Teyla Emmagan wrote: » I have to say if I was that young woman, and went through all of that to lose the case, I would be on suicide watch right now. I do think she felt she was raped. I hope she has very good care right now, this must be devastating.
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » We'll never know but people are forming all sorts of theories so anything is possible.
padser wrote: » A jury coming back that quickly generally means there was no dissenting jurors (ie no one on the fence) and that all jurors regarded it as "open and shut" Don't forget that judges tell juries they must go through all the evidence before making a decision, so 3 hours for 8 weeks evidence really is them saying "we are absolutely of one mind here"
SlickRic wrote: » I love that every person on social media knows what happened that night, despite pretty much every account being different. Why can't more people just simply say: 'I don't know what happened.' There's no shame in saying 'I don't know'.
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » Wheeliebin30 wrote: » I seen some pics of her months ago from her various social media pages. Very racey and glamour model like wannabee. Who knows the real reason she sent with this allegation. Seriously we are getting into the time machine and going back to the 'sure she was wearing a short skirt' asking for it nonsense. Oral rape does exist someone smaller weaker can be dominated and forced by another.
Wheeliebin30 wrote: » I seen some pics of her months ago from her various social media pages. Very racey and glamour model like wannabee. Who knows the real reason she sent with this allegation.
Sidebaro wrote: » You're very sure that she lied, can you speculate as to the reason you believe she lied?
Oaklyn Early Fauna wrote: I said to the wife yesterday that the only verdict to satisfy media and social media would be a guilty one, regardless of what happened. Looks like I was right.
mimimcmc wrote: » Just wondering if someone can clarify something for me... I've seen a lot of people saying "I beliver her.. why would you put yourself through all of that etc." But I thought I heard them say on the Matt Cooper show that it wasn't her that brought the case forward and pressed charges? Who was it? and that means she would not have known how big this was gonna get?
Rally protesting Belfast rape trial verdict to be held in Dublin According to the organisers of the Dublin event: "The feminist movement is calling a rally in response to the impact of the recent rape trial in Belfast. "This event is for those who cannot make the rally at Belfast High Court. Brings signs and placards to show your support.
silverharp wrote: » wait what?https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/newsireland/rally-protesting-belfast-rape-trial-verdict-to-be-held-in-dublin/ar-BBKPddt?li=AAmb2oK&ocid=spartandhp
Deusexmachina wrote: » If they are not guilty then the sex was in fact consensual. Therefore, her account was false in that regard. If the jury had found them guilty, I would be equally clear that the men were lying. This was the key question in the whole trial - who to believe - them or her. The jury believed them. I accept the jury's decision.
Adamocovic wrote: » But I can't get on board with the idea of the #IBelieveHer movement. It's one thing people saying they believe she thought she was raped, but to disregard the findings of a court of law as false based solely on the fact you believe her, and calling the accused rapists seems ridiculously wrong in my opinion.
cloudatlas wrote: » The rape crisis center may have valid concerns about how the case was conducted. Can ye not wait to get more information?
Deusexmachina wrote: » Sure. She very clearly stated that the sex was not consensual. She confirmed that consistently under cross examination. She said tht Olding forced her to have oral sex with her. She said the third guy exposed himself to her. Now, after a long trial and a very fair and balanced set of instructions from the judge, the jury found the men not guilty. If they are not guilty then the sex was in fact consensual. Therefore, her account was false in that regard. If the jury had found them guilty, I would be equally clear that the men were lying. This was the key question in the whole trial - who to believe - them or her. The jury believed them. I accept the jury's decision. That does not mean I am not absolutely disgusted by the men's behaviour. I am - totally. But I also think her attempt to get these men imprisoned for rape was wrong. They did not rape her. She has 'no regrets' - well that speaks for itself.
gargargar wrote: » I think people are saying that on the balance of the evidence they believe her even if there are some doubts.
Deusexmachina wrote: » Now, after a long trial and a very fair and balanced set of instructions from the judge, the jury found the men not guilty. If they are not guilty then the sex was in fact consensual. Therefore, her account was false in that regard. If the jury had found them guilty, I would be equally clear that the men were lying. This was the key question in the whole trial - who to believe - them or her. The jury believed them. I accept the jury's decision. That does not mean I am not absolutely disgusted by the men's behaviour. I am - totally. But I also think her attempt to get these men imprisoned for rape was wrong. They did not rape her. She has 'no regrets' - well that speaks for itself.
Appledreams15 wrote: » Mass protests about rape in Ireland today. We are akin to India now. Hopefully this shines an international spotlight on the shameful way that women are treated in Ireland. When you have mass protests about rape, you"ve got to start looking at yourselves.
