irishfan9 wrote: » I assume Connacht will take a long look at the sub academy players released by Leinster - Dunne, Duggan, Roche etc.
ArmchairQB wrote: » They might but assume all in College as well and where will they play club wise in Connacht. The clubs are going down the leagues in Connacht so the system needs to change as academy players need top level club rugby to improve themselves and keep developing. Attitude with some of the players released may be the real problem especially not hitting targets etc some lads just dont get on in the academy sysytem to much scrutiny for them or personality conflicts anyway I hope they all go well and get what their looking for they may be happy to be out of the system
irishfan9 wrote: » well if they don't get on in the academy system they are hardly going to get on in the pro system.. also not the first time personality may have cost a player an academy place. Not too hard to guess Leinster academy class for next season IMO.
Dog Botherer wrote: » Some very good players have come through the AIL to the pro game after not making it into an academy. Niyi Adeoluken and Barry Daly immediately spring to mind.
irishfan9 wrote: » And? I'm sure both would have succeeded if in an academy aswell.. if players can't handle demands of academy they will struggle to handle demands of pro setup.
Dog Botherer wrote: » The point is they didn't make the academy. Irish academies are very good at skimming the cream of the talent off the top, but they still miss the odd drop or two. Good players sometimes fall through the cracks, the academies are not the final arbiters of whether someone is good enough to go pro.
Squidgy Black wrote: » Barry Daly was in the sub academy and wasn't awarded a place. So he went off and played AIL and showed what he could do there. Same with Niyi he was part of the development squads but Leinster didn't deem him good enough so he went off and played with Trinity. It's not a case of whether they would have succeeded if part of the academy, but rather that they were turned down by the academy and used the AIL to showcase that they could succeed regardless.
irishbucsfan wrote: » Ah come on that's not really what his point was supposed to be at all... Somehow someone saying "guys who don't have the personality to succeed in an academy likely won't make it in pro rugby" has been interpreted as "guys who don't make the academy won't succeed in pro rugby". It's not the same thing.
nice_guy80 wrote: » better for lads to actually be playing AIL rugby you learn by playing the game
The Lost Sheep wrote: » They may. But obviously will focus on those in Connacht and from Connacht but are in boarding schools elsewhere
irishfan9 wrote: » Connacht AcademyYear 3 Conan O'Donnell(Prop/Buccaneers) Conor Kyne(Prop/Galwegians)Year 2 Conor Kenny(Prop/Buccaneers) Peter Claffey(Lock/Buccaneers) Cillian Gallagher(Lock/Corinthians) Stephen Kerins(Scrumhalf/Corinthians) Adam Leavy(Back three/Lansdowne) Matthew Byrne(Back three/Terenure)Year 1 Matthew Burke(Prop/Corinthians) Paul Boyle(Backrow/Buccaneers) Sean Masterson(Backrow/Corinthians) Harley Fox(Backrow/?) Ryan Feehily(Scrumhalf/Sligo) Luke Carty(Outhalf/Buccaneers) Kieran Joyce(Centre/Corinthians) Jordan Conroy(Back three/Buccaneers) Colm de Buitléar(Back three/An Ghaeltacht/Corinthians)Connacht Sub Academy Ryan Lomas(Prop/Buccaneers) Brian Diffley(Prop/Buccaneers) Kuba Woitijowicz(Prop/Sligo) Liam Winnett(Prop/Buccanners) Callum Torpey(Hooker/Exile) Dylan Tierney(Hooker/Corinthians) Niall Murray(2nd Row/Buccaneers) Iarlaith Morrin Laheen(2nd Row/Galwegians) Darragh Murray(2nd Row/Buccaneers) Neal Moylett(Backrow/Ballina) Christian Nielson(Backrow/Sligo) Oisin McCormack(Backrow/Ballinasloe) Cian Huxford(Backrow/Corinthians) Andrew Murphy(Backrow/Blackrock) Richie Fahy(Scrumhalf/Blackrock) Colm Reilly(Scrumhalf/Ballinasloe) Ryan Feehily(Scrumhalf/Sligo) Rory Gaffney(Scrumhalf/Galwegians) Morgan Codyre(Outhalf/Galwegians) Diarmuid Codyre(OuthalfGalwegians) Dylan Prendergast(Outhalf/Westport) Cian Treacy(Outhalf/Ballinasloe) Shane Jennings(Outside Back/Ballinasloe) Saul O'Carroll(Outside Back/Buccaneers) Mark Balaski(Outside Back/Castlebar) Corey Reid(Outside Back/Buccaneers) Conor O'Shaughnessy(Outside Back/Galwegians) Hugh Lane(Outside Back/Galwegians) Michael O'Reilly(Outside Back/Corinthians)
irishfan9 wrote: » not sure theres a need to point that out.. connacht rely on leinster for academy players so naturally players not wanted by leinster will be evaluated by connacht
irishfan9 wrote: » Interesting that Max Kearney gets a run out for Leinster A this weekend, with Ronan Foley on the bench. Foley has had a strong season to date. Silvester also on the bench which isn't too surprising given players away with 7's. Kelleher and Aungier ahead of older academy players in McNulty and Heffernan not surprising either.
MDunne14 wrote: » Surprised both haven’t been released early especially mcnulty
Stainalert wrote: » Disappointing selection for any other flankers. Kearney hasn't played any senior rugby at all. I think Leinster A is a misnomer
Tarf1234 wrote: » Trinity hasn't really worked for Max. Due to the general weakness of their pack this year they've picked a bigger backrow. Ironically if Max had stayed in Tarf he prob would have a good few games in AIL now.
irishfan9 wrote: » doesnt seem to have prevented him with ireland u20 and leinster academy..
Tarf1234 wrote: » Nor should it in my view. Quality player and his body of work over the last number of years should not be wiped because Trinity need more bulk this year.
irishfan9 wrote: » yep.. dunno if he will make leinster academy but has a chance..
Tarf1234 wrote: » I'd love to see him make it personally. Think he offers something really different too what is in there or around.
irishfan9 wrote: » what flankers exactly? Dunne been releases by sub academy. Connors with 7's then they almost always look at u20's in sub academy over club players..
Ayewserious wrote: » Who else got released by the sub academy?
irishfan9 wrote: » dont know.. posters have said dunne, roche, duggan and others have.. safe to say Foley, Kearney, Silvester have not.
