the sheriff is HERE wrote: » i personally think its a great idea, protection of life, yer are all been watched, try to minimize gangland killings.
the sheriff is HERE wrote: i personally think its a great idea, protection of life, yer are all been watched, try to minimize gangland killings.
Are Am Eye wrote: » You're absolutely right. But that is an overt surveillance operation.
Cazale wrote: » The photo identification of Patrick Hutch has been ruled admissible by the judge so the trial continues.
benny79 wrote: » He will definitely walk now sure what other evidence is there?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » the evidence was ruled admissible not inadmissible so he will definitely not walk.
Gardaí investigating the murder of Derek Coakley Hutch have released CCTV images of the car they believe was used by the suspects. Derek Hutch, also known as Derek Coakley, was shot dead at the Bridgeview Halting Site in Ronanstown almost two weeks ago. The 27-year-old had previously been warned his life was in danger. The father-of-two was buried in Glasnevin Cemetery and is survived by his mother Noleen, his partner Nikita, his children and his brother Nathan. He is the 14th victim of the ongoing Hutch - Kinahan feud in the city. Detectives are trying to establish the movements of a black Toyota Avensis registration 04-D-72956 in the days prior to the murder, and the hours immediately after it. It is believed that those involved in the murder transferred to the Avensis at Crag Avenue, Clondalkin, Dublin 22 after setting fire to a VW Golf, registration 05-CE-1675, which was used in the murder. The Avensis was then found on fire at Snowdrop Walk, Darndale, Dublin 17 at 6.25pm on the January 20, just over three hours after the murder.
begbysback wrote: » Not so sure - if what I read is true, that only 2 out of some hundred could identify the person in the photo, then he should still walk, unless some sort of facial recognition technology is also used as evidence. It would make the DPP and the Garda a joke if he walks - so somehow I think a non jury court will see he doesn't, given the current climate.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » the court has decided that the evidence is admissible. They accept that he was the person dressed as a woman.https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2018/0202/937822-regency/
begbysback wrote: » Don't have a great legal understanding here, but I believe that states it has been accepted as evedince, rather than fact it is him in the picture - difference being that no judgement has been made whether it is him or not in the picture, just that the picture can be presented as evidence. And imo, on its own, insufficient for a conviction.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » the evidence will be that it was him dressed as a woman. shown carrying a handgun into the hotel. the defence will have a hard time convincing a judge otherwise. he's fecked. his only chance of getting off with this is gone.
begbysback wrote: » Like I already said, if what I read is true then the prosecution can present 2 people who say they are sure it's him, the defence can present 20 who say they cannot identify him as the person in the picture, and they already knew him.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » "I cannot identify him" is not the same as "it isn't him".
pablo128 wrote: » Well you could say the same about the prosecution so.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » except the prosecution have witnesses that say it is him
the sheriff is HERE wrote: » the van has me puzzled, maybe from a car dealership, it wouldn't if bought cost hundreds more like thousands. would the ballymun guy, be flush with cash and gun used roughly 1000 dollars from what ive seen, and just left in the van. another question is ken foy for the herald and independent a real person or a pseudonym?
pablo128 wrote: » They can say it is him all they like. They have to prove it beyond reasonable doubt though.
DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: » I frequent a few organised crime sites around the internet and everyone agrees that this Irish thing is insane. It's like Chicago in the 1920s, lads been gunned down right left and centre on the streets. The likes of the mob in New York these days only use murder as a last resort, and even then they dispose of the body. They realised that the crazy days of past decades caused massive damage to all five families with numerous members going down for life. Their lot has improved in recent years since the decision was made to cutback on senseless violence, coupled with the fact that the Feds began focusing more on terrorism post 9/11. These Irish don't seem to have the sense to realise that murder is bad for business
Benteke wrote: » They just need to convince 3 judges and they have because they have allowed it as evidence, You know this is in the special criminals court don't you?
thebaz wrote: » DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: » I frequent a few organised crime sites around the internet and everyone agrees that this Irish thing is insane. It's like Chicago in the 1920s, lads been gunned down right left and centre on the streets. The likes of the mob in New York these days only use murder as a last resort, and even then they dispose of the body. They realised that the crazy days of past decades caused massive damage to all five families with numerous members going down for life. Their lot has improved in recent years since the decision was made to cutback on senseless violence, coupled with the fact that the Feds began focusing more on terrorism post 9/11. These Irish don't seem to have the sense to realise that murder is bad for business thers gangland shootings in south Chicago, Memphis and St Louis most nights - gangs have changed - yes New York crime has certainly gone down.
Captain Obvious wrote: » My understanding is they have accepted it is evidence but they haven't ruled on how compelling it it. They might still decide two Gardaí isn't convincing enough to convict.
