JohnMc1 wrote: » The Left love to deflect.
Billy86 wrote: » You've said it so often that it might as well be your sig line at this point: So either you're knowingly hanging around with extremists, or you're telling porkies.
gozunda wrote: » As a recent arrival on boards you aint half set yourself up as the authority on Islam on this thread. Pity you can't get all your "facts" correct though...
Billy86 wrote: » :pac:"The "Far-Right" aren't the ones throwing acid in Women's faces and have now taken to plowing vehicles into high pedestrian areas."
dreamliner wrote: » The boards charter says those with less than a certain amount of posts have less of an opinion does it? Why the hell are you even interested in my history? I have been a member for nearly 3 years, what's it to you? And tell me what I've said that is factually incorrect and we'll see what the story is.
Help!!!! wrote: » Wow I'm honored that you would go through my history of posts to try to prove your point. So let me explain There are no moderate Muslims. There are ex Muslims, Muslims or Extremists ex Muslims self explanatory Muslims if you find me a practising Muslim who does not believe in some form of Sharia I will gladly be proved wrong Extremists have extreme views on Sharia, can be terrorists So no I am not hanging around with extremists, my friends have through their faith different views to myself but not extreme
Help!!!! wrote: » Well unfortunately most Muslims want some form of Sharia Law. How many radical Muslims are there is the world?? Radicals rather than terrorists? More than half world wide
Have you been lately?? Sharia patrols around some mosques, Somalian ghettos, acid attacks
Sharia gets set up. Sooner or later police no longer go to these areas. Radicalisation of youth begins....We know what happens after that
Help!!!! wrote: » I would have no problem with ex Muslims coming to our country as they are trying to escape from MB, Sharia law etc
Help!!!! wrote: » Islamic sheikh Shaikh Mohammad Tawhidi has claimed the real reason the team refused the silence is because under Sharia Law, it is not a sin for a Muslim to kill a non-believer.
There are many more examples of them wanting to change the country they move to, like wanting to stop people having dogs as pets, wanting pig farmers to stop rearing pigs, wanting to introduce Sharia Law, wanting to have their own state within the country.
Help!!!! wrote: » Well no I have actually sat down with a number of Muslims & spoke about Sharia/Gays/Women & none convinced me that they were moderate's & these guys had lived in the UK for a long time.
Help!!!! wrote: » Go walk around East London near the mosques & you will see the Sharia Law patrols stopping non Muslims & telling them its a Muslim area
Help!!!! wrote: » ScumLord wrote: » I haven't vilified any non muslims. Muslims make up 4.5% of the UK population according to wiki, 20% of those people want to bring in sharia law. That's less than 2% of the population. How exactly are they going to bring in sharia law? It's not worth worrying about, there's no legal path for Sharia law in the UK, in Ireland and throughout Europe. It's not ever going to happen so why would I worry about it? It's hysterics and a distraction to spend any time debating it. I'm sure people said the same about the Nazi's, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire etc.
ScumLord wrote: » I haven't vilified any non muslims. Muslims make up 4.5% of the UK population according to wiki, 20% of those people want to bring in sharia law. That's less than 2% of the population. How exactly are they going to bring in sharia law? It's not worth worrying about, there's no legal path for Sharia law in the UK, in Ireland and throughout Europe. It's not ever going to happen so why would I worry about it? It's hysterics and a distraction to spend any time debating it.
JohnMc1 wrote: » So who's throwing acid in Women's faces and plowing vehicles into pedestrians in London, France,Germany,Sweden? Your precious Muslims.
JohnMc1 wrote: » LOL. The "Far-Right" aren't the ones throwing acid in Women's faces and have now taken to plowing vehicles into high pedestrian areas.
A 22-year-old man with suspected neo-Nazi links has confessed to driving his Volvo into an Iraqi demonstration outside the Migration Agency in Malmö. Police are investigating it as hate crime. The man has admitted driving his car into a demonstration of around 20-30 Iraqi nationals protesting Sweden's new and stricter asylum rules outside the Migration Agency in Malmö on two occasions.
CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. -- Charlottesville police have added charges against the man authorities say drove his car into a group of counter-protesters at a white nationalist rally. Police said Friday that they had charged James Alex Fields Jr. with five additional felony charges -- two counts of malicious wounding and three counts of aggravated malicious wounding. Fields, 20, is accused of ramming his car into a crowd of counter-protesters Saturday, killing 32-year-old Heather Heyer and wounding dozens more. He has already been charged with second-degree murder and other charges.
The British van driver suspected of ramming Muslim worshippers near a London mosque appeared in court on Friday charged with "terrorism-related murder and attempted murder". Darren Osborne, 47, appeared at Westminster Magistrates Court in central London, speaking to confirm his name, age and that he had no fixed address. The Crown Prosecution Service said it would argue that Osborne, "motivated by extreme political views and a personal hatred of Muslims, acted to kill, maim, injure and terrify as many people as possible" during this week's attack.
