RoboKlopp wrote: » John Connors having a meltdown, threatening to sue people.
gozunda wrote: » Is that you John? Ridiculous? "Locking up those lads for what they done last night" Yeah that's ridiculous yeah right! No they were not just 'looting a supermarket" : :rolleyes: They tore the fracking place down with a digger - after breaking into it - after robbing it - and stealing the safe and contents!! Oh and going up to 30 people out of a job and then attack a Centre supermarket as well! In the UK the average length of sentence was almost four times as long as thay given for similar offences. That trend has continued and imo should be implemented here for scrotes that get involved in serious law and disorder incidents like that to send out a message for others and to stop those who choose to get involved ever reoffending again.
_Dara_ wrote: » I'm not overanalysing it; it's very simple. LIDL is a discount retailer but he thinks they charge too much. Interesting insight into his mindset.
pc7 wrote: » That also pays their staff a living wage. I am beyond shocked at the carry on in Tallaght, absolutely disgusting. You’ll have the bleeding hearts on Joe Duffy Monday ‘aw joe ders nuthin for de kids round here anal’
Plague Maiden wrote: » You're either mistakenly or deliberately misrepresenting my remarks. I never said that a prison sentence for last night's events was ridiculous. I said that a mandatory life sentence, which would be 25-30 years, for last night's events was a ridiculous suggestion. By all means disagree with me but don't put words in my mouth.
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Plague Maiden wrote: » I don't have a soft attitude. I work in the legal system and the lack of consistency in sentencing sickens me, particularly in the District Court (although, admittedly, the perpetrator's of last night's events will be put forward for trial at Circuit where they'll get more of what they deserve). I want to see people get stiffer penalties where appropriate. But 'appropriate' is the key word. Should last night's events lead to mandatory life sentences? Should the punishment for the destruction of private property be the same as that for murder? I think that's an utterly ridiculous suggestion. Worse, even. It's dangerous. Anyway, I came across this thread earlier this morning but it's only in the last few minutes I've realised the tenor of the arguments being put forward. People are just venting, and that's fine. But I'm not wasting my morning discussing penology with people that are suggesting slitting throats as an appropriate penalty. Good luck.
Patww79 wrote: » So, you don't agree then? Tip top argument there.
Plague Maiden wrote: » The suggestion that the State should systematically slit the throats of those convicted of criminal behaviour isn't an argument.
NinetyTwoTeam wrote: » I'm really dismayed now that my part of the country got barely any snow. Aldi had all the lovely Mothers Day stuff in today and there's plenty of diggers lying about idle. If capitalism was a fair system, we wouldn't have looting. It's not, so some members of the poor are going to take these opportunities when they come along. I wouldn't like to see it happen to a small business, but big greedy German companies that treat their employees like non-humans, timing their every move, spying on them (google it), fine by me. What I'd really love to see is some looting and destruction of an Apple building. They owe billions and we can't even give sick or injured OAPs a bed in hospital when they need one.
Patww79 wrote: » The state? Where did I say that?
gozunda wrote: » There were residents on Facebook etc in that area last night who were in fear of their and their familie safety last when that shyte was going on. Rioting and looting are significant public order and endangerment issues for ordinary people. How long before the same scrotes if decide that Joe down the road who bought his own house/ has a job is a valid target cos he might have some money at etc It's not just robbing- it's not just a simple crime - it's organised criminality against ordinery people - law and order and society as a whole.
Richard Hillman wrote: » They even pay the living wage. If these folk lose their jobs and go to work for another retailer they'll be down around €80 a week, 4k a year.
Patww79 wrote: » If it works it works. Sadly it won't go that far and this will only be the start of their 'careers'.
Manic Moran wrote: » I have to say, I have never heard of this John Connors person before today (I thought he was a Terminator character?). If nothing else, at least it's publicity. As for the shooting looters thing... I don't think so. Sure, back in my neck of the woods, Mayor Smitz proclaimed "The Federal Troops, the members of the Regular Police Force and all Special Police Officers have been authorized by me to KILL any and all persons found engaged in Looting or in the Commission of Any Other Crime." And it worked. But that was in a total breakdown of the city. This isn't a breakdown, it was an opportunistic one-off by idiots who filmed themselves. I would think the Gardai are going to have a few clues to work with.
doylefe wrote: » One article says 'A source said: "A large, violent gang of well known criminals targeted the Lidl earlier in the day and then stole the JCB excavator that was being used to clear ice."' Also mentions barricades the army had to smash through. The digger and safe aspect sound very organized. Well known criminals...
McGaggs wrote: » It seems like a lot of effort to get some change and a few fifties. I can't imagine a dirt cheap shop in a poor area is going to have much cash on site (even if there hasn't been a drop off to the bank in a while).
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