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Do you think ISIS/Al Queda terror will end eventually?

dd972

Optimistically I think it will, look back over past decades and all these types of movements and campaigns, the 'RA included, sort of mutate, evolve and eventually fizzle out, possibly replaced by something else better or worse or halt altogether.

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seamus

Extremist ideologies will always exist, it's part of the human condition.

Even if we attain the position where religions have no influence over public policy, and the entire planet is united under a single governing structure, you will have extremist groups who want to break away and be in charge of their own little corner of the planet, ruling with their own set of arbitrary codes. And they'll use violence to try and achieve it.

Even reading my post, some of you will become irrationally angry about the concept that we'd have a one-world government. This tribal instinct will never leave us, most of us will just learn to recognise its irrationality.

Oldtree

No. Discontent will always find a new way.

KungPao

baylah17 wrote: »

They will go and be replaced by another group or groups, look at the lat 30 years or so;
PLO
Black September
PFLP
Abu Nidal
Action Direct
Red Brigades
Red Army Faction
PIRA
Bader-Meinhoff

They had their time and they were overtaken by new terrorist groups.

Not to mention:
New Provo Front
Liberte de Quebec
Asian Dawn...

PeterParker957

KungPao wrote: »

Not to mention:
New Provo Front
Liberte de Quebec
Asian Dawn...

No, DAWN dear - DAWN!!!!

PeterParker957

KungPao wrote: »

Not to mention:
New Provo Front
Liberte de Quebec
Asian Dawn...

You missed the People's Front of Judea too.

branie2

Hopefully they will.

[Deleted User]

No. These Terrorist groups are far too connected to their religion and Islam is based on a warrior culture system. There is no suggestion of forgiveness in any dialogue, which gives them the ability to rehash every slight they've ever received and produce it to justify their cause. Instead, ISIS/Al Queda will morph into another group with similar aims, and it won't stop until the overall culture/religion changes, or they win becoming the dominant culture/religion/society in the world.

darkdubh

Has a certain poster asked for this thread to be shut down yet? :rolleyes:

PeterParker957

darkdubh wrote: »

Has a certain poster asked for this thread to be shut down yet? :rolleyes:

Not as yet no!

Chrongen

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Go on I'll bite - then who brought down the Towers ? Who has been waging jihad across Europe for a decade or more ?

You just need to watch a BBC documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD1BRE-DBsA

Ipso

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Go on I'll bite - then who brought down the Towers ? Who has been waging jihad across Europe for a decade or more ?

Wake up sheeple! You just don't get it, you're not one of the special ones who can see through the MSM lies and questioning what you are being told (just don't question the dullards on the youtube videos or on infowars).

As far as ISIS goes, I think they will burn themselves out. Scummy groups have always been around but ISIS seem to be a bit too cruel and incoherent to be able to remain a functioning organization for long. They will probably turn on each other after a while.

Ipso

Chrongen wrote: »

Laugh all you want. They don't exist.

Sorry, you're just attention seeking.

Chrongen

Ipso wrote: »

Sorry, you're just attention seeking.

Have you ever seen or heard anybody who has claimed to be a member of ISIS or IS or ISIL or Al Qaeda?

I haven't.

EVER.

Ipso

Hmm. Have you a pamphlet I can subscribe to?

SnakePlissken

Chrongen wrote: »

Ipso wrote: »

Sorry, you're just attention seeking.

Have you ever seen or heard anybody who has claimed to be a member of ISIS or IS or ISIL or Al Qaeda?

I haven't.

EVER.

I've never met an Argentinian, doesn't mean the country doesn't bloody exist.

Autochange

Did ISIS exist before the Us ruined Iraq?
The west and particularly the Us has brought some of this on themselves.

Ipso

The people that formed it did. If we are to say that intervention in Iraq and Libya helped cause their rise, does that mean the best we can hope for are dictatorships to keep the scumbags under control?

PeterParker957

Chrongen wrote: »

Ipso wrote: »

Sorry, you're just attention seeking.

Have you ever seen or heard anybody who has claimed to be a member of ISIS or IS or ISIL or Al Qaeda?

