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The Academies

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List of every player currently in one of the four Irish academies.

Loosehead Ed Byrne
Loosehead Jack O'Connell
Loosehead Kyle McCall
Loosehead Finlay Bealham
Loosehead James Cronin
Loosehead/Hooker James Treacy
Hooker Niall Scannell
Hooker Brian Byrne
Hooker David Doyle
Hooker Jonny Murphy
Hooker Kevin O'Byrne
Hooker Duncan Casey
Hooker James Rael
Tighthead Martin Moore
Tighthead Tadhg Furlong
Tighthead Conor Carey
Tighthead Jake Caulfield
Tighthead Jamie Dever
Tighthead Peter Reilly
Lock Cathal O'Flaherty
Lock Tadhg Beirne
Lock Gavin Thornbury
Lock Alan O'Connor
Lock James Simpson
Lock Daniel Qualter
Lock Ultan Dilane
Lock Philip Donnellan
Lock Brian Hayes
Flanker/Lock Ben Marshall
Flanker Dan Leavy
Flanker Conor Gilsenan
Flanker Josh Van Der Flier
Flanker Jordi Murphy
Flanker Conor Joyce
Flanker Neil Faloon
Flanker Aaron Conneely
Flanker David Heffernan
Flanker Jonathan Gardiner
Flanker Shane Buckley
Flanker Ryan Murphy
Eight Jack Conan
Eight Sean O'Connell
Eight Jack O'Donoghue
Scrum Half Luke McGrath
Scrum Half Marcus Walsh
Scrum Half Kieran Marmion(may have signed a non academy contract recently)
Scrum Half Brian Haugh
Outhalf Cathal Marsh
Outhalf Noel Reid
Outhalf Stuart Olding
Outhalf Jack Carty
Outhalf Tadgh Leader
Outhalf Johnny Holland
Centre Cian Bohane
Centre Jordan Coughlan
Centre Colm O'Shea
Centre Chris Farrell
Centre Corey Hircock
Centre Harry McNulty
Centre/Fullback Robbie Henshaw(may have signed a non academy contract recently)
Wing Andrew Boyle
Wing Sam Coughlan Murray
Wing Conor Finn
Wing Steve Macauley
Wing Ronan O'Mahony
Wing/Fullback Darren Hudson
Wing/Fullback Darren Moroney
Fullback Mikey Sherlock*(not sure about his status)
Fullback Rory Scholes
Fullback Peter Nelson
Fullback Ricky Andrew
Fullback Shane Layden
Fullback Darragh Leader
Fullback Darren Sweetnam

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RuPi

Graham Curtis, younger brother of Angus, played for Malone at the weekend, not sure if he is sub academy or full academy with Ulster.

irishfan9

RuPi wrote: »

Graham Curtis, younger brother of Angus, played for Malone at the weekend, not sure if he is sub academy or full academy with Ulster.

probably similar to his brother, do you know how he got on?

case885

MDunne14 wrote:

Oh sorry forgot heâ€™s the only non Irish player in the ail Ã°Å¸â‚¬Â£ get over yourself , he came off the bench

Calm yourself I've no problem with knox, it's irishfan9 who said he'd be taking the place of a young Irish player. Did I touch a nerve?

irishfan9

case885 wrote: »

Calm yourself I've no problem with knox, it's irishfan9 who said he'd be taking the place of a young Irish player. Did I touch a nerve?

He is taking the place of a young irish player in the munster academy. He has gotten a contract that could otherwise have went to a munster developed tighthead.

The Lost Sheep

irishfan9 wrote: »

He is taking the place of a young irish player in the munster academy. He has gotten a contract that could otherwise have went to a munster developed tighthead.

Considering none were added this season he isnt. I know you cant see beyond that but if there was a player to be added they would have

irishfan9

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Considering none were added this season he isnt. I know you cant see beyond that but if there was a player to be added they would have

there a limited number of contracts for the munster academy? Correct?

If one of those contracts are taken by one of these south africans, then it follows logically that there is one less contract for a munster player to take.

The Lost Sheep

irishfan9 wrote: »

there a limited contract for the munster academy? Correct?

If one of those contracts are taken by one of these south africans, then it follows logically that there is one less contract for a munster player to take.

