irishrebe wrote: » Being from a privileged background and having a talent for sports means you can't be a sorry excuse for a person now?
Sidebaro wrote: » I'm not sure I understand you? Are you saying that the personal attention, labelling of slut and liar doesn't matter because the general attention, #ibelieveher is worth it? Maybe I'm getting you wrong with that?
irishrebe wrote: » This reeks of 'Nice Guy Syndrome'.
GiftofGab wrote: » Do you have the link to the reddit??
Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: » Men don't have any interest in women who won't put out for them. That goes without saying. I find men boring because they generally approach women solely on that basis and with the kind of infantile talk witnessed in those text messages. If a woman wants a "partner" she has to put up with this cr@p at the early stages.
goz83 wrote: Yes, it will inspire some women. You're naive if you think it won't. I won't pretend to understand, or know the motivations of others, but I do know that some will indeed draw motivation from the type of case I posted and the main one in this thread.
goz83 wrote: If you had to choose....even after the outcome of this case, who would you rather be: PJ, or the largely unknown girl in the case?
GreeBo wrote: Its been ages since someone brought up the idea of White Male Privilege, well done.
irishrebe wrote: » Sure, no worries that a woman who is raped in Ireland can't have a legal abortion because women in Saudi Arabia have it worse! Silly b1tches should just all shut up and stop bothering you!
SAMTALK wrote: You I just think you're intent on not seeing the bigger picture. You do realise there are a lot of unhinged people out there? You do realise there are a lot of attention seeking people out there/
OwlsZat wrote: » Where was that said? I dismissed earlier speculation about drugs but maybe there is more to it. I'd assume that the photo's that were taken on the night we analysed closely for dilated pupils? Also is there much of a scene in Belfast for ecstasy. That's the only drug I could imagine would keep someone up as long. 30 hours awake is no mean feat regardless of the mental state.
Sidebaro wrote: » Of course. I don't think a case where the verdict returned was no guilty would encourage 'a lot' of people to falsely accuse others of rape. Especially since the chances of a conviction are so low. If it was a guilty verdict then I could get on board with you.
irishman86 wrote: » cloudatlas wrote: » you want to normalise it I don't that's the difference. What are you talking about. This is how men and women talk about the opposite sex The catholic church doesnt rule us anymore, we are freely let talk about banging You are a prude, i am not thats the difference
cloudatlas wrote: » you want to normalise it I don't that's the difference.
professore wrote: » What kind of "men" did you hang out with? I and most guys I know talk to women as human beings. And that "infantile talk" is used because if a guy is after sex, that kind of "infantile talk" is what gets you laid. Not a debate on the pros and cons of Brexit for example. Guys quickly learn any sort of meaningful conversation in a bar or nightclub scenario turns off women.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Roe McDermott on TV3 Tonight Show last night wasn't picked up when she suggested that even if a woman, after a night of what the male believed to be consensual, if drunken sex, wakes up in the morning and decides it wasn't consensual, must be listened to and action taken. Does she realise how mindbogglingly impossible it makes things?
Sidebaro wrote: » I could understand that inspiration a lot more if it was a guilty verdict, or if guilty verdicts were more common.
The largely unknown girl is largely unknown to us. In her community she is widely known. I'd rather be Paddy Jackson. The verdict went in my favour.
hill16bhoy wrote: » I don't think you could have contradicted yourself any more if you had tried. Though I'm not sure many women would be turned on by such infantile talk as you have displayed here.
irishman86 wrote: » What are you talking about. This is how men and women talk about the opposite sex The catholic church doesnt rule us anymore, we are freely let talk about banging You are a prude, i am not thats the difference
razorblunt wrote: » Rape covers digital penetration too. They didn't find any proof he had sex though. If he couldn't get it up, he might just been, you know, back there. The position then made it look like he was.
SAMTALK wrote: I give up! I wasnt talking about the verdict which at lot of people dont seem to respect. Im talking about all the media attention.
MarinersBlues wrote: » The irony is that a lot of the people "protesting" The verdict would also join a protest against prejudice.
sightband wrote: » Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » The problem when is that when you're famous - especially for something that involves representing your country - you're expected to be upstanding and ethical in behaviour and presentation at all times. Even when not "on duty". These guys were far from it and any organisation that they represent has the right to drop them from any endorsement duties At the end of the day you know as well as I do: what people see these guys are endorsing isn't just the product or a rugby shirt. How did Simon Zebo and Connor Murray escape totally unscathed from their own threesome soirée few years back? Granted there was no question ever of it being non consensual but it was hardly behaviour fitting of representatives of their country, sponsors didn’t seem to have an issue and Murray is the golden boy of Irish rugby. Different rules back then perhaps? How times have changed in only a short few years. What I really don’t get is why these rugby lads want to be getting intimate with each other and women at the same time. Bunch of f*cking oddballs.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » The problem when is that when you're famous - especially for something that involves representing your country - you're expected to be upstanding and ethical in behaviour and presentation at all times. Even when not "on duty". These guys were far from it and any organisation that they represent has the right to drop them from any endorsement duties At the end of the day you know as well as I do: what people see these guys are endorsing isn't just the product or a rugby shirt.
goz83 wrote: So you think PJ won? I think everyone lost tbh. It's hard to say this as a man, but gender aside, I would prefer to be in the position of the woman (from a purely outsiders perspective, not knowing either the woman, or PJ). Even if I were raped, I believe I would be able to have a better life going forward than to be someone who was accused of rape.
Assetbacked wrote: » The possibility that she would want to be gangbanged, be penetrated in every hole possible and degraded is non-existent to people. Why? It’s kinky sex; people love it and do not need to feel guilty for it. We don’t know her situation, perhaps her fear of being named publicly with videos and the witness telling people was too strong so tentatively went down the path of “it wasn’t consensual” but then it snowballed. We don’t know though and I’m not spreading that around unlike #IBelieveHer attention seeking ignorant fools who seem to have a proper insight into the girl’s mind. It really is so pathetic and misguided.
drugstore cowboy wrote: » I don't remember this level of outrage in a case that recently happened in this country concerning a Cork girl who claimed she was raped on a rappers tour bus by a couple of roadies. It was a pretty heavy case with reports of girls begging/fighting to be let on the bus, drugs openly being taken in a well known Cork nightclub by the rapper and crew, the crew picking which women were brought onto the bus after the club closed, I believe each guy brought 2 girls on the bus and there's a lot of similarities to the belfast case and the whole bus party sounds pretty debauched. I'm struggling to grasp why that case was left alone by them and this one isn't? I know the likes of LON complain about white men a lot so did they decide it was best not to protest that case and get stuck into this one? Genuinely wonder.
Appledreams15 wrote: » Have you ever wanted to be gangbanged in every hole? PORN IS NOT REAL!!! And is another problem. It gives men violent norms if how to treat women. Why was she crying and hysterical after it if she wanted it
Sidebaro wrote: » It's borderline impossible to see all the media attention, realise it's about a rape case, and not know the verdict.
