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Teenager and child shot in Dublin halting site

Captain Obvious

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2017/1211/926554-shooting/

A teenager and a young child have been injured in a shooting at a halting site in west Dublin.

Not the first time a child has been injured in a shooting in Dublin. It's hard to imagine the kind of person that would do this though.

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Hoboo

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Not a fair comment. If the shooter turns out to have a bajillion previous convictions for violent crime, then it's the judiciary's fault for not locking him up permanently and the government's fault for not legislating to that effect.

Locking 'her' up.

SEPT 23 1989

Just remember when you look at you payslip this is what you pay for

hatrickpatrick

splinter65 wrote: »

Right on cue. Society is to blame. Not the person who pointed the gun in the direction of 2 children and pulled the trigger.

Not a fair comment. If the shooter turns out to have a bajillion previous convictions for violent crime, then it's the judiciary's fault for not locking him up permanently and the government's fault for not legislating to that effect.

AlekSmart

whisky_galore wrote: »

http://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/house-family-involved-mulhuddart-shooting-14038462

It is interesting to note the wording in that report...

A source said: "The house belonged to one of the families alleged to be involved in the feud. It seems that the feud has continued."

If this is accurate,then thankfully some degree of insurance may be in place to pay for the inevitable rebuilding of the structure.

However,if the premises is in fact a Local Authority dwelling,then the (not inconsiderable ) cost will have to come from some part of the Authorities,already stretched,budget.

Sadly,the destruction,by fire, of housing stock appars to be a common occurence across many similar locations,which is particularly difficult to both understand or excuse,given the very real homelessness crisis impacting on other,non-traveller,elements of society.

If somebody can offer an explanation as to why this practice,is so widespread amongst this ethnic group then it then it may clarify at least some of the issue ?

whisky_galore

Red_Wake wrote: »

Nothing in the news about the burnt out house.

http://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/house-family-involved-mulhuddart-shooting-14038462

Red_Wake

Nothing in the news about the burnt out house.

septictank

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Wonder is this pillar of society the fruit of his loins:

http://www.dublinpeople.com/news/northsidewest/articles/2016/05/25/4120396-teenager-stabbed-homeless-man-in-the-chest-in-temple-bar/

It would appear he's not the only young gentleman from those parts that's handy with a knife, coincidence, hmmmm.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/young-mans-spleen-removed-in-emergency-surgery-following-vicious-stabbing-attack-in-temple-bar-court-hears-31349963.html

flutered

Nekarsulm wrote: »

That's just the Children's Allowance.
Add in FIS and it's another 10k at least.
Plus the dole money.
Heading towards 50k a year.

A regular family would need to be earning 80k a year before tax to equal it.

no wonder they will not or want not to change

whisky_galore

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

In before "Something something nontravellers light fires as well"

Housewarming...

Foxhound38

January wrote: »

They've set one of the houses on fire

How dare you - the proper term is "culturally enriching indoor bonfire", boss

FFS - shooting a baby and setting their house on fire all in the one week? They're busy if nothing else!

Roger Hassenforder

In before "Something something nontravellers light fires as well"

January

Nothing much to see now.

[Deleted User]

irishproduce wrote: »

As a poster above said, utterly pointless people

Rascist :pac:

irishproduce

As a poster above said, utterly pointless people

Geuze

J.pilkington wrote: »

I’m sure posters like ‘end of the road’ will say this is not relevant, but is very relevant. We have gone down the road of wrapping these people up in cotton wool, they are untouchable in so many ways and because of these attitudes (they are special, leave then alone, culture, bla bla) and the actions of the travellers themselves they are completely segregated from modern society and the actions of their protectors are only further escalating this. Net impact is they don’t contribute to society, in fact the very opposite and they have no desire to and we are setting up their kids for failure and actions like we are seeing here (family feuds with no limits) are just the norm for them.

I agree.

When will the media state the truth?

We don't do anybody any favours by ignoring the truth.

Hoboo

Bloody 'el

January

I'll try get more pics on my way back

[Deleted User]

And they’ll all get lovely new houses cos it’s a danger to live there

January

Red_Wake wrote: »

Is any news outlet carrying the story?

Nothing on any of the usual spots.

Its literally just happened.

January

Fun times

[Deleted User]

FFS

Red_Wake

January wrote: »

They've set one of the houses on fire

Is any news outlet carrying the story?

Nothing on any of the usual spots.

PeterParker957

January wrote: »

They've set one of the houses on fire

Damn that was my second guess.

Utterly pointless people, seriously.

January

They've set one of the houses on fire

PeterParker957

January wrote: »

Garda left this morning and guess what's just happened...

Everyone got together over tea and cake ?

/sarcasm

January

Garda left this morning and guess what's just happened...

January

The 23 year old is in court this morning. Daughter of Dan ó Donovan.

Captain Obvious

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Possession of a firearm, and "making a threat to kill".
Attempted murder, grevious bodily harm x 3 would seem more like it, if they can prove he fired the gun.
Yesterday media sources seemed fairly certain that the woman arrested was the actual shooter

And in the bail conditions " inform the Gardai if you plan to leave the country".

They are probably just holding charges. The DPP would decide on the more serious stuff.

dinorebel

January wrote: »

You don't get fis if you're on social welfare you have to be working at least 19.5 hours a week.

Can definitely rule that out then.

January

Nekarsulm wrote: »

That's just the Children's Allowance.
Add in FIS and it's another 10k at least.
Plus the dole money.
Heading towards 50k a year.

A regular family would need to be earning 80k a year before tax to equal it.

You don't get fis if you're on social welfare you have to be working at least 19.5 hours a week.