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Clare GAA discussion thread

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Thought I'd start this thread as haven't found one of the same.

So, 2010.. new decade... new beginnings? With the aim of the League being to get back into Division 1, could Clare also achieve success in Munster this year?

The fixtures for 2010:

31.01.2010 Waterford v Clare(Waterford Crystal Cup SF)

21.02.2010 Clare v Down (NHL)
28.02.2010 Laois v Clare (NHL)
14.03.2010 Clare v Wexford (NHL)
21.03.2010 Antrim v Clare (NHL)
28.03.2010 Carlow v Clare (NHL)
04.04.2010 Clare v Westmeath (NHL)
18.04.2010 Kildare v Clare (NHL)

07.06.2010 Waterford v Clare (MHC)

As well as a proposed friendly versus Cork, Ger O'Loughlin has a good load of matches to blood players from U-21's into the senior game. With the opponents in the League not posing a major threat some would argue Clare wont get as much preparation as Div 1 teams, but maybe it will give them an opportunity to focus on their strength and conditioning?

So, Clare face Waterford on Sunday at 2pm in Ballyduff Upper.. I think they should win against this weakened Waterford side, but I think it will be close tbh. But could Waterford topple us in the pre season tournament?

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letowski

Kilmaley are into the intermediate final, fair play to them, I expected them make a run in the provincial series.

Saw the deffered coverage of the Bridge game. BG were the better team in the end for me, they set up well closing down space in the backs and then moving the ball into space with their forwards. Bridge battled well but found getting scores harder. That said they wont make the long drive back without regrets. Had Golden scored that goal chance it could have been a different game, while Seadna was wasted back in the corner, he is usually worth 2/3 points in the half back line. Also the ref was harsh on them in the first half, and actually kept BG in the game early on. But still BG were the better team.

Gael85

finbarrk wrote: »

Naomh Eoin v Dromid Pearses , Pairc Eoin, Cross, Sunday @2.00pm. Pitch passed Munster Council inspection today so hopefully it stays dry up to Sunday. Big crowd coming up from Kerry seemingly.

I see Naomh Eoin/O'Currrys beat Miltown last in 21 championship

Gael85

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

great win for naomh eoin in the junior football championship , an injury time goal from michael liddane the difference in there 3-08 to 0-14 win

https://twitter.com/NaomhEoinGAA/status/924691788107079681

Was great win for Naomh Eoin. They had a midfielder black carded which haulted their momentium as went from 9 up to 2 down. The lads never game and late turnover gave Mick Liddane to nail winning goal. He flew in from Florida that morning for game so was worth the flight

Clareman

finbarrk wrote: »

Naomh Eoin v Dromid Pearses , Pairc Eoin, Cross, Sunday @2.00pm. Pitch passed Munster Council inspection today so hopefully it stays dry up to Sunday. Big crowd coming up from Kerry seemingly.

Should be a great day out, it's funny that it's a shorter journey for Dromid Pearses to play Naomh Eoin that it would be for them to play Eire Óg

finbarrk

Naomh Eoin v Dromid Pearses , Pairc Eoin, Cross, Sunday @2.00pm. Pitch passed Munster Council inspection today so hopefully it stays dry up to Sunday. Big crowd coming up from Kerry seemingly.

Tell me how

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

yeah kelly went a bit nuts all right but cosgrave can be a very frustrating referee at times , brian carrig got away with murder too ,he was given plenty of digs to young dermot coughlan , it almost seemed like a tactic , a foolish one at that as carrig was one of clondegads best players in the win over miltown and ended up taking himself out of the game by concentrating too much on his marker

Agree, Brian Carrigg's treatment of Coughlan was cynical all day. That is one of the instances I was talking about with TK. Just before Carrigg was booked for taking out Coughlan off the ball, Tony was in the ear of the linesman trying to refer to something elsewhere on the field.

windy shepard henderson

Tell me how wrote: »

Kilmurry deserved the win throughout even though Clondegad could have gotten even closer. A missed free near the end would have made it exciting for the final minute.

I was disappointed with some of Tony Kelly's behavior in yesterdays game. In the ear of the ref and linesman at several times trying to influence decisions, screaming at the ref for a black card when he was fouled and particularly, an elbow in the back of a KiB defender when he had lost control of the ball which led to a scuffle between the teams and treatment for the player.

I was talking to a work colleague who had his 7 and 8 year old boys at the game and he said there was an awful lot going on which is setting an outright bad example to children. The Clondegad's player behavior in getting sent off was embarrassing.

