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Eir rural FTTH thread

rob808

I made this thread for people on eir rural blue line FTTH please keep here and don't post in Eircom FTTH 66 towns 1 Gb thread about rural FTTH rollout.

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Pangea

My 'My Eir' account is still banjaxed since I had problems with my account last year, tech support has no idea whats wrong, nothing loads for me, bills, usage etc.
The guy mentioned maybe re-registering it, does anyone know what happens if you remove your account from the My Eir Site?

tsue921i8wljb3

Jpmarn wrote: »

It means that some of the roads from your exchange is going live. But judging from the photos your road won't be live for another month or two. DP boxes are still missing on the poles. I am not sure wether the underground duct have been fed Fibre cable or not.

Changing topics slightly from a few post back there were a lot of weekend work done over the last year. The main fibre cables on my road went up on a Saturday. The black DP splice boxes went up on a another Saturday a month later. And I was connected on Saturday 6th October last.

I think that is the box you can see wrapped with blue rope towards the base of the pole. If I remember correctly KeRbDoG posted a picture previously where it appeared the box had fallen off the pole.

KeRbDoG

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

I think that is the box you can see wrapped with blue rope towards the base of the pole. If I remember correctly KeRbDoG posted a picture previously where it appeared the box had fallen off the pole.

They since came back and mounted it correctly - turns out electrical tape isn't structural

Gonzo

Airwire seem to be now offering their service on OpenEir's FTTH lines. I am hoping that this can be ordered from anywhere in Ireland on Eir's network?

Last time I looked they were just selling for Siro.

They offering the same 300/50 plan that I'm on with Eir with a 2tb allowance and it's 5 euros cheaper per month! Would have to take out an 18 month contract in order to get free router and free move from Eir. Certainly something worth considering.

http://www.airwire.ie/index.php/products/ruralftth

Marlow

Gonzo wrote: »

Airwire seem to be now offering their service on OpenEir's FTTH lines. I am hoping that this can be ordered from anywhere in Ireland on Eir's network?

Last time I looked they were just selling for Siro.

Nah ... it's always been both networks. OpenEIR just didn't have Airwire listed on http://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/where-to-buy/ for ages and the products page wasn't very clear. Well, OpenEIR since November anyhow.

/M

fritzelly

€199 setup on Airwire tho - still not worth it from the off
But some nasty additional charges. What do they mean non Airwire service charge?

But shows eir need to up their game with the incremental download speeds/BW allowance - like how Airwire do it

Marlow

fritzelly wrote: »

But some nasty additional charges. What do they mean non Airwire service charge?

Have a look in the small print of other providers and see, what they hide there

If your dog chews up your ONT, you drop an open can of coke on it or you ring the provider, get an engineer out, because you were too daft to push the button to turn on the wifi on your router, then you deserve to be charged

fritzelly

Marlow wrote: »

Have a look in the small print of other providers and see, what they hide there

Probably, don't know anyone else charging to port your number tho and moving provider when there's already a line in...?

Gonna be fun in 12-18 months time when everyone's contracts are starting to be up for renewal

Marlow

fritzelly wrote: »

Probably, don't know anyone else charging to port your number tho and moving provider when there's already a line in...?

Gonna be fun in 12-18 months time when everyone's contracts are starting to be up for renewal

Well, most of the other providers don't give an option of a 6 or 12 months contract. You'd have to compare like for like.

And porting an existing number is probably a charge, that many providers just eat up.

But as for contracts being up for renewal. That's happening right now with Eirs price hikes. It's actually really interesting for the FTTH lines put in, that Eir forked out what .. 300-500 EUR (270+vat installation and up to 200 EUR towards leaving your provider). I can't see them making a profit on any customer they loose at all.

Anyone, that got the letter with the price increase can basically just leave. No penalty. Hence various providers have put incentives on their website.

/M

irishfeen

Was talking to Eir and they have told me that the houses selected in the 300k FTTH are “locked down” in a contractural deal with the government.