I haven't.

EVER.

I've also never met anyone who claimed to be in the SAS, the Smurfs or the Harlem Globetrotters but I'm sure they're real. Their work proves it.

Autochange

Ipso wrote: »

The people that formed it did. If we are to say that intervention in Iraq and Libya helped cause their rise, does that mean the best we can hope for are dictatorships to keep the scumbags under control?

Conservative estimates have the iraqi civilian death toll from the Us invasion at over 100000. Thats a lot of pissed of family members left behind.

Stephen15

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

With the amount of Christmas markets that'll be taking place all over Europe in the next month, an attack is inevitable IMO.

Most have been surrounded with concrete barriers now so it will be a lot harder to do a truck attack which seems to be their favoured method as of late.

Ipso

Autochange wrote: »

Conservative estimates have the iraqi civilian death toll from the Us invasion at over 100000. Thats a lot of pissed of family members left behind.

Most of that death toll is down to rival groups/civil war. Of course that fighting was indirectly caused by the US invasion, so are we better of with dictators in power?

Then you have stuff like this happening that is not exactly encouraging.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/inpictures/2017/11/pakistan-police-move-anti-blasphemy-protests-171126075559069.html

Autochange

Ipso wrote: »

Most of that death toll is down to rival groups/civil war. Of course that fighting was indirectly caused by the US invasion, so are we better of with dictators in power?

Then you have stuff like this happening that is not exactly encouraging.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/inpictures/2017/11/pakistan-police-move-anti-blasphemy-protests-171126075559069.html

That depends on whether invading forces are actually really there to free the people.

Chrongen

SnakePlissken wrote: »

I've never met an Argentinian, doesn't mean the country doesn't bloody exist.

Well, I suppose that proves it all then.

I've never seen the tooth fairy. Hence her/his existence can't be sub or unsubstantiated either.

Al Qaeda doesn't exist.

Ipso

Of course the war was one of the most ridiculous foreign policy decisions of recent years; but given what's happened the choices seem to be brutal dictator or civil war.

Ipso

Chrongen wrote: »

Well, I suppose that proves it all then.

I've never seen the tooth fairy. Hence her/his existence can't be sub or unsubstantiated either.

Al Qaeda doesn't exist.

So the suicide bombings and attacks are carried out by whom?

Hande hoche!

Grayson wrote: »

It's probably worth mentioning that terrorist attacks by right wingers in the US since 9/11 have outnumbered islamic attacks. So it might be that something has already replaced it, just no-ones noticed because there's so much focus on islam because of 9/11.

Is that number of attacks rather than death toll? Imagine the latter will have a greater impact on the public imagination.

Mint Sauce

OnDraught wrote: »

More than 300 people died in a mosque attack in Egypt on Friday.

Was gonna mention that one my self. Unfortunately Al Queda and IS are probably killing hundreds often in the Middle East and North Africa, but it seems these people are either not White or Western enough for the mainstream media for it to be reported. It was two days after the above events before I heard it, that goes to show the interest.

PeterParker957

Ipso wrote: »

Chrongen wrote: »

Well, I suppose that proves it all then.

I've never seen the tooth fairy. Hence her/his existence can't be sub or unsubstantiated either.

Al Qaeda doesn't exist.

So the suicide bombings and attacks are carried out by whom?

Asked that hours ago. I'm not expecting a speedy reply.

Autochange

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Asked that hours ago. I'm not expecting a speedy reply.

Disillusioned and mentally weak lone wolves who have had innocent family members or friends killed by Us invading forces?

Chrongen

Ipso wrote: »

So the suicide bombings and attacks are carried out by whom?

Have you ever once witnessed anybody claiming to be a member or these groups?

I haven't.

I've seen people claim membership of the IRA or ETA or Black September or The Tamil Tigers or Shining Path or......(fill in the nomenclature) but I have never once experienced anyone claiming to be a member of Al Qaeda or the Islamic State. IS in Libya/Lebanon...whatever ISIL stands for.

I haven't, I really have not.