jmayo wrote: » Have you compared some of those apartments in Europe and what spaces are available nearby for kids with what has historically been on offer in Ireland ? Wait till your kid gets bigger or you have another one and I would bet tonight's lottery you will be on the move out of that apartment of yours.
Idbatterim wrote: » nail on the head with the above, government insists on rip off property here. At local level, they do it to (as they see it) protect existing residents, to ensure they maintain their seats the next time there is a vote and at national level, they want to stymy Dublins development as much as possible, so it doesnt gain more influence. What the idiots are doing by this, is simply damaging Ireland Inc! They bitch about a lack of resources i.e. money and they wonder why! because they are strangling the golden goose!i hear this bull**** of rural life dying, the post office, the garda stations. If it means so much, why not increase the LPT? or is a an extra 50c or a euro a day, too much to ask? for better roads and increased services etc? buses to bring them to the pub, because the elderly here certainly arent lacking in cash, with the ridiculous generosity shown to them by the irish tax payer... The problem here is, its never problem solving, its problem dodging, point the finger. Infighting!
Tell me how wrote: » The rest of your post is an example of that which you decry in the bold part.
Idbatterim wrote: » nail on the head with the above, government insists on rip off property here. At local level, they do it to (as they see it) protect existing residents, to ensure they maintain their seats the next time there is a vote and at national level, they want to stymy Dublins development as much as possible, so it doesnt gain more influence. What the idiots are doing by this, is simply damaging Ireland Inc! They bitch about a lack of resources i.e. money and they wonder why! because they are strangling the golden goose! i hear this bull**** of rural life dying, the post office, the garda stations. If it means so much, why not increase the LPT? or is a an extra 50c or a euro a day, too much to ask? for better roads and increased services etc? buses to bring them to the pub, because the elderly here certainly arent lacking in cash, with the ridiculous generosity shown to them by the irish tax payer... The problem here is, its never problem solving, its problem dodging, point the finger. Infighting!
Luka Lemon Town wrote: » Honestly what are you talking about? Vain? No it's very not vain it's having the house I want, you might be happy spending a few 100k on a small house or poky apartment and making do with that so you can live in other things people's laps but for me that just doesn't cut it. Having the house I want with the space, layout and facilities I want is far more important than being able to walk to a cafe.
AlmightyCushion wrote: » That's probably a hell of a lot more expensive. Looks class though.
osarusan wrote: » Rather than going underground, something like this would be better. Pedestrian areas over the roads (and buildings have entrances both at the ground floor and the upper floor too).
defrule wrote: » I think mentality is something that needs to really change on top of the all the tangible developments that should happen. As an example, where in Dublin do we have underground tunnels to cross roads? I never noticed we were missing these until I saw them in other cities. Instead of putting traffic lights everywhere, tunnels like these mean cars and pedestrians don't come into conflict. This mindset of really thinking about how to gain maximum utility from land including the vertical aspects is something we really need.
Idbatterim wrote: » nail on the head with the above, government insists on rip off property here. At local level, they do it to (as they see it) protect existing residents, to ensure they maintain their seats the next time there is a vote and at national level, they want to stymy Dublins development as much as possible, so it doesnt gain more influence. What the idiots are doing by this, is simply damaging Ireland Inc! They bitch about a lack of resources i.e. money and they wonder why! because they are strangling the golden goose! i hear this bull**** of rural life dying, the post office, the garda stations. If it means so much, why not increase the LPT? or is a an extra 50c or a euro a day, too much to ask? for better roads and increased services etc? buses to bring them to the pub, because the elderly here certainly arent lacking in cash, with the ridiculous generosity shown to them by the irish tax payer...The problem here is, its never problem solving, its problem dodging, point the finger. Infighting!
cgcsb wrote: » Yes, cities do that, have done since the industrial revolution and will continue to do so at an ever quickening pace. Even in China the land of eternal supply of cheap labour, labour costs are going up and they are outsourcing some jobs to Bangladesh. Have you ever left this country? Dublin is very spacious, more green space per capita than any other European capital. The only problem is that government has made it very very expensive to develop apartments with rules: -4 floors max -underground car park for every apartment even in Central Dublin which is full of carless households. -dual aspect -feck all one bed units -studios banned. This can be changed tomorrow if politicians wanted it too. Ironically it's often left leaning politicians that insist on making housing expensive with dual aspect, underground parking, min 2 beds etc.
Shurimgreat wrote: » Dublin is like a black hole sucking people in from outside of Dublin.
Shurimgreat wrote: » But for the sanity of Dubliners and to ease the accommodation crisis it needs to be done. There are only so many sardines you can squeeze into the tin.