So any houses not marked on the map (we are 700m away from planned houses) like ourselves are out of luck

Vegeta

So I got FTTH installed today. Unfortunately I was away from home when the install was done so I could not test the speed myself after the install. I opted for the 150mb service. I just ran 3 tests in a row using the Speed Test app on my phone and am only getting 50mb. Does it take eir a bit of time to increase the speed or is something up?

fritzelly

Vegeta wrote: »

3 tests in a row using the Speed Test app on my phone

There's your problem right there

Vegeta

fritzelly wrote: »

There's your problem right there

Really, I've gotten over 140mbps before using the same app beside certain 4g+ masts. I'll try the laptop and an ethernet cable now

fritzelly

Vegeta wrote: »

Really, I've gotten over 140mbps before using the same app beside certain 4g+ masts. I'll try the laptop and an ethernet cable now

Enough posts flying around about the wifi on the eir router and even at that speed eir wouldn't consider it a problem

Vegeta

fritzelly wrote: »

Enough posts flying around about the wifi on the eir router and even at that speed eir wouldn't consider it a problem

Balls, must get a new router so. I'd seen some chatter about the routers but didn't pay much attention.

tsue921i8wljb3

Vegeta wrote: »

Balls, must get a new router so. I'd seen some chatter about the routers but didn't pay much attention.

Don't automatically blame the router. Was the test done on 2.4 or 5Ghz, are there other WiFi networks nearby that could be on the same frequency? There is a lot to investigate before you go spending more money.

Vegeta

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Don't automatically blame the router. Was the test done on 2.4 or 5Ghz, are there other WiFi networks nearby that could be on the same frequency? There is a lot to investigate before you go spending more money.

2.4Ghz, no other networks nearby

tsue921i8wljb3

Vegeta wrote: »

2.4Ghz, no other networks nearby

What phone is it?

Vegeta

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

What phone is it?

One Plus 3T

Vegeta

So I just checked with an iPad Pro and it's doing close to the 150 and 30. So my phone is the problem I guess

fritzelly

Vegeta wrote: »

So I just checked with an iPad Pro and it's doing close to the 150 and 30. So my phone is the problem I guess

Not necessarily the phone but any speed tests on it are not a reliable indication of your real download speed
3T should easily be able to get more than that but as mentioned above - the router, other interference/factors etc

tsue921i8wljb3

Vegeta wrote: »

One Plus 3T

Firstly confirm that you are getting close to 150Mb on a wired connection. Then try the 5Ghz although the range will not be as good as 2.4. I would also consider setting a fixed channel for both 2.4 and 5Ghz in the router.

tsue921i8wljb3

Vegeta what firmware version is the router running? If you go to the login page and click on "Status Information" it should be listed there.

Vegeta

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Vegeta what firmware version is the router running? If you go to the login page and click on "Status Information" it should be listed there.

I'll be afk for the next 2 hrs but will check asap

Marlow

Vegeta wrote: »

Really, I've gotten over 140mbps before using the same app beside certain 4g+ masts. I'll try the laptop and an ethernet cable now

a) the Eir router is the worst c*** ever manufactured. Vodafone uses it too. I've got one here, that has never been turned on and serves only as a door stop.

b) you getting 140 Mbit/s of 4G is an entire different radio (in your cellphone), than your wireless card (in your cellphone). You can't take that as a comparison.

It doesn't matter, if your phone is able to produce enough data to run a 140 Mbit/s speedtest when the limiting factor is a crap wifi connection. To then compare it to a test on 4G is like saying: I'm wondering, why my car isn't as fast in reverse, as it can go forward ? ..... different gears, man.

Having said all that: Speedtests to test the line should ALWAYS be done with a computer wired to the router with a cable. Introducing other culprits is never going to give you any usable result.

/M

The Cush

According to a proposed update to the NGA IPM Open-eir are to add FTTH Drop Length Indicator and the availability of FTTH infrastructure for premises which qualify for FTTH on a NGA Line Enquiry (NLE) Order.

fritzelly

Think I understand that...maybe

tsue921i8wljb3

The Cush wrote: »

According to a proposed update to the NGA IPM Open-eir are to add FTTH Drop Length Indicator and the availability of FTTH infrastructure for premises which qualify for FTTH on a NGA Line Enquiry (NLE) Order.

I wonder how they are ascertaining those distances. Would it be from satellite or aerial data do you think?

Gboyd

I just want to check something with you guys. On the attached picture you can see my house (and garage 🤷*♂️) with the envelope and the blue icon for FTTH. This is currently showing as Winter 2018.

However, literally across the road there is the icon for a fibre cabinet which is now dark green and showing as fibre services in the roll out phase.

Now there currently isn’t any broadband services from this exchange at all, so the introduction of FTTC would still be a dramatic improvement.

But am I correct in saying that given my properties proximity to the fibre cabinet there’s no chance I’ll be getting FTTH?

The Cush

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

I wonder how they are ascertaining those distances. Would it be from satellite or aerial data do you think?

Looks like desktop exercise using eircode and infrastructure coordinates

FTH_Length_Ind
Provides an indication only of the distance from the coordinates of the Eircode to the nearest open eir infrastructure or public road