Granny15 wrote: » Kidney was/is a Turnip - they had a significant presence on the Munsterfans website at the time - enough said. They labelled him Judy and got to him but I believe at the time he picked Kearney on merit and didn't crack under the pressure from online/media etc. McGeechan - There wasa distinct lack of opposition in his position fuillback at the time - can't remember who was there for the other 3 Unions but I remember it was easy enough for a relatively standard Fullback to march onto that Lions team with the lack of alternatives there at the time.
Padraig121 wrote: » Why?
Padraig121 wrote: » People can call them what they want, I call them friendlies.
prawnsambo wrote: » Yeah. I call them county finals. :rolleyes:
prawnsambo wrote: » You started comparing to RWC matches without specifying at what stage and then with QFs which is completely different. That's a significant shift seeing as pool matches are played against lower tier opposition. So why is it different then? Is there a degree of care beyond which kicking the ball doesn't work or something?
Padraig121 wrote: » Lads, they are friendlies. The results mean nothing at the end of the day. Of course no one wants to lose but tournament matches are what counts.
irishbucsfan wrote: » No matter how many times you say this, you will remain incorrect
connachta wrote: » Once. And it wasn't in RWC vs Wales and Argentina (expensive teams who counter-attack)
Padraig121 wrote: » They are friendlies. Beating teams in friendlies isn't on the same level as beating teams in the world cup. No goalposts moved.
Padraig121 wrote: » Of course they did, I've said so.
Padraig121 wrote: » They are friendlies.
Granny15 wrote: » Cheiks was a renowned depressive when he got here. His teammate David Knox hated it so much he left. He brought that broodish personality with him into the coaching realm and I genuinely believe it was the online bullying and negative atmoshpere in the country at the time which had him like this. Was he tough enough to stand up to it? You beet your life he wasn't being the clown that he is he was trampled all over by the Purple brigade and they got their man through - granted he was playing very well at the time under the high ball (a tactic he learned off our own Michaeels man Sean Murray on the 1988 SCT team). Kidney was/is a Turnip - they had a significant presence on the Munsterfans website at the time - enough said. They labelled him Judy and got to him but I believe at the time he picked Kearney on merit and didn't crack under the pressure from online/media etc. McGeechan - There wasa distinct lack of opposition in his position fuillback at the time - can't remember who was there for the other 3 Unions but I remember it was easy enough for a relatively standard Fullback to march onto that Lions team with the lack of alternatives there at the time.
irishbucsfan wrote: » They're test matches. They're not friendlies. Although it makes some sense, are you confusing the Irish rugby team with the Irish soccer team perhaps?
prawnsambo wrote: » You clearly don't understand international rugby if you continue to refer to non-tournament test matches as 'friendlies'. They are not within an asses roar of friendlies in the soccer sense. Apart from the importance in world rankings, they also feature pretty much first team selections unless against inferior opposition. Which is exactly how we play similar RWC matches. And I see we're now comparing this with RWC QFs. Keep those goalposts moving. :rolleyes: And just to clarify. Are you saying NZ just didn't give a fup and our kicking game beat them because it was a 'friendly'?
Padraig121 wrote: » A great win no doubt but it was a friendly, we can't forget that. A world cup quarter final is far bigger, let's get serious here.
prawnsambo wrote: » Well since at least two of the RWC matches are against inferior opposition, yes. This was against the number one side in the world who haven't been off the top spot for decades and who were on a record breaking run of wins. Who we had never beaten and were in no hurry to end that record.
Padraig121 wrote: » No it's not. The world cup is very different to friendly matches!
Padraig121 wrote: » A friendly match in Chicago more important than a world cup match? Ah now.
prawnsambo wrote: » Ah stop. These are internnational capped test matches. There was a record on the line for NZ and one on the line for us. If anything it was more intesnse than a RWC match since our record has us only getting to quarter finals.
Deleted User wrote: » Really? Wow! What was your forum name at the time?
Padraig121 wrote: » This has gone on too long, I've made my point. I just hope we see more developments on the game plan, we need it in my opinion. Of course I could be wrong and I hope I am but I wasn't wrong last world cup and unfortunately I don't think i will be for the 2019 edition.
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