Luka Lemon Town wrote: » A large proportion of rural dwellers commute to urban areas to work so their salaries are comparable in general. Rural homes tend to have more cars, newer and often more expensive cars. Vrt and vat on cars is a big expense. They spend more on fuel as they drive more which is a big cash cow for tax, they pay for water which had vat (urban dwellers refused to oay), they higher electricity thus more vat.
markodaly wrote: » Not at all. That word has entered the lexicon as other countries in the West want to adopt American type housing with gyms, games rooms, a movie theatre. In fact in Australia in some councils they have tried to ban these McMansions. If you are vain enough to want to be part of an episode of MTV Cribs then good luck to you. It does not mean that we, the tax payer should go on and subside your property for you and provide you with all the mod cons and services that are expensive to provide, such as fibre broadband to your house. Perhaps if you paid property tax on the Sq foot you had, perhaps you would change your tune? :rolleyes:
Tell me how wrote: » Yawn. Again.
Luka Lemon Town wrote: » The use of this term means any opinions surrounding it can be immediately dismissed. The word should be wiped from existence and shows nothing but begrudgery.
ncounties wrote: Awful idea from the decades where vast swathes of victorian, edwardian, and georgian architecture were demolished to make way for urban motorways. You may have noticed them, but did you use them? They are great if you like the smell of pi$$.
ncounties wrote: » Awful idea from the decades where vast swathes of victorian, edwardian, and georgian architecture were demolished to make way for urban motorways. You may have noticed them, but did you use them? They are great if you like the smell of pi$$. Most cities that stupidly entertained them have been doing their utmost to undo their mistakes, in particular, Birmingham.
Luka Lemon Town wrote: » A large proportion of rural dwellers commute to urban areas to work so their salaries are comparable in general. Rural homes tend to have more cars, newer and often more expensive cars. Vrt and vat on cars is a big expense. They spend more on fuel as they drive more which is a big cash cow for tax, they pay for water which had vat (urban dwellers refused to oay), they higher electricity thus more vat. I'm not saying the cost of living is higher overall as it's obviously not, the cost of housing is far far higher and yes that means a higher stamp duty but this is a once off.
markodaly wrote: I am sorry but who is saying that Dublin is the pinnacle? Stop making false arguments with no one, you will be take more seriously in the points you make.
markodaly wrote: » McMansion .
MayoSalmon wrote: » This average rural dweller earns less than the average urban dweller so immediately no they don't. The cost of living is also more expensive in cities there urban dwellers are paying more VAT.
LeinsterDub wrote: » Eh yeah I'm going to need to see a link for this outrageous claim.
Luka Lemon Town wrote: » The average individual tax payer living in a rural area pays the same or possibly more tax than the average urban dweller so yes people living in rural areas pay their taxes and deserve to benefit from these taxes.
Kye High Lacrosse wrote: The average individual tax payer living in a rural area pays the same or possibly more tax than the average urban dweller so yes people living in rural areas pay their taxes and deserve to benefit from these taxes.
Tell me how wrote: » My objection to the way society in Ireland has developed is the portrayal that the Dublin model is the pinnacle and everything else should support this. .
Luka Lemon Town wrote: » For me you can't put a high enough value on space, for me space is comfort. I hate living in small houses where everything is on top of everything else and you struggle to even put an new item on the worktop or put out a clothes horse without it being in the way. Having grown up in the country and being used to space I've found the time I've spent living in estates getting old very fast and this is without kids. I currently live in a 3 bed semi with just my oh, its average size for most estates and I personally find it extremely cramped, considering lots in the estate have 2 or 3 kids as well in the same house I just don't know how they tolerate it. I hate clutter and you can't but be cluttered in a house where you have no designated place for a clothes horse or where a normal sized kitchen table take so up a large percentage of the room, or where the counter top just isnt big enough or the bedrooms and wardrobes are too small, ensuite is too small, no storage etc. Then what about a second sitting room, home office, proper utility room for laundry equipment, chest freezer etc, games room, (pool, darts, bar etc) server room for all electronics, multiple ensuite bedrooms, walk in hot press etc these are the things I want in a house We currently have a master bedroom, second double room which is used as a walk in wardrobe by my oh and a box room which is used for storage and is full of stuff, can barely get in the door. I have no idea how you could live in a house this size with even a baby never mind older kids and that's also taking into account that I still have my bedroom at the home house which I keep stuff in and store lots of other stuff at home too. To put it in perspective I've stated the early stages of a plan for building my own place and the master bedroom, ensuite and walk in wardrobe (more of a room in its own right really) will be a similar size to the entire upstairs of the house I'm currently in (which has 3 bedrooms, a bathroom and a hot press upstairs). The kitchen would be a similar size to the entire downstairs of the house I currently live in. So just two room would be give or take as big as a 3 bed semi, this is the type of space I'm after along with all the types of rooms I described above and more possibly. That's before going outside and having a multiple car garage, gardens where if/when kids come along they can play unsupervised rather than having to stay with them in a park etc. Only neighbours close by would be my parents and relations so great relationship with them (and also a major reason for living there to be close to family), no worries about sound, can blast music as loud as possible and it won't be heard or watch a move late at night on surround sound and not worry about next door etc. There is a school 5 mins drive away, a town 10 mins drive away and a city 25 mins drive away where I can get any of the amenities you have while still have the what I see as essentials such as space, the house I want, privacy, surrounded by family, country side with nice views etc.
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