be taught how not to rape. They take issue with every woman related statement men make and assume that all men hate and disrespect women and only want one thing from them. They think it’s ok to judge a mans character from a few silly texts.Some have even suggested that Ireland is a dangerous place for women because we have men here. It’s insane and frankly if that’s your mindset then you are part of the problem not the solution.
iamwhoiam wrote: » And any one claiming to speak for every single woman in Ireland is just being silly .You might and your circle might and those you speak with might .That doesn't mean anyone who doesn't and claims she doesn't is a liar .? One hand up here and I am not a liar .I have never spoken like that about any man
AudreyHepburn wrote: » You might not but I’d wager most of us have at some point and it wouldn’t have been in a malicious or man hating way. It would have been silly banter like PJ and his friends. To bury your head in the sand and pretend we woman are all goodness and light is at best woefully naive.
AudreyHepburn wrote: » optogirl wrote: » Nobody is judging all men. Why is that the first place so many men jump to...'were not all pricks!'. WE KNOW. There is a problem with double standards for men and women, there is a problem with reporting of rape, there is a problem with convictions in these cases. There is a sick idea that nonsense like being from a good family, being a promising athlete or being of previously good character somehow lessens the behaviour. The amount of times we hear of some abuser getting a reduced sentence because his reputation was damaged. Give me a f***ing break. It is weary making in the extreme. Anger ensues but nobody is saying all men are rapists. That is a false trope MEN routinely use to undermine women's anger. But an awful lot of women iare judging men as a whole. They have suggested men should attend consent classes as if they need to be taught how not to rape. They take issue with every woman related statement men make and assume that all men hate and disrespect women and only want one thing from them. They think it’s ok to judge a mans character from a few silly texts.Some have even suggested that Ireland is a dangerous place for women because we have men here. It’s insane and frankly if that’s your mindset then you are part of the problem not the solution.
optogirl wrote: » Nobody is judging all men. Why is that the first place so many men jump to...'were not all pricks!'. WE KNOW. There is a problem with double standards for men and women, there is a problem with reporting of rape, there is a problem with convictions in these cases. There is a sick idea that nonsense like being from a good family, being a promising athlete or being of previously good character somehow lessens the behaviour. The amount of times we hear of some abuser getting a reduced sentence because his reputation was damaged. Give me a f***ing break. It is weary making in the extreme. Anger ensues but nobody is saying all men are rapists. That is a false trope MEN routinely use to undermine women's anger.
irishrebe wrote: » And innocent phrases like 'any sluts around?', 'loose vagina', yeah, totally misconstrued.
cloudatlas wrote: » Can you seriously imagine any of the big sponsores attaching their brand to the rugger lads in this group who have actually spoken about a woman like she is a piece of meat to be 'spit roasted' that all the women at the party even the ones who supposedly liked the lads were sluts and prostitutes. Maybe it's 'normal' in some circles of men in their 20's mainly but does that mean it's okay? but you can't say that it isn't because then you get labelled a prude. When do boys learn to say this stuff who do they learn it from, a boy of 10 said something of a nasty nature to my niece 4. Where did he get it from? It's not just about lads in their 20's it's much bigger than that and it is about 'normalising' these types of words so that young boys of primary school age think that's okay to say that to a girl. It isn't and I think people who say it is are mentally deficient. The crowd at rugby matches are a lot more friendly to women than at football matches, rugby crowds are welcoming to women and if you think those women will want to support these lads then you aren't living on this planet.
Tell me how wrote: » Seriously? Don't think men can complain that we are the ones who suffer most from objectification.
RuMan wrote: » One wonders what the reaction would be to 2 munster players participating in a consensual threesome?Sad to see bigotry against the Unionist community still prevalent in the south. A court of law has decided these men are innocent there really is nothing more to say.
jr86 wrote: » It's absolutely farcical these Whatsapp texts were ever released to the public. Some of the reaction to innocent phrases like "threw her home" is honestly disturbing
irishrebe wrote: » What's really hilarious to me is how so many men on here view these things as a 'punishment'. Attending consent classes means they are all automatically considered rapists, for example. I had to attend mandatory 'racism awareness' classes when I worked in London. Did I throw my toys out of the pram and tell them to stop accusing me of being racist and stop disrespecting me? Or did I welcome the opportunity to put myself in the shoes of people of other races and consider issues I might not have thought about before as a white person? I know I'm not a racist, so it didn't bother me having to go to that course. But a consent class for a man is assuming that all men are rapists?
RuMan wrote: » One wonders what the reaction would be to 2 munster players participating in a consensual threesome? Sad to see bigotry against the Unionist community still prevalent in the south. A court of law has decided these men are innocent there really is nothing more to say.
Laois_Man wrote: » I wasn't aware men were complaining about films such as Girls Trip (or any other one of a list of "chick flick" films I could mention)! It's men who get accused of misogyny, not women accused of misandry - a word most women don't even seem to know exists. I'm not sure I have ever heard anybody speak the word in my entire life. If women went to see a movie with a poster like that, they'd probably laugh their arses off at it - just as they did in the cinema I was in when Girls Trip was showing. Men generally, myself included, don't seem to find it nearly as funny as females do. Just the "chick-flick" brigade! Let them laugh tho - men don't actually care!
Mokuba wrote: » Literally every single thing she said was factually wrong or speculative nonsense. And this lack of knowledge about the case is shared by most who #ibelieveher. They couldn't care less about information or facts if they don't conform to their own personal bias and worldview.
Strazdas wrote: » Former rugby international Alan Quinlan said yesterday it's very possible Jackson and Olding could be released from their contracts for "bringing the game into disrepute" (which is actually written into their contract). There's definitely a lot of minimising going on here as if the two players and their two pals have done nothing wrong whatsoever ("they're just being typical lads") and everything is fine and dandy.
optogirl wrote: » Or at least the product of a society that still views men as top shaggers and the women they shag as sluts.
iamwhoiam wrote: » Dont speak for " we women " please . You only know of your own circle . So you cannot speak for all women .
AudreyHepburn wrote: » Yet you seem content to do just that saying that no woman would ever talk dirty about men.
AudreyHepburn wrote: » But they haven’t done anything wrong - they’ve been found not guilty remember?
Tell me how wrote: » Small bit of a difference between Munster situation and whats going on here don't you think? As for the bit I've highlighted, do you think the March today is in memory of the GFA?
iamwhoiam wrote: » I most certainely did not say that .I said NOT ALL Women do .
keith_sixteen wrote: » Surely not a coincidence that all those tweeting #suemetoo are also saying how they have no money anyway.