A spate of acid attacks has left some Muslim residents of east London afraid to leave their homes. Fears have been heightened after 21-year-old aspiring model Resham Khan and her cousin Jameel Muhktar, 37, suffered horrific injuries when an attacker squirted acid through their car window in Newham, east London, on 21 June. Police initially said they had no evidence the attack was racially or religiously motivated. They reclassified it as a hate crime, however, after Mr Muhktar insisted Islamophobia was involved, and after posts expressing sympathy for the far-right were allegedly found on the Facebook page of John Tomlin, 24, who is being sought for questioning in relation to the incident. As news of the attack spread, social media users began to report other acid attacks, with some speculating that Muslims or people of Asian appearance were being targeted. When Muslims are victims of an attack, we refuse to call it terrorism The incidents included a man of Asian origin having a noxious substance squirted at him while driving in Commercial Road, Tower Hamlets, on Thursday, with the attackers stealing his car as soon as he got out to seek help. There were also social media reports of two attacks in East Ham on Friday – one involving a woman being partially burned on her doorstep by someone pretending to be a delivery man, and the other of a woman being targeted by moped-driving acid attackers in the Plashet Grove area.
Help!!!! wrote: » Random questions that a lot of Irish people wanted answers to, so not irrelevant
DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: » Are moves being made to hand over the sisters to the Eqyptian authorities? These are wanted women.
Billy86 wrote: » I'll just quote myself again for you so since you're predictably appearing too much of a coward to argue your case or admit how wrong you were (again). October 2015.https://www.thelocal.se/20170614/man-with-alleged-nazi-links-admits-driving-his-car-into-refugee-demonstration-in-malmo-swedenhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/james-alex-fields-new-charges-charlottesville-car-attack/http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/london-mosque-attack-driver-charged-terrorism-170623112356082.htmlhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/east-london-acid-attacks-muslim-resham-khan-jameel-muhktar-south-asian-residents-race-hate-crimes-a7821701.htmlhttps://books.google.ie/books?id=3iwlDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA231&lpg=PA231&dq=far+right+acid+attack+-mukhtar&source=bl&ots=ISCFfGn00K&sig=XkDtApzNb13Epg_bXU0tiirJmkQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjx6ZutlNrXAhVfOMAKHZIIAC44ChDoAQhbMAg#v=onepage&q&f=false
gozunda wrote: » Wahey - a bit defensive as well! If you set out 'facts - do at least expect to be challenged on them ... 42 posts in three years and then you go viral - wow! It's nothing to do with having an 'opinion' - as Ive said you've set yourself up as a bit of an authority on this thread. I have already posted twice regarding your 'facts' on sharia law and not a peep out of you ...
JohnMc1 wrote: » So a few random incidents erases monthly attacks from Muslims? LOL. And lol at CBSNews, Aljazeera and Google as credible.
Billy86 wrote: » No worries and you're welcome, the search function only takes about 30 seconds and is a great way of calling people out on bullsh**. Like all those times you've eagerly linked Sharia with extremism. Quite literally the one above is you saying a poll stating over half of Muslims would want Sharia Law is proof that over half of Muslims are radicals. Now you're claiming every single Muslim practices Sharia Law until proven otherwise (by the way, I've two exes who didn't practice it nor did their families), so yea you are claiming a) you have Muslim friends, b) every Muslim you have ever known practices Sharia, and c) Sharia = radical Islam. So yes, as I said you're either knowingly hanging out with Muslim extremists and radicals or you're telling porkies. Anyway, here's some more of your greatest hits:https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105287845&postcount=418https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=105292800
PeterParker957 wrote: » If "an aspect of Sharia Law is to obey the laws of the land" then explain why Sharia courts are present in the UK dealing with financial and matrimonial matters, when there already is British law governing these issues?
Billy86 wrote: » More than a few there John, and are all from the last 6 months bar one and only took me a few minutes to dig up - there'd be plenty more that went hugely under-reported like the Swedish Neo Nazi ploughing into 30 refugees. The fact is, sensationalist tabloids and the likes prey on the likes of you and as you've shown if it's a white, European or American non-Muslim committing terrorist acts you really, really don't care. Don't worry I won't ask you engage in those links from reputable sources I've given (I know you're struggling to keep up, the last one was not from Google but a published book on modern right wing terrorism). To be honest, going off your posts you don't appear to actually have the capacity to argue your point in any way shape or form. I'll leave you toddle back to your right wing safe spaces and learn all about those scary brown people. Or to keep embarrassing yourself here, whichever makes you happy Champ!
dreamliner wrote: » If defensive is calling out your irrelevant nonsense then so be it.Sharia law is the law of Islam. A Muslim believes it to be God's law and the bedrock of how this life should be lived according to the God who made us. If they don't believe this, then quite simply, they are not Muslim. Believing it is the law of God and believing it should be implemented in the western countries that its adherents live in are 2 separate things in case you have difficulties grasping that. I already told you that an aspect of sharia law is to respect the law of the land in which you live when it comes to issues where there may be contradictions. Now what relevance does a vote in Azerbaijan have to do with this? You were not ignored because I have no answers, you were ignored because your post was so off the track it didn't deserve one.
