Cheerful Spring wrote: » Evidence put before the Warren Commission could not positively establish if the bullet was found on Kennedy’s stretcher or Connally’s and the bullet’s chain of custody was not clearly recorded. So this is a huge problem when you don't know exactly where the bullet came from!
Cheerful Spring wrote: » The bullets are the same. A stranger could use the same make gun and bullets and the ballistic expert not could tell the difference.
Are Am Eye wrote: » As well as that Cheerfull your trying to both argue that the bullet in the hospital wasn't fired at Deely Plaza and that it was and contradicts the wounds (it doesn't). You can't have it both ways. Anyway the straight forward narrative holds up and is consistent. The bullet travelled into the hospital in Connolly's leg. The full metal jacket bullet is substantially intact as it is supposed to be. The angle from Oswald's rifle to JFK and the disposition of JFK and Connolly in the car matches with the expected wounds. Taking account of the bullet spinning and losing kinetic energy as it proceeds. Loath as I am to reach for the cliched Occam's Razor - why look for a convoluted conspiracy when the plain facts add up and hold up.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Why is the CIA and FBI holding up the release of thousands of JFK documents, if they case closed Oswald was alone, lunatic and had no help?
Esel wrote: » I hope you are not saying that separate bullets fired from two models of the same gun would have identical marks?
Charmeleon wrote: » Because they investigated many secret service agents and heard testimony from the intelligence agencies. What they had to say could identify and compromise the safety of informers or their relatives or give away secret intelligence gathering techniques.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Why is the CIA and FBI holding up the release of thousands of JFK documents, if the case is closed? If Oswald was all alone, a lunatic and had no help planning this assassination. There should be no reason to be waving the flag of national security.
Are Am Eye wrote: » That's not how ballistics work. Every gun barrel has its unique marks and quirks in rifling - that leave marks and striations on the bullet. A bullet can be linked to the gun that fired it.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » I don't believe the Warren Commission or agree with their experts. The bullet had no chain of custody.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » 6.5×52mm Carcano Model 91/38 infantry rifle all use the same parts and same bullets. Have you evidence different batches of the same manufactured bullets made by the same company leave different traces?
Are Am Eye wrote: » If the hypothetical CIA cabaal, agency within an agency, had really assassinated JFK, do you honestly think that clues or evidence to that effect is sitting in official files in government archives in Washington. That if they just released these papers that we would suddenly have the real story. Whatever happened and whatever is known is long since out there at this stage. As someone said earlier most of the protagonists are dead now. If it was a cover up then it was a successful one. You aren't going to learn anymore now. The conspiracy angle doesn't ring through though. Too many people. No one spills the beans. They set up a messy gun show in a public street. No. Too complicated, too many moving parts. It would have been done neatly, quietly and very tidily. With not a lose end to question.
Esel wrote: » Not an answer.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Oswald was hanging out with Cuban exile groups who were planning and staging and getting ready to take out Castro. The CIA funded those groups. Oswald either way was involved with the CIA- secret war against Castro. Oswald is hanging out with dangerous people i don't believe he was alone in the planning. I actually do believe Oswald was involved in the plot, but not sure what level he was at. Was he used as a decoy by someone else who carried out the shooting? Was he the only shooter? Had he accomplices?
Are Am Eye wrote: » The ammunition is all the same. Every gun's barrel leaves different markings on the bullets. As individual as fingerprints. The bullet Tomlinson found in the Hospital was fired from Oswald's rifle. That was the result of the ballistic examination of the rifle and the bullet. That evidence was given to the commission.
Esel wrote: » Still no answer. Not surprised.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » This is not easy as it sounds if the gun was manufactured by the same company. They use this method to trace different guns to different manufacturing companies.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » I responding to numerous posts sorry i hurt your feelings.
Are Am Eye wrote: » There's no reason to guess/invent another shooter or assistance. Oswald was there. He had a gun. He was a good enough shot. He fired three shots. He killed the president. Where does anyone else come into events at Deely Plaza. Nowhere. Did the Kennedys have enemies? Yes. Were there people who might benefit from his death? Possibly. Is there any evidence of a wider plot during these events. No. Definitely not.
Are Am Eye wrote: » You're now denying Ballistic Science Past my bedtime now. I'll leave you to it.
Charmeleon wrote: » Is all that from Oliver Stone’s movie, which he admits most of which was just made up? Oswald was an admirer of Castro and there’s not a shred of evidence he was hanging around with any anti-Castro groups. His wife admitted he chose the fake name Hidel to order his guns because it sounded like Fidel. How fecking sad is that. His landlady said he only ever got phone calls from his wife. He was a loner, the single member of the Pro-Castro ‘Fair Play for Cuba’ group. He tried to kill himself when he was refused by the Soviets and then tried to persuade his pregnant wife to hijack a plane to go to Cuba after the Cuban embassy laughed at him. What kind of conspiracy was he part of when the only person you can turn to to hijack a plane is heavily pregnant with your child? Who uses a dirt cheap second hand rifle for the most significant assassination in modern US history?
