MayoSalmon wrote: » Have a google there
RGDATA! wrote: » Who is he a parody of anyway?
smurgen wrote: » Ulysses Gaze wrote: » Young men absolutely do not need third or fourth waves bonkers feminism to help them. Or Blindboy Boatrace. They'd be better off listening to clinical psychologists like Jordan Peterson or even feminists like Camille Paglia on how to improve their lives. Exactly I listened to alot of Jordan Peterson's work i heard the Channel 4 interview and it resonated with me alot more than any of the stuff i've heard come out of Blindboys.
Ulysses Gaze wrote: » Young men absolutely do not need third or fourth waves bonkers feminism to help them. Or Blindboy Boatrace. They'd be better off listening to clinical psychologists like Jordan Peterson or even feminists like Camille Paglia on how to improve their lives.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » The point of this thread it’s to push the first approach by delegitimising Blindboy message because of his appearance and use of comedy to reach people.
The Moldy Gowl wrote: » Of course it exists. It's right in front of you everywhere you look. Just because you can see if for what it is, doesn't mean others can't. I don't disagree it's a bit load of spoof because it is but that lad culture and big manly men is right there. You don't think young men or insecure men dont get affected by that? They are thinking why am I not getting girls, why am I not 7 foot tall with a beard and women hanging out of me. Why am I balding? I'm short, fat, and ugly, this version of me will never have the confidence to talk to a woman. Maybe if I start acting like them I'll be a legend like them. How does it not exist?
Nabber wrote: Feminism try’s to make two unequal things equal. Lemons and Limes. Neither is better, neither is equal, both have their own purpose.. Both are a citrus fruit
Nabber wrote: » Nonsense. You are using physical appearance as your base argument. Women suffer the same peer pressure as men. One could argue that the female version of the lad is more powerful in her gender than is with the male. Women and men threat it differently. Majority of men would likely choose power over looks. Could the same be said for women? Feminism try’s to make two unequal things equal. Lemons and Limes. Neither is better, neither is equal, both have their own purpose.. Both are a citrus fruit
beautyobsessed wrote: » I cannot take a priviledged middle class moron with a Tesco / or spar bag on his head faking a working class Limerick accent seriously - I just can't.
The Moldy Gowl wrote: » Why not? It's a character or stage persona like millions of other entertainers. It's a juxtaposition
Sky King wrote: » Wrong. The point of the thread is that blind boy is not a real person, he's a persona. A persona that sniffs glue and rides around on a horse. I find it amazing that a glue sniffing horse riding comedy persona is given a platform to discuss serious topics alongside serious people. For me this is akin to father Dougal McGuire, Mrs Brown and Alan Partridge discussing mental health. They are all character / personas too. They're not real. Yet people on panel shows engage with blind boy on important topics without a shred of irony. I can't believe self respecting people do that.
buried wrote: » Don't be listening to some lad with a bag on his head. Go down the courthouse and listen to what the man in the high chair wearing a ridiculous 17th century wig dressed up as Dracula has to say about what happens to peoples lives instead. These days its seems that some people don't want anybody, bag on their head or no, coming forward and trying to discuss issues such as mental health or trying to live a responsible life. Rather Just keep your f**king mouth shut, rot in grim stale mediocrity and wait for the government to let you know what time you can go for a p!ss.
smurgen wrote: » You right man,the Rubberbandits will save us from all of that.
MayoSalmon wrote: » So being a man can be toxic?! Yeah get the boat. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a man no matter what baseless assumptions you try to find. This stereotyping is yet another identity politics ploy by the left which are always trying to diagnose how other groups act as oppressors.
Sky King wrote: » El_Duderino 09 wrote: » The point of this thread it’s to push the first approach by delegitimising Blindboy message because of his appearance and use of comedy to reach people. Wrong. The point of the thread is that blind boy is not a real person, he's a persona. A persona that sniffs glue and rides around on a horse. I find it amazing that a glue sniffing horse riding comedy persona is given a platform to discuss serious topics alongside serious people. For me this is akin to father Dougal McGuire, Mrs Brown and Alan Partridge discussing mental health. They are all character / personas too. They're not real. Yet people on panel shows engage with blind boy on important topics without a shred of irony. I can't believe self respecting people do that.
smurgen wrote: » It's not a character though.sacha baron cohen does charater and persona perfectly as he plays characters to expose our inner biases and the biases if those he interacts with in bruno,borat etc.it doesn't work in relation to blindboy boatclub because he's mixing the persona of the character with his own views.it's a mess.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Oh lads. If I hear this once more I’m going to burst. I don’t think anyone gas said bring a man is toxic. But there are some obviously harmful things which are taught to men more than they’re taught to women. E.g. stoicism is manly, boys don’t cry, men ought not show weakness. These things are taught to men and they’re harmful in the long run because of the effect of bottling up emotions in some people is harmful. He simply says that’s unhelpful. The cult of Jordan Peterson is an interesting one. The people who rail against Blindboy for saying men should be free to show emotion, tend to fans of Peterson who happens to be an emotionless, humourless, stoic in the way he presents himself. Is that a coincidence? I doubt it.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » The cult of Jordan Peterson is an interesting one. The people who rail against Blindboy for saying men should be free to show emotion, tend to fans of Peterson who happens to be an emotionless, humourless, stoic in the way he presents himself. Is that a coincidence? I doubt it.
irishguitarlad wrote: » Jordan Peterson seems to me to be the stupid mans philosopher, his views on postmodernism and deconstruction are hilarious.
Sky King wrote: » I don't agree with everything he says but he does make some compelling points and he makes them well. I've been looking for some robust debate which disagrees with his assertions in the interests of educating myself further. Ive seen lots of sneering commentary like yours saying he's the stupid man's smart man, but intelligent rebuttals are much harder to find.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: Oh lads. If I hear this once more I’m going to burst. I don’t think anyone gas said bring a man is toxic. But there are some obviously harmful things which are taught to men more than they’re taught to women. E.g. stoicism is manly, boys don’t cry, men ought not show weakness.
Hans Bricks wrote: » Is it just me or is this feminism & "toxic masculinity" crisis mostly just a bluster of nothing confined to the internet and the social media whores ? I've never once discussed with or overheard these type of arguments with or between men and women in real life. Whether they be friends, family, work colleagues, strangers in public ... I only encounter these two subjects here on Boards, Reddit & Twitter mostly. Feminism appears to be only important to the dyed hair, tomboys and "feminazi" fearing Jordan Peterson following males and the white knight "male feminists" who share pitiful repeal memes on the Irish Simpsons Facebook fan page.