Clondegad lost several intermediate finals before making the leap to senior. Hopefully similar resilience in coming years will see them back competing on county final day.

yeah kelly went a bit nuts all right but cosgrave can be a very frustrating referee at times , brian carrig got away with murder too ,he was given plenty of digs to young dermot coughlan , it almost seemed like a tactic , a foolish one at that as carrig was one of clondegads best players in the win over miltown and ended up taking himself out of the game by concentrating too much on his marker

i think clondegad got there match ups all wrong , there main forward podge mcmahon was playing far too deep in the first half , plus they ditched there short passing game which got them to the final in the first half and replaced it with aimless long kicks only to see them intercepted time and time again

they performed well in the second but no doubt who the better team was , crokes are not firing on all cylinders either at the moment , there could be a real opportunity for horse maloneys men to upset the odds on sunday week but there shooting will need to improve

windy shepard henderson

keeponhurling wrote: »

Lads,
Should we be reading anything into the departures of Bugler, C.Ryan, Pat Donnellan, and potentially Cunningham and Galvin going travelling too ?
Of course each case is individual and they all have their own reasons, which should be respected.
But if the feeling around the squad was that we have a serious shot at a Munster or All-Ireland, or both, in 2018, you'd rarely see so many people opting out?

an awful lot of these players have serious miles on the clock , there were a number of players compleatly over doing things with duel commitments duel club , under 21 and senior intercounty at the same time , i think it was inevitable something like this might happen

my disappointment would come from our underage structures which have fell apart in hurling the only way we could have sustained things from the turn of the decade was to keep turning over underage success like limerick ,waterford and galway are doing

there is not enough club players especially from the likes of sixmilebridge putting up a hand for the county team , players on the intercounty panel know this also

cant stop lads from taking time out but we are not doing enough to replace them either

my example would be take a look at the football set up underage especially the development squads , year on year over the last 5 or 6 years we have drafted in a number of players off minor and u21 squads every year , if we can do it with football why are we not doing the same in hurling

Claregaafan18

keeponhurling wrote: »

Lads,
Should we be reading anything into the departures of Bugler, C.Ryan, Pat Donnellan, and potentially Cunningham and Galvin going travelling too ?
Of course each case is individual and they all have their own reasons, which should be respected.
But if the feeling around the squad was that we have a serious shot at a Munster or All-Ireland, or both, in 2018, you'd rarely see so many people opting out?

Personally I feel the relentless physical training regime that was implemented by Davy during his time as Clare hurling boss has got a lot to do with it regarding retirements and taking a break from the game. Darach Honan while not specifically calling DF'S name out said that a hip replacement was a distinct possibility had he kept on inter-county hurling. That says it all really.

I also got the impression that the camp were not all singing off the same hymn sheet in 2017 with talks of management having certain favorites in the squad towards some players instead of others. Also why did Gearoid (Gudgie) O'Connell leave the panel days before the Munster Final? There was also the impression that the training regime that Gerry and Donal implemented was too intense also.

I think the coaching situation had an impact too. As I speak about the Clare senior hurling management team does anyone know who will become the next Clare coach in 2018 to replace Donal Og Cusack? Names like Fergie O'Loughlin, Fergal Hegarty, Eamonn O'Shea and Mattie Kenny have been mentioned as possible replacements for the Cork man.

To conclude it is always a worry to see so many players either taking time out from the game or retiring. However providing lessons have been learned from 2017 then 2018 can be a start to the revival of Clare senior hurling team's fortunes. I still think that Donal and Gerry are the right men for the job. But they let themselves down with their crazy tactics in 2017 but I was heartened that they did review the year in detail and promised the same mistakes will not happen or be repeated on the sideline for next year. Here's hoping anyway.

keeponhurling

Lads,
Should we be reading anything into the departures of Bugler, C.Ryan, Pat Donnellan, and potentially Cunningham and Galvin going travelling too ?
Of course each case is individual and they all have their own reasons, which should be respected.
But if the feeling around the squad was that we have a serious shot at a Munster or All-Ireland, or both, in 2018, you'd rarely see so many people opting out?

Tell me how

Kilmurry deserved the win throughout even though Clondegad could have gotten even closer. A missed free near the end would have made it exciting for the final minute.

I was disappointed with some of Tony Kelly's behavior in yesterdays game. In the ear of the ref and linesman at several times trying to influence decisions, screaming at the ref for a black card when he was fouled and particularly, an elbow in the back of a KiB defender when he had lost control of the ball which led to a scuffle between the teams and treatment for the player.

