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Zzippy

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awec

:pac: :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXZlJGoK78A

awec

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42009839

The Japanese are mad.

stephen_n

I don't watch much football anymore, but the little bits I've seen of Ireland over the last two years, it is amazing how technically poor they are, close control and one touch football seems non existent in the team. You'd have to wonder how when there are more kids playing than ever, we are failing to produce players that we did in the late 80's and early 90's. It shouldn't be that much to expect a professional player to have the ability to take a ball down and pass it to one of his team mates, but at times Ireland seem to be able to go a couple of minutes without holding on to the ball for more than one or two passes. Maybe it's cyclical and they are going through what rugby did in the 90's, hope so for the sake of Irish football fans.

prawnsambo

molloyjh wrote: »

I don’t think anyone is looking for 100%, just wondering why the % is relatively low for soccer in general.

The weight of the ball is part of it I think. Even really good free takers can often miss with all the time they need to connect. A very slight inaccuracy in where the ball is struck could send it into the stands instead of the goal.

molloyjh

errlloyd wrote: »

Too level footballers miss penalties. Top level golfers miss fairways. Top level out halves miss touch. When everything you do is done at maximum power sometimes you miss.

I really don't like watching football, but footballers are great athletes, close to the top of a game that is very competitive.

I don’t think anyone is looking for 100%, just wondering why the % is relatively low for soccer in general.

errlloyd

Too level footballers miss penalties. Top level golfers miss fairways. Top level out halves miss touch. When everything you do is done at maximum power sometimes you miss.

I really don't like watching football, but footballers are great athletes, close to the top of a game that is very competitive.

molloyjh

Sephiral wrote: »

I'd back myself to do that pretty regularly. I wouldn't back myself to do it while running at 80% speed, with someone coming to pressure me after thirty minutes of intense aerobic exercise.

How many football players are playing the ball at 80% speed though? How many are at the pace putting a cross in? Very few I'd say. And surely the whole point of being a professional sportsperson is to be able to execute under pressure?

Sephiral

mfceiling wrote: »

I shouldn't really be having a go at the ROI players for lack of skills. You even see it in the premiership....shots on goal 15, shots on target 3. Good players not being able to drop a decent ball in to the box. You'd imagine it should be like second nature to almost cross a ball or put in a corner to almost the exact same spot every time?

I'd back myself to do that pretty regularly. I wouldn't back myself to do it while running at 80% speed, with someone coming to pressure me after thirty minutes of intense aerobic exercise.

mfceiling

I shouldn't really be having a go at the ROI players for lack of skills. You even see it in the premiership....shots on goal 15, shots on target 3. Good players not being able to drop a decent ball in to the box. You'd imagine it should be like second nature to almost cross a ball or put in a corner to almost the exact same spot every time?

Sephiral

mfceiling wrote: »

I don't want to sound like a smart arse but are most of these lads on a minimum of 25 - 30 grand a week?

Why can they not execute the basic skills? Crossing the ball - goes waist height for 10 metres. Taking a shot at goal - ball gets belted 10 feet wide and 10 feet high. Pass to team mate - ball ends up being too far in front of player.

Surely to God these lads must have the basic skills or they wouldn't get to where they are. Should a professional footballer not hit the target with at least 90% of his efforts and not the 10% that seems to be the norm?

Would we accept the same mediocrity from the rugby lads if say our out half had a 40% ratio off the tee?

I've only ever played Gaelic with top level players - think multiple All Star winners. What separates them is the pace they are able to execute skills at. Athleticism and technical ability both come into it, but almost all players have a ceiling where they are held back for some reason. Typically, you need a high degree of athleticism and solid technical ability to keep advancing up the levels.

Edit: Forgot to mention what I am getting it is the Danes are simply better footballers. For me, the only Irish players who could potentially play for a top ten team in the PL are Coleman and McCarthy if his development had panned out a bit better. Brady has the technical ability, but not the physical attributions.

prawnsambo

Apparently North Korea have sentenced Donald Trump to death for insulting their glorious leader.

