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Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread VIII - MOD NOTE POST #4781

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Zzippy

DGRulz wrote: »

Was looking forward to Bryne v Nadolo II

So was Nadolo!

Former Former

irishbucsfan wrote: »

They might stick him on the bench against Argentina for that reason.

Maybe best not to stick him on the wing against Fiji, he might get flashbacks

Lol. Maybe he got a note from his mam excusing him.

If the Argies are as bad as they were against England, I'd have no concerns about playing anyone against them.

MJohnston

irishbucsfan wrote: »

If you look at this team in terms of who can have the biggest short-term impact on their fortunes... I'd say the 5

Ruddock can possibly cement his place in the 23 for Argentina/6Ns.
Murphy can possibly oust him.
Porter can possibly make himself a genuine bench option due to his quality around the field
Dillane can make some lost ground up on Ryan.
Conway can make himself a real option at 15 in the not entirely unlikely scenario that RK and JP are missing.

And I suppose a bad performance from Marmion/Carberry could set them back as our seemingly 2nd choice half backs.

I think Carberry is probably safe enough as 2nd choice for the foreseeable, maybe Marmion too.

There's also the flip side of this - eg. another weak McCloskey performance and I think it'll be a long, long time before we see him named in an Irish squad again.

irishbucsfan

Former Former wrote: »

Adam Byrne the only one of the original squad not to see a jersey then? Can't say I'm surprised at that but I'd rather not be risking Henshaw in this game. Ditto Furlong and Stander; Bent and Reidy aren't long term options but they'd plug a gap against Fiji.

They might stick him on the bench against Argentina for that reason.

Maybe best not to stick him on the wing against Fiji, he might get flashbacks

errlloyd

AdamD wrote: »

errlloyd wrote: »

I've only seen Chris Farrell play poorly for Munster. I know he's been good, but I am just wondering where he sits on the centre pecking order come Japan.

Henshaw
Aki
Ringrose
Marshall
McCloskey
Scannell
Payne

Doubt Aki is ahead of Ringrose already

That wasn't a ranked list. Just as they came to mind.

case885

errlloyd wrote: »

timaru89 wrote: »

Ireland's heaviest ever midbfield?

Henshaw, McCloskey v England.

Farrell is 6'5" and 110 kg, has about 10 kilos on henshaw.

Former Former

Adam Byrne the only one of the original squad not to see a jersey then? Can't say I'm surprised at that but I'd rather not be risking Henshaw in this game. Ditto Furlong and Stander; Bent and Reidy aren't long term options but they'd plug a gap against Fiji.

errlloyd

timaru89 wrote: »

Ireland's heaviest ever midfield?

Henshaw, McCloskey v England.

arsebiscuits1

irishfan9 wrote: »

Porter's move to tighthead really worked out for him.

Was surprised it took so long. I was saying when I saw him at U20's he should consider a move over.

It's fairly possible they wanted a proper look at him at LH just in case he turned out to be a proper monster who was undroppable.

He's certainly grabbed this chance at TH with both his monstrous hands

irishfan9

Interested Observer wrote: »

Yep. Seems to get a knock after just about every match.

he isn't any different to most 21 year olds that size.. body not fully matured, so is prone to injury.

can't think of any irish 2nd rows that age who didn't struggle with injury.

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Clegg wrote: »

Just noticed that James Ryan isn't in the side. Thought he was sure to get a start. Another injury?

Yep. Seems to get a knock after just about every match.

irishfan9

Porter's move to tighthead really worked out for him.

D14Rugby

Jaysus can you imagine being a poor battered auld Fijian thinking youve done well so far and the scoreline is looking respectable then looking up at the 50-60 minute mark and seeing healy, furlong, stander and henshaw, four b&i lions no less, coming onto the pitch got rest their souls.

timaru89

Ireland's heaviest ever midfield?

Clegg

Just noticed that James Ryan isn't in the side. Thought he was sure to get a start. Another injury?

irishbucsfan

If you look at this team in terms of who can have the biggest short-term impact on their fortunes... I'd say the 5

Ruddock can possibly cement his place in the 23 for Argentina/6Ns.
Murphy can possibly oust him.
Porter can possibly make himself a genuine bench option due to his quality around the field
Dillane can make some lost ground up on Ryan.
Conway can make himself a real option at 15 in the not entirely unlikely scenario that RK and JP are missing.

And I suppose a bad performance from Marmion/Carberry could set them back as our seemingly 2nd choice half backs.

Sangre

Big opportunity for Porter.

Delighted for Ruddock as captain again. Very unlucky to only have 17 caps to his name so far.

MJohnston

Really hope it goes well for McCloskey. He's had an excellent season (himself) so far, and I'd hate to see him knocked off that again like he was last time he got taken off early against England.

Clegg

Ruddock probably should have more caps than 17. Been around the Ireland set up a long time and made his debut at 19 iirc. Hopefully he'll set a marker down for inclusion in our strongest 23. He's an excellent player when fit.

DGRulz

Was looking forward to Bryne v Nadolo II

Neil3030

Yeah, nice to see such an experimental team, but with such experience that can come off the bench to steady the ship, should excrement hit rotating cooling device.

stephen_n

I would have thought Toner had more than 51 caps at this stage.

That's a strong bench, would imagine the starting team my struggle to gel, with so many changes.

Elvisjuice

has the fiji team being named yet ?

Clegg

Anatom wrote: »

Good team. It should do the business. I'm delighted for Chris Farrell too.

Carbery only has 5 caps??!

Whenever I've seen Farrell play he's been a bit cack. Think he's very lucky to get capped.

Carbery is 21/22 and only in his second full season as a pro. He wasn't even in double digits in Leinster appearances before getting an Ireland cap. Missed the 6N through injury too.

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Anatom wrote: »

Good team. It should do the business. I'm delighted for Chris Farrell too.

Carbery only has 5 caps??!

He was injured/behind Jackson anyway for the 6N. His first pro rugby was only last season sure.

timaru89

Anatom wrote: »

Carbery only has 5 caps??!

And has played in victories over NZ, Aus and SA

Anatom

Good team. It should do the business. I'm delighted for Chris Farrell too.

Carbery only has 5 caps??!

Clegg

The starting 15 is the same as the rumoured lineup posted earlier.

Bench is interesting though. Henshaw at 23 can cover multiple positions. May even see him at full back. Disappointed Adam Byrne isn't getting a shot but he'll benefit from being in the camp.

Thanos

Wow amazing to think Henshaw has 30 caps already.....

irishfan9