I was talking to a work colleague who had his 7 and 8 year old boys at the game and he said there was an awful lot going on which is setting an outright bad example to children. The Clondegad's player behavior in getting sent off was embarrassing.

Clondegad lost several intermediate finals before making the leap to senior. Hopefully similar resilience in coming years will see them back competing on county final day.

4Ad

Congratulations to Bodyke, they were by far the better team..no doubt they will have a serious celebration...
From a Mills man....

windy shepard henderson

against the backdrop of the main day of the year in the football calendar bodyke finally get over the line in the junior hurling final in tulla , wining on a scoreline of 2-17 to 0-15 against the mills , its a long over due victory for the small east clare club that have had far too many lean years and near misses in this division they will not be out of place next year in the intermediate championship , well done lads

https://twitter.com/BodykeGaa/status/924653960413241344

windy shepard henderson

great win for naomh eoin in the junior football championship , an injury time goal from michael liddane the difference in there 3-08 to 0-14 win

https://twitter.com/NaomhEoinGAA/status/924691788107079681

windy shepard henderson

Kilmurry-Ibrickane 1-14 Clondegad 0-14

no fairytale here for tony kelly and gary brennan's men as the bricks prove just that bit better through out the game , cagey first half saw the favorites dominate but only lead by two at the break , points from stephan maloney , darragh sexton keelan sexton and dermot coughlan had the bricks leading by 2 at half time

clondegad ditched there running game in the first half and opted to kick long , with little effect , and were always chasing the game tony kelly and brennan the only likley scorers for the outsiders

second half turned out to be a much better game as clondegad ran more and more at the kib defense with shane brennan and eoin donnlan canceling out efforts from ian macinerney and dermot coughlan to leave the game 8-7 in favor of kib with just over 15 remaining

substitutes noel downes and michael o'dwyer played a huge part in the kib win , first a point by odwyer from distance put 3 between the sides , followed quickly by a noel dowes goal , downes hit the post shortly after which would have nailed the coffin closed
clondegad hit the post late on and had a tadgh lynch effort cleared off the line , a last minute podge mcmahon free was tipped over the crossbar and with that went clondegads chances of a first time county final win

kilmurry will face dr crokes in two weeks time in kilarney ,where they have gone close in the past ,big effort needed the next day to jump that hurdle espically from the likes of keelan sexton who has yet to play his best stuff this year for his club

Clareman

danganabu wrote: »

Would the current Flannan's set up be almost exclusively Clare players or are there still lads from Limerick, Tipp and Galway going there?

There isn't any boarders there anymore so the setup would be almost exclusive players from around Ennis.

danganabu

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Absolute heartbreak for St Flannans College in the U16.5 A Dean Ryan Cup hurling semi-final. A last gasp point from Midleton CBS seals a 2-17 to 2-16 over the Ennis school to book a place in the final in the competition where the Cork school will take on Thurles CBS. Flannans showed tremendous heart and courage and as a collective group from both players and management, they should take great pride in what was an enthralling encounter in Ballyagran today. Commiserations to one and all. Best of luck to Midleton CBS in the final though.

Would the current Flannan's set up be almost exclusively Clare players or are there still lads from Limerick, Tipp and Galway going there?

Claregaafan18

Absolute heartbreak for St Flannans College in the U16.5 A Dean Ryan Cup hurling semi-final. A last gasp point from Midleton CBS seals a 2-17 to 2-16 over the Ennis school to book a place in the final in the competition where the Cork school will take on Thurles CBS. Flannans showed tremendous heart and courage and as a collective group from both players and management, they should take great pride in what was an enthralling encounter in Ballyagran today. Commiserations to one and all. Best of luck to Midleton CBS in the final though.

dastardly00

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Darach Honan has also retired from inter-county hurling. Nicknamed the Duck, Honan was outstanding in his early years with his performance with Clare U21's in 2009 and especially against Galway in the All-Ireland U21 semi-final where he was absolutely outstanding in that same year. However injury plighted his career and while he did play a key role in Clare's All-Ireland glory in 2013, it has been a struggle since then for the Clonlara clubman. Best of luck on your inter-county retirement Darach!

It very much seems like it's for the best that he is retiring.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/1025/915248-honanif-i-kept-hurling-id-need-a-hip-replacement/

He's yet another GAA player to have a serious hip injury.
And also another GAA player to have hip surgery which subsequently did not get rid of the injury!