I was never in favour of the death penalty, but now I'm torn.

swiwi_

Lads, you've finally made it! Your rugby team is consistently one of the best in the world...while your soccer team is just a little bit rubbish. The Irish - honorary New Zealanders

kuang1

Zzippy wrote: »

No sh1te about how we're the best fans in the world, and look even the Russian hooligans saw how much craic we were and joined the party. And no Irish fans embarrassing the rest of us by harassing women shopping in underwear shops in the name of "banter".

No arguments here.

Zzippy

thomond2006 wrote: »

Sver lining: No summer clickbait for J*e.ie

No sh1te about how we're the best fans in the world, and look even the Russian hooligans saw how much craic we were and joined the party. And no Irish fans embarrassing the rest of us by harassing women shopping in underwear shops in the name of "banter".

ClanofLams

The RTÉ analysts live in cloud cuckoo land. Reality is Ireland don't have the talent to play an attractive style of football and would get passed off the park.

They keep banging on about Wes Hoolahan like he's Christian Eriksen, he's a 35 year old Championship footballer who isn't always on the team sheet. Not disrespecting him, good player and probably Ireland's best 'natural' footballer.

Also amazes me that Brady constantly pushes for his inclusion and is never asked why he was so often not picked when Brady was part of the set up. I know it was probably Traps call but at least acknowledge it.

Tony O'Donoghue a terrible interviewer too. Asking McClean who is in tears if 'heart and spirit isn't enough'. What does he expect him to say? You're right there Tony, we are ****e sure.

Didactic Ninja

eriksen bankrupted banter.ie one goal at a time. delighted.

prawnsambo

mfceiling wrote: »

Yeah but no amount of coaching or tactics can make you drop in perfect crosses every time. Some of the crosses tonight you'd see at an under 8's on a Sunday morning. Is crossing the ball so difficult for players of a professional ability?

I saw some lovely passes early in the game. Good movement with the passes and all. It just fell apart when the Danes got the equaliser.

Bit of pressure and the skills fall down.

mfceiling

awec wrote: »

All about the coaching and tactics.

Yeah but no amount of coaching or tactics can make you drop in perfect crosses every time. Some of the crosses tonight you'd see at an under 8's on a Sunday morning. Is crossing the ball so difficult for players of a professional ability?

awec

mfceiling wrote: »

I don't want to sound like a smart arse but are most of these lads on a minimum of 25 - 30 grand a week?

Why can they not execute the basic skills? Crossing the ball - goes waist height for 10 metres. Taking a shot at goal - ball gets belted 10 feet wide and 10 feet high. Pass to team mate - ball ends up being too far in front of player.

Surely to God these lads must have the basic skills or they wouldn't get to where they are. Should a professional footballer not hit the target with at least 90% of his efforts and not the 10% that seems to be the norm?

Would we accept the same mediocrity from the rugby lads if say our out half had a 40% ratio off the tee?

All about the coaching and tactics.

thomond2006

Sver lining: No summer clickbait for J*e.ie

ScrubsfanChris

Times like these (which is quite often to be honest) I'm glad I didn't grow up a football fan.

mfceiling

I don't want to sound like a smart arse but are most of these lads on a minimum of 25 - 30 grand a week?

Why can they not execute the basic skills? Crossing the ball - goes waist height for 10 metres. Taking a shot at goal - ball gets belted 10 feet wide and 10 feet high. Pass to team mate - ball ends up being too far in front of player.

Surely to God these lads must have the basic skills or they wouldn't get to where they are. Should a professional footballer not hit the target with at least 90% of his efforts and not the 10% that seems to be the norm?

Would we accept the same mediocrity from the rugby lads if say our out half had a 40% ratio off the tee?

wp_rathead

The fecking Boks only scored 3..

[Deleted User]

Jesus that's schoolboy stuff, who in gods name stops a ball like that in the box. Amateur hour.

Don Kiddick

I swore I heaed someone singing "Are you Tampa Bay in disguise"

Neil3030

danishbucsfan is currently departing the Aviva to watch rally driving on TV somewhere.

[Deleted User]

That's the end of that.

irishbucsfan

I’m sad now

awec

Denmark are technically superior to Ireland in every way. They look comfortable on the ball, Ireland don’t.

prawnsambo

Well that didn't last long.

Think I'll switch channels, the lights in my house seem to be attracting the ball to the Irish net.