Sharīʿah, also spelled Sharia, the fundamental religious concept of Islam, namely its law, systematized during the 2nd and 3rd centuries of the Muslim era (8th–9th centuries ce).
Help!!!! wrote: » Its not that anyone doesn't care its that we are not importing hundreds of neo nazis into Ireland If we ever do we will ask your advise
Billy86 wrote: » Don't worry, you'll be grand without it as you're the one making friends and hanging out with Muslim extremists and radicals by your own admission.
gozunda wrote: » Ah the old deflection trick. Very poor. And no it wasn't a "vote in Azerbaijan". It was a survey of many Islamic countries and their views on sharia law. You don't like that There was no mention of implementing it in "western countries" .... Her it is again.http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/ "God who made us???? I think you have your played your hand there tbh. That god hasn't anything to do with me anyway ... The 'facts' you presented were absolute bullcrap btw You were faced into providing a reply. Suck it up. I notice you once again set yourself up as an 'expert' on the matter. I prefer to refer to a less evidently one man "authority' as what a definition of sharia is tbh.https://www.britannica.com/topic/Shariah
smokingman wrote: » Is that Prendervil guy the fella that was jacking off in front of everyone on a plane a few years back?
dreamliner wrote: » http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.org/understanding-islam/legal-rulings/52-understanding-islamic-law.html "Islamic civilization, since the time of Prophet Muhammad (s) until now, is firmly founded on the concept of ‘rule of law.’ For that reason, the law is published and known, and citizens and courts are expected to uphold it. In addition, Muslim citizens must adhere to Islamic law - Shariah." From the Islamic Supreme Council.
Help!!!! wrote: » You still haven't explained how that is true As has been preached to many on here Sharia law is not extreme....just parts of it;)
Help!!!! wrote: » Wow I'm honored that you would go through my history of posts to try to prove your point. So let me explain There are no moderate Muslims. There are ex Muslims, Muslims or Extremists ex Muslims self explanatory Muslims if you find me a practising Muslim who does not believe in some form of Sharia I will gladly be proved wrong Extremists have extreme views on Sharia, can be terrorists So no I am not hanging around with extremists, my friends have through their faith different views to myself but not extreme No worries and you're welcome, the search function only takes about 30 seconds and is a great way of calling people out on bullsh**. Help!!!! wrote: » Well unfortunately most Muslims want some form of Sharia Law. How many radical Muslims are there is the world?? Radicals rather than terrorists? More than half world wide Like all those times you've eagerly linked Sharia with extremism. Quite literally the one above is you saying a poll stating over half of Muslims would want Sharia Law is proof that over half of Muslims are radicals. Now you're claiming every single Muslim practices Sharia Law until proven otherwise (by the way, I've two exes who didn't practice it nor did their families), so yea you are claiming a) you have Muslim friends, b) every Muslim you have ever known practices Sharia, and c) Sharia = radical Islam. So yes, as I said you're either knowingly hanging out with Muslim extremists and radicals or you're telling porkies. Anyway, here's some more of your greatest hits:https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105287845&postcount=418 Have you been lately?? Sharia patrols around some mosques, Somalian ghettos, acid attacks https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=105292800 Sharia gets set up. Sooner or later police no longer go to these areas. Radicalisation of youth begins....We know what happens after that Help!!!! wrote: » I would have no problem with ex Muslims coming to our country as they are trying to escape from MB, Sharia law etc Help!!!! wrote: » Islamic sheikh Shaikh Mohammad Tawhidi has claimed the real reason the team refused the silence is because under Sharia Law, it is not a sin for a Muslim to kill a non-believer. There are many more examples of them wanting to change the country they move to, like wanting to stop people having dogs as pets, wanting pig farmers to stop rearing pigs, wanting to introduce Sharia Law, wanting to have their own state within the country. Help!!!! wrote: » Well no I have actually sat down with a number of Muslims & spoke about Sharia/Gays/Women & none convinced me that they were moderate's & these guys had lived in the UK for a long time. Help!!!! wrote: » Go walk around East London near the mosques & you will see the Sharia Law patrols stopping non Muslims & telling them its a Muslim area Help!!!! wrote: » ScumLord wrote: » I haven't vilified any non muslims. Muslims make up 4.5% of the UK population according to wiki, 20% of those people want to bring in sharia law. That's less than 2% of the population. How exactly are they going to bring in sharia law? It's not worth worrying about, there's no legal path for Sharia law in the UK, in Ireland and throughout Europe. It's not ever going to happen so why would I worry about it? It's hysterics and a distraction to spend any time debating it. I'm sure people said the same about the Nazi's, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire etc.