They sign players by position as well if there is no player ready for an academy spot they dont sign anyone. You have this bee in your bonnet "about dem foreigners" and its ridiculous.

irishfan9

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

They sign players by position as well if there is no player ready for an academy spot they dont sign anyone. You have this bee in your bonnet "about dem foreigners" and its ridiculous.

So there are a limited number of academy contracts?

the academy is meant to be about developing young irish players, not importing south africans and developing them.

irishfan9

Thought Jack Dunne and Harry Byrne looked like certain future academy players last weekend, with Daly and Duggan both showing encouraging signs also. Somewhat disappointed in Silvester and Sullivan, who both need to be better.

irishfan9

Surprised to see Eoghan Clarke, Charlie Ryan, Ronan Foley and Patrick Patterson given such an early opportunity to impress at under-20 level.

Clarke/Foley/Patterson have a chance at getting into Leinster academy if they have strong under-20 campaigns IMO.

Glass Prison 1214

Is Charlie Ryan anything to James Ryan?

irishfan9

Glass Prison 1214 wrote: »

Is Charlie Ryan anything to James Ryan?

no relation afaik.

irishfan9

Max Kearney, Oisin Dowling, JJ O'Dea, Jack Kelly all in training against Ireland today

Tarf1234

irishfan9 wrote: »

Max Kearney, Oisin Dowling, JJ O'Dea, Jack Kelly all in training against Ireland today

Somewhat oddly not a great sign for Max

irishfan9

Tarf1234 wrote: »

Somewhat oddly not a great sign for Max

nope.. should give hooker a shot

Tarf1234

irishfan9 wrote: »

nope.. should give hooker a shot

Lot's of player around that could be said about but none of they seem to want to do it. Don't understand why.

irishfan9

Tarf1234 wrote: »

Lot's of player around that could be said about but none of they seem to want to do it. Don't understand why.

true.. bizarre enough..

both ireland u20s tonight are converted props.. but i guess moving from backrow to hooker is a bigger deal to lads.. for whatever reason

stephen_n

irishfan9 wrote: »

true.. bizarre enough..

both ireland u20s tonight are converted props.. but i guess moving from backrow to hooker is a bigger deal to lads.. for whatever reason

You ever play front row?

slingerz

irishfan9 wrote: »

So there are a limited number of academy contracts?

the academy is meant to be about developing young irish players, not importing south africans and developing them.

they dont give everyone an academy contract. similarly, if there were no players of a sufficent calibre they would not just take in players for the sake of filling some academy quota that you have in your head.

There are a limited number of contracts in every aspect, from full professional down to the coaching staff.

Tarf1234

stephen_n wrote: »

You ever play front row?

If the dream is to play pro and to the highest level available you'd assume that would take precedence.

Squidgy Black

Backrow to hooker is a relatively big change to make, and doesn't always work out. Sometimes players just aren't willing to take the chance on it. Taking apart the extra bulk they'll have to put on to be a front rower, you've then the set piece work like throwing and hooking and scrummaging as part of the front row to learn.

baas baa

Recent examples of players converting from back row to other positions won’t provide much encouragement.

irishfan9

stephen_n wrote: »

You ever play front row?

yes

irishfan9

slingerz wrote: »

they dont give everyone an academy contract. similarly, if there were no players of a sufficent calibre they would not just take in players for the sake of filling some academy quota that you have in your head.

There are a limited number of contracts in every aspect, from full professional down to the coaching staff.

yeah i know how it works

Bazzo

baas baa wrote: »

Recent examples of players converting from back row to other positions won’t provide much encouragement.

Who do you mean?

Dave Heffernan successfully converted from openside to hooker in his late teens/early twenties

baas baa

Bazzo wrote: »

Who do you mean?

Dave Heffernan successfully converted from openside to hooker in his late teens/early twenties

Jordan Coughlan
Harrison Brewer

MDunne14

baas baa wrote: »

Jordan Coughlan
Harrison Brewer

Jack dinneen

D14Rugby

baas baa wrote: »

Jordan Coughlan
Harrison Brewer

They were both back rowers to centres

irishfan9

baas baa wrote: »

Jordan Coughlan
Harrison Brewer

moved from the backrow to centre.. moving from the backrow to hooker an easier transition.

irishfan9

Thought eoghan clarke was pretty good at hooker, could see him pushing for a Leinster academy place, given need at the position.