MayoAreMagic wrote: Post the parts where a) it states the black card rules dont apppy if you pull the jersey, and b) it stipulates that both players must end up on the ground.
MayoAreMagic wrote: Also, i remember the comer quick free. Boyle didnt pull him back, he fouled him in the tackle and got a yellow for it.
MayoAreMagic wrote: Thanks
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Nobody is claiming that those are the reasons mayo lost though. We accept we deserved to lose the game. Maybe, just maybe, if you read what people have to say, you mighnt need this pointes out
Happyilylost wrote: » 5.5 To hold an opponent with the hand(s). 5.6 To use the fist on or around the body of an opponent for the purpose of dispossessing him of the ball. 5.7 (a) To charge an opponent in the back or to the front. (b) To charge an opponent : (i) who is not in possession of the ball, or (ii) is in the act of kicking the ball, or (iii) If both players are not moving in the direction of the ball to play it. (c) To charge an opponent for the purpose of giving an advantage to a team-mate. PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS- (i) Free kick from where the foul occurred except as provided under Exceptions of Rule 2.2. (ii) Caution offender for committing any of the above fouls a second time. Order off for a further repetition or for other c 5.5 deals with holding and pulling someone one back. Category II Infractions – Cynical Behaviour 5.10 To deliberately pull down an opponent. 5.11 To deliberately trip an opponent with hand(s), arm, leg or foot. 5.12 To deliberately collide with an opponent after he has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking him out of the movement of play. 5.13 To remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official.. PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS - (i) Order the offender off by showing him a Black Card. (ii) Allow a replacement from within the substitutions permitted in Rule 2.4, Rules of Specification. (iii)Free kick from where the foul occurred except as provided under Exceptions of Rule 2.2. 5.14 To threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent or team- mate. PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS - (i) Order the offender off by showing him a Black Card. (ii) Allow a replacement from within the substitutions permitted in Rule 2.4, Rules This deals with black cards. Number one and top of the pile.. Pull an opponent down. Not back. Down. Pulling of shirts happens a hundred times in every game. Durcan had so much of Shane Walshs I hope he got it after the game.
Poor_old_gill wrote: » You personally are going on about Galway being cynical when Mayo are well able to mix it on that front. You also blamed Kerry's cynicism last week- I know theres pride in being consistent but you're consistently wrong. It's always the default- start attacking the other team to try cover up/make excuses for Mayo's failings.
km79 wrote: » Open season on O she’a again today Again he gets a yellow Discuss
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Sorry, there is no mention of pulling of the jersey not being a black card, and there is no mention of both players having to end up on the ground for it to be a black card. That is what you suggested so you need to provide exactly that.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » I never said they werent well able to mix it. I simply observed that galway employ cynical tactics. I admit mayo have done on occasion. Can you admit galway did it on this occasion?
Fann Linn wrote: » There's no mention of it being one either.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » 'A pull down' - ie if you pull a guy in a cynical fashion and he ends up on the ground because of it.
PCeeeee wrote: » Where are you getting that definition of 'pull down' from?
MayoAreMagic wrote: » A guy is pulled in a cyncial fashion and he goes down because of it...
munster87 wrote: » Pulled down is not the same as being pulled back and falling as a result
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Falling or being knocked? It was in mcloughlins interests to stay up after all... In the context of cynical tackles i dont see how it does differ to be honest with you. The only guys who might want it to are guys who want to engineer a loophole into the rule so their own guy gets off a from a deserved punishment. Or in other words, turkeys voting for christmas
DDC1990 wrote: » Nope, David Coldrick and Pat McEneaney will set you straight on that one in the video above. A pull down, is where the player pulls the player "all the way to the ground". They state several times that if a player is pulled and ends up on the ground it is not a black card.
ArielAtom wrote: » Great deflection, talk about a black card when the real talking point was COC leading with an elbow to the head. He’ll be a marked man with refs come the summer. His antics catching up it seems.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Actually they have set me straight. 'Deliberate fouls. The key word is deliberate' This was a deliberate cynical foul where the guy was pulled to the extent of ending up on the ground. Nailed on black card by their interpretation too.
yop wrote: » The "loss" of COC will be interesting, I expect us to possible play better and not funnel it all through him now, could be wrong.
yop wrote: » 5 pages most of it the same Sh88te. It was a black or wasn't a black, big deal. Go to PM lads, its beyond boring. The game itself, we were out fought and out classed. COC deservered his red, its been coming. He needs to sit out for a while, get this head and boots back. DOC was a yellow and deserved them both. Galway were as equal on the cynical side, but were better at doing it out of sight, part of the game, if Mayo did I more I wouldn't complain, so not going to start now. AOS had a good game, fought well, took a lot of abuse, how he doesn't explode is admirable. Durkan ran a lot but was up against blanket defense so didn't make much headway. We had plan A and that was about it, ran into a wall and couldn't handle it and thats a pattern for a number of years now. Good to see new lads blooded, has to be done. Caff is end of days now, can't see what he brings to the team, though it says a lot for what is in the squad also. Better team won, won it at all costs, thats what you have to do. Maybe will need to get a result in Kildare and win in Tyrone. Donegal win away isn't going to be happening I expect. Dublin will canter against us unless we have a big transplant. The "loss" of COC will be interesting, I expect us to possible play better and not funnel it all through him now, could be wrong.
irishgeo wrote: » anyone for the rugby rule where cumulative fouls can lead to a black card. The carry on at the end which happened right in front of me could have seen a lot more cards.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » irishgeo wrote: » anyone for the rugby rule where cumulative fouls can lead to a black card. The carry on at the end which happened right in front of me could have seen a lot more cards. Its already supposed to be a yellow. Shanahan got his second yellow for persistant fouling last week. The ref just didnt implement the rules correctly. Changing it to a black isnt going to cure that. The carry on the at end was a disgrace. Why does the gaa let those things go unpunished?
