ohnonotgmail wrote: » options 1 and 2. Having watched some members of the russian public being interviewed this has played really well with them. They were all applauding the murder of a traitor.
attempted murder then.
Elmer Blooker wrote: » "Having watched" .... on British state controlled television? They are hardly going to show a member of the Russian public claiming it was a false flag to discredit Russia are they? You forgot to mention the "evidence" - "highly likely"
ohnonotgmail wrote: » you mean the nerve agent only produced in russian state labs?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Elmer Blooker wrote: » "Having watched" .... on British state controlled television? They are hardly going to show a member of the Russian public claiming it was a false flag to discredit Russia are they? You forgot to mention the "evidence" - "highly likely" you mean the nerve agent only produced in russian state labs?
na1 wrote: » You mean if somebody was killed with AK-47 we can blame Russians?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » na1 wrote: » You mean if somebody was killed with AK-47 we can blame Russians? as analogies go that is about as weak as it gets.
na1 wrote: » Do you believe or have supporting statements from the UK officials that no one can produce that nerve agent?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » na1 wrote: » Do you believe or have supporting statements from the UK officials that no one can produce that nerve agent? The UK have made it quite clear that the nerve agent was only produced by russian labs (or possibly only one). so either the russians did it themselves or they have lost control of a deadly nerve agent. the first makes them terrorists the second makes them incompetent.
na1 wrote: » Really? do you have a link? AFAIK they even refused to provide details
na1 wrote: » The official statement from the UK officials? The only source that I have is:https://www.rte.ie/news/uk/2018/0313/947005-nerve-agent-attack/
ohnonotgmail wrote: » na1 wrote: » The official statement from the UK officials? The only source that I have is:https://www.rte.ie/news/uk/2018/0313/947005-nerve-agent-attack/ http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43381880
na1 wrote: » Do you believe that clowness?[font=Helmet, Freesans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Mrs May said the UK must "stand ready to take much more extensive measures" against Russia than it had previously.[/font]
ohnonotgmail wrote: » that doesnt change who did it.
na1 wrote: » Let me guess: the crystal ball?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » na1 wrote: » Let me guess: the crystal ball? You really do need to stop reading RT. Or start reading it better. hard to tell which.
na1 wrote: » Could you please send me a link to RT so I can finally read it? I'm mostly reading BBC & The independent, none of them tell who did it.
Elmer Blooker wrote: » Soviet Union labs. There is the possibility of an Uzbekistan connection? I'm not saying there is because there has to be something called evidence.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok_agent#Description_of_Novichok_agents
ArchXStanton wrote: » I believe the Russians have asked for a sample of the nerve agent,so far the UK hasn't responded
cnocbui wrote: » Nah, they aren't looking, they already have it, namely proof of the use of chemical weapons. If they US does react, hopefully it will be with cruise missiles aimed at Assad personally. What brilliant coup that would be - offing Assad while he's under Russian 'protection'.
Elmer Blooker wrote: » That reminds me, whatever happened to the doctor who came to the aid of Yulia Skripal by "clearing her airways" as she sat on the bench? You would think the doctor would be seriously ill having coming into such close proximity with Yulia Skripal. All mention of this doctor has been completely dropped from news reports but we are still hearing about how ill the policeman who also came to the woman's aid is?
Former London police chief Ian Blair hinted Friday that a police officer who was in serious condition after coming in contact with the unidentified toxin had visited the home of ex-spy Sergei Skripal during the initial investigation.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Strange the UK will not allow Russia a sample to test to see where it came from? Why are they so afraid to allow this? Apparently, another Russian has just been found dead in London, natural causes or suspicious death not known yet. Russian exile who was close friends with the late oligarch Boris Berezovsky has been found dead in his London home, according to friends. Nikolai Glushkov was discovered by his family and friends late on Monday night, aged 68. The cause of death is not yet clear. One of his friends, the newspaper editor Damian Kudryavtsev, .https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/13/russian-exile-nikolai-glushkov-found-dead-at-his-london-home In the 1990s, Glushkov worked for the state airline Aeroflot and Berezovsky’s LogoVAZ car company. In 1999, as Berezovsky fell out with Putin and fled to the UK, Glushkov was charged with money laundering and fraud. He spent five years in jail and was freed in 2004. In recent years, Glushkov had lived in London, where he received political asylum. In 2011, he gave evidence at the court case brought by Berezovsky against his fellow oligarch Roman Abramovich, who remained on good terms with the Kremlin.
Dinarius wrote: » Playing devil's advocate.... 1. If you wanted to kill someone, would you make it so screamingly obvious that it might be you (i.e. Russia) by using a nerve agent that you are known to possess or be an expert in? Or would you take him out using a standard, untraceable method - gun sourced in UK, knife, strangulation, whatever...? 2. If you really wanted the PR, yes, you would use a chemical nerve agent you were known to possess. But, did Vlad need the publicity? Makes him look macho in the run in to the election, perhaps? 3. If you wanted to frame someone, would you (e.g. MI5/MI6) use a chemical nerve agent known to be associated with an enemy, to take out someone they themselves would like to see dead? You might well do. 4. ....anything else? Whatever the truth of what has happened in Salisbury, it has all the hallmarks of bad James Bond. D.
Dohnjoe wrote: » The Kremlin has been offing political opponents, ex-spies, journalists, lawyers, etc for decades.. it doesn't affect Putin in the polls in the slightest
With low support, Yeltsin resorted to some means to realize the turnaround: money, control of the mass media, use of "black arts" to disrupt the Communists' campaign and manipulation of the vote count. Russia's electoral law limited campaign spending to $3 million for each candidate. The Communist Party did not have the financial resources to overspend the limit. However, estimates of the funds spent by the Yeltsin campaign range from $700 million to $2 billion.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » News today. The Russian military has threatened action against the U.S. if it strikes Syria's capital city of Damascus, according to multiple news reports. The threat, by Chief of Russia's General Staff Valery Gerasimov, was widely reported by Russia media sites such as state news agency RIA and Tass. It said Gerasimov said Russia had "reliable information" about militants preparing to falsify a government chemical attack against civilians. Gerasimov said Russia would respond to a U.S. strike on Syria if the lives of Russian servicemen were threatened, targeting any missiles and launchers involved. "In case there is a threat to the lives of our military, the Russian Armed Force will take retaliatory measures both over the missiles and carriers that will use them," he said.