To be told that you'd need a hip replacement before the age of 30 if he kept playing is just awful.

Anyway, all the best to him in his retirement.

Claregaafan18

A mixed day for St Flannans College in Gaa this afternoon. The bad news is that their U18.5 A Harty Cup hurling team lost 2-17 to 0-11 to CBC Cork in the 2nd round of the competition and must beat Our Lady's Templemore in the final round of group matches to be played in 3 weeks time in order to give themselves a chance to qualify for the knock-out stages.

However in what must be seen as a huge boost to Clare underage football, the Ennis school have qualified for the final of the U15 A Munster PP Schools Football championship final against St Brendans Killarney after a 7-13 to 1-5 win over Tralee CBS in the semi-final also played today.

So overall a mixed day for St. Flannans as they look set to take on CBS Midleton in the semi-final of the U16.5 A hurling championship tomorrow in Ballyagran. Throw-in is at 1:30 pm.

finbarrk

That game against Galway in Thurles in 09 was an outstanding performance.

Claregaafan18

Darach Honan has also retired from inter-county hurling. Nicknamed the Duck, Honan was outstanding in his early years with his performance with Clare U21's in 2009 and especially against Galway in the All-Ireland U21 semi-final where he was absolutely outstanding in that same year. However injury plighted his career and while he did play a key role in Clare's All-Ireland glory in 2013, it has been a struggle since then for the Clonlara clubman. Best of luck on your inter-county retirement Darach!

tatoo

Keano wrote: »

Donal Og expected not be involved in 2018

He has confirmed his departure in the last few minutes , his position was untenable after his character reference for Humphries.

danganabu

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

washman3 wrote: »

Can I take it you mean Seamus Hickey was injured and not Diarmuid Byrnes.?
Byrnes plays for Patrickswell.
Surely extra time should have been played when M/Boher drew with Garryspillane last Sunday rather than dragging them both back to G/Grounds for a replay under lights last Wednesday night.

Realbhoy wrote: »

No there is a Diarmuid Byrnes for M/B as well. Nice hurler too.

yep the dog ate my homework on this one , was full sure it was the county player in fact a number of people around me taught the same , the lad who came on was descent in fairness

in truth it was a joke on murroe/ B to make them play 3 games in a week , the fact is they probably would have won this by a few points had they adequate time to recover , common sense needs to take hold here in these situations , munster council or county boards dont give a dam about player welfare

Can't blame the Munster Council on this one, Limerick county board knew at the starting the year when the Limerick champions were due to play and can't offer any excuse, outside the u21 hurlers all other county teams were out early.

Keano

Donal Og expected not be involved in 2018

Gael85

Stationmaster wrote: »

I think 3pm with the junior a final beforehand at 1pm.

Naomh Eoin v Eire Og is @1-15

Stationmaster

Boots234 wrote: »

What time is the county football final on at on Sunday?

I think 3pm with the junior a final beforehand at 1pm.

windy shepard henderson

washman3 wrote: »

Can I take it you mean Seamus Hickey was injured and not Diarmuid Byrnes.?
Byrnes plays for Patrickswell.
Surely extra time should have been played when M/Boher drew with Garryspillane last Sunday rather than dragging them both back to G/Grounds for a replay under lights last Wednesday night.

Realbhoy wrote: »

No there is a Diarmuid Byrnes for M/B as well. Nice hurler too.

yep the dog ate my homework on this one , was full sure it was the county player in fact a number of people around me taught the same , the lad who came on was descent in fairness

in truth it was a joke on murroe/ B to make them play 3 games in a week , the fact is they probably would have won this by a few points had they adequate time to recover , common sense needs to take hold here in these situations , munster council or county boards dont give a dam about player welfare

Realbhoy

washman3 wrote: »

Can I take it you mean Seamus Hickey was injured and not Diarmuid Byrnes.?
Byrnes plays for Patrickswell.
Surely extra time should have been played when M/Boher drew with Garryspillane last Sunday rather than dragging them both back to G/Grounds for a replay under lights last Wednesday night.

No there is a Diarmuid Byrnes for M/B as well. Nice hurler too.

Clareman

danganabu wrote: »

The academies were the direct result of the separation of club and province.

This would probably be more suitable for the rugby forum. But back in the day the B team used to be fed from the clubs, now there's a dedicated academy so there's ~20 players who used to play with the clubs every week who are in the academy and only get released from time to time.