The development will include on-site provision for the storage, maintenance and parking of 125 buses; ancillary surface staff car parking (including electrical charging bays); ancillary offices and staff facilities (including toilets and canteen); bus workshop; external fuel storage tank, refuel area and bus wash; landscaping and boundary treatments.
AlekSmart wrote: » One additional pointer to a somewhat different focus on the part of the new arrival is their recognition of alternative propulsion technologies ...http://www.sdublincoco.ie/index.aspx?pageid=6431®ref=SD17A/0428&r=&l=ballymount%20Road&prop=&name=Go%20Ahead
godtabh wrote: » Thats a requirement of SDCoCo Development Plan
AlekSmart wrote: » Indeed,although I'm not sure of those requirements relating to existing structures ? The application may indeed relate to a desire to "appear all eco",however the Go-Ahead group do appear also to have bought into the Hybrid/Electric Bus concept with significant gusto. I would also be unsurprised,were Go-Ahead Dublin to present the NTA with a proposal to operate at least one of it's newly accquired BMO routes with either Hybrid,or Fully Electric vehicles from it's own stock. With Ireland currently in a bit of a pickle in relation to a lack of action on reducing it's greenhouse gas emissions,such a proposal would,I suggest,be very well regarded by both the NTA,and whatever Minister would be around for the Photo-Shoot.
godtabh wrote: » Its very vague but I'd staff its staff first off all
AlekSmart wrote: » http://www.sdublincoco.ie/index.aspx?pageid=144®ref=SD17A/0428 Excellent Choice,the DHL compound in Ballymount,change of use and well suited to a rapid conversion.
devnull wrote: » Remember that there is going to be a recast of the timetables for when Go-Ahead start them and also there is to be an overall increase of services on said routes by approx 30%. Therefore realistically what the timetables and duties are now is most likely going to be very different to what they will be late 2018 and early 2019 - they also may use outstations as well.
bebeman wrote: » Excellent Choice??? are you being sarcastic? Think for a moment, duty start and finish times and location. 45a, 59,63,75 Start in depot 6am finish in dun laoghaire 1500, Start in dun laoghaire 1200 finish in depot 2100 Start in dun laoghaire 1500 finish in depot 12 184,185 Start in depot 6am finish in bray 1500, Start in bray 1200 finish in depot 2100 Start in bray 1500 finish in depot 12 So make own way in car to depot to start work on early duty 6am, pull bus out of depot and finish days work and park bus up at train station. Now must make way back to depot to collect car. Arrive in depot park car and make way to bus parked up at train station to start work at 1500. How long 90 to 120 minutes each way? Depending on traffic. Twice as long to make own way to and from depot to work relief duty. Spare drivers who i have talked to about this as location of Go Ahead bus depot have all had one reaction, "Fxxx that, make my way to and from bray train station on my own time, not getting paid." They will struggle to attract and retain drivers with this location for the above reason.
bebeman wrote: » Cant see the new duties starting and finishing in the depot, drivers will still have to make way to bray and dun laoghaire on there own time adding a potential 90-120 minutes unpaid time to work day.
Stephen15 wrote: » From Bray with the M50 it would take a similar time to get from Bray to Ballymount as it would to get between Bray and Donnybrook on the N11. I do think that GAD should buy Bray Depot as most of the Bray based routes are being transferred to GAD. .
devnull wrote: » may be able to work around it by changing how breaks occur and where they are taken and where drivers change for instance. .
devnull wrote: » At the end of the day nobody knows how Go-Ahead are going to structure their duties and rotas, it could be very different to the way that Dublin Bus do it and they may be able to work around it by changing how breaks occur and where they are taken and where drivers change for instance. Just because Dublin Bus does things one way, doesn't mean that a new operator will do things exactly the same.
Just a little over two weeks into the start of its bus operations here, transport operator Go-Ahead Singapore has lost a number of its bus captains, and is engaging drivers on a short-term-contract basis from SBS Transit and SMRT Buses to cope.
Noting that Singaporeans shun bus captain positions due to the “unearthly hours” and a lack of respect for the profession, Mr Ang said better pay and working conditions like better rest areas at bus interchanges, are needed. In response, Transport Minister Lui Tuck Yew said the bus contracting model is expected to bring some improvements to the profession. Bus operators will have to “consider enhancing their human resource practices and making offers that are attractive enough to potential employees”. LTA will give positive consideration to bids that provide a strong plan for local recruitment and retention, he added. LTA has also been building depots and interchanges with better facilities and rest areas to improve staff welfare and will “as much as possible” try to retrofit existing interchanges and depots, he noted.
Mr Roger Vahnberg, senior vice-president at Vasttrafik, Sweden’s agency for public transport services, viewed the tendering process as a partnership. In Sweden, Vasttrafik and the operator would come together to form a management team, and plan the goals for the contract together, he said.
Mr Smith (Tower Transit CEO) noted that governments will have to make tough decisions weighing both price and quality when awarding contracts.“In all the time I’ve been in my business, I’ve never seen a high-quality, low-price bid except when the bidder made a mistake,” he said.“If you take the lowest bidder, I promise you, you’ll probably fight from day one until the final day of the contract because the person has probably made a mistake, is losing money, and has to extract themselves, and they’ll do that by challenging every decision.”
Stephen15 wrote: » Bus Captains
devnull wrote: » They were called 'pilots' when First launched the ill thought out FTR in the UK!
bebeman wrote: » 84 is the main route based in bray depot, thats staying with DB. 184 and 185 might only be 2 buses based out there rest in donnybrook
Stephen15 wrote: » But the 84 could be moved to Donnybrook and removed from Bray Station (which is only there to serve driver changes) and the 45a could be moved to Bray Depot.
bebeman wrote: » So you want the 84 to operate from Donnybrook? About 18km from Donnybrook to Bray and another 20km to Newcastle, so running 38km empty first and last bus to and from Newcastle? Not for driver changes, not all DART go to Greystones, people get of Dart and hope on 84 to go further south Bray depot is not owned by DB.
Stephen15 wrote: » Who owns Bray Depot then do DB only rent it? It probably would have made more sense if the 84/A was included in the tendering process and then they could have removed another bus. The 184 also goes to Greystones and are the 84s timed to meet the DART at Bray?
Stephen15 wrote: » I have I find the 84 a pretty crap route I live near Deansgrange and used the 84 once to go to Greystones it took over an hour and that was mainly due to the diversion to serve Bray DART station and Cherrywood aswell as about 10 mins in Bray awaiting a new driver, on the way back it's even more of a joke as it has to go down Bray Main St. twice due the one way system on Quinsborough and Florence Rd. I have since realised it's quicker to get the 46a or 75 to DL and get a DART to Greystones.
bebeman wrote: » 84 is used by school kids and adults going out for a few drinks. Its not a main route
Stephen15 wrote: » So that's a good excuse for a shoddy service. Sure public transport is only for people who can't afford cars anyway I suppose.
bebeman wrote: » Do posters here just jump at any opportunity to get a dig in on DB? Do you posters even know what you are posting about or just like to rant about DB? Do posters here use any of DB services that go in and out of Bray, i dont mean getting on a 145 at Foxrock, but actually being on a DB bus as it goes through Bray?
