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Testing exemption for all vintage vehicles

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Minister Shane Ross has signed the S.I's exempting all pre 1980 Vehicles including Commercial Vehicles which are being used solely for non-commercial purposes from testing and from May 2018 there will be a 2 year test for Vehicles between 30 and 40 years. From 2020 there will be a move to a rolling 40 year exemption.

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Silvera

Have to agree with most of the comments here. My Monza just passed her second NCT which will now make her more appealing to potential buyers

(will be sad to see her go)

SmartinMartin

My car failed the nct for a hairline crack in a rear brake light. I covered it with red electrical tape and twenty minutes later it passed.

ht9zni1gs28crp

Had my 85 in recently and immediately I got off to a bad rapport with the guy testing it. I mentioned out of love for my car that its a dog leg manual before he took the keys. Talk about looking at you as if you had forty heads, then asked was it petrol. My heart sank at that moment....

Four other cars passed through from start to finish in the time he took going over mine. Ive never seen a car in for test as long and I put three cars each year personally through let alone travel with mates cars too. I've since heard a couple of others had bad run ins with him. Just general attitude of laughing at ''my car is precious and not an tee diddly eye please look after it''

I wonder is there anything to be said for trained 'vintage' testers in each NCT centre? Lads with experience of older cars etc....

unkel

My car failed on corroded brake lines and structural weakness in one part of one sill - fair enough. Professionally fixed.

And indeed, the third thing it failed on "insufficient washer spray". My comment to the tester was: "really?" :rolleyes: Made it a little bit better myself by poking into the sprayer holes with a thick needle and twisting the tubes to turn their direction. It improved a bit and it passed.

Dades

Tazio wrote: »

My 81 passed a few weeks ago too..I've mixed feelings.... playing devil's advocate here but as a car nut I do see the benefits of some formal testing..(bring on the hate.. ).. 55quid for brake / suspension / structural integrity check is good value imo... maybe not every year.. but maybe on first registration or every say 2 to 4 years? It'll just keep owners on there toes and it's good to have a 2ns set of eyes....

It is for the best that there is some formal testing, but for vintage cars they really need to move a bunch of stuff from the "fail" column into the "advisory" column.

I'm looking at you, "weak washer spray" and "rear fog light indicator lamp". It's that type of anal nit-picking that has people going NOPE and driving around with no test at all.

commited

Dades wrote: »

I would be thinking that too in your position!

Mine is due this month and considering I got penalty points last year for being out of date, I can't wait till May.

I wonder if it would work or would I just end up with a Feb 19 expiry date regardless

Assuming I pass, that is... :pac:

unkel

Isambard wrote: »

and if you did put it through in a year it didn't need testing and it failed on something trivial, it wouldn't need to be off the road as it would still have a valid cert.

That's the very reason I always try and put my cars through 3 months early. There is no problem scheduling any NCT early, so there really is not much of an excuse running out of NCT while waiting for a part or trying to sort an issue out.

Isambard

and if you did put it through in a year it didn't need testing and it failed on something trivial, it wouldn't need to be off the road as it would still have a valid cert.

unkel

I couldn't agree more. Putting the car through the NCT every year might be a pain in the hole, but it is great value for money for a very thorough test. My car had a brand new MOT, but obviously the NCT is so strict and thorough, that it didn't pass until all brake lines were replaced and one side of a sill was welded.

Pretty sure you can put a car through voluntarily though, even when it doesn't need a test. You might want to check that out.

Tazio

My 81 passed a few weeks ago too..I've mixed feelings.... playing devil's advocate here but as a car nut I do see the benefits of some formal testing..(bring on the hate..

).. 55quid for brake / suspension / structural integrity check is good value imo... maybe not every year.. but maybe on first registration or every say 2 to 4 years? It'll just keep owners on there toes and it's good to have a 2ns set of eyes....

I've a 72 too that I'd like to put through next spring just for a sheet with numbers... it's a cheap test for the testing involved imo....

I've legallyone more test on the 81... but I'll still run it through every 24 months just for the hell of it. And get some numbers on a sheet to let my inner amateur mechanic know how good or bad I am..

unkel

My '87 passed the NCT this evening. Valid until 10/2018. The good thing is that it then will only ever need an NCT in '18 / '20 / '22 / '24 / '26 and then is forever NCT free?

Happy days so

Dades

commited wrote: »

Oh man, my NCT is due in Feb :(If I hold out (no big deal as it will be off road until May), I wonder would I get a 2 year NCT?

I would be thinking that too in your position!

Mine is due this month and considering I got penalty points last year for being out of date, I can't wait till May.

Skatedude

Just for clarification, cars that are between 10 and 29 years old will still have to have a yearly nct?

elperello

corglass wrote: »

Thanks, that's a much more helpful reply than the first one I got.

Sorry I was in a hurry at the time and only had time to send you a quick pointer.
It was intended to be helpful.

Isambard

I mentioned in my CVRT centre yesterday that next time I'd be getting a two year cert and they had not heard about the changes.

commited

Dades wrote: »

From my reading of it is the next time you do an NCT after May 2018, you will get 2 years as your car is between 30 & 40 years old.

From 2020 onwards it will be exempt (I guess when it hits the 40 year mark from the date of registration).

Oh man, my NCT is due in Feb :(If I hold out (no big deal as it will be off road until May), I wonder would I get a 2 year NCT?

corglass

Dades wrote: »

corglass wrote: »

Ok so I've a 1980 Landcruiser that's classed as passenger and currently subject to annual NCT. Do I now go to 2 yearly NCT? When is this effective from?

From my reading of it is the next time you do an NCT after May 2018, you will get 2 years as your car is between 30 & 40 years old.

From 2020 onwards it will be exempt (I guess when it hits the 40 year mark from the date of registration).

Thanks, that's a much more helpful reply than the first one I got.

Dades

corglass wrote: »

Ok so I've a 1980 Landcruiser that's classed as passenger and currently subject to annual NCT. Do I now go to 2 yearly NCT? When is this effective from?

From my reading of it is the next time you do an NCT after May 2018, you will get 2 years as your car is between 30 & 40 years old.

From 2020 onwards it will be exempt (I guess when it hits the 40 year mark from the date of registration).

elperello

corglass wrote: »

Ok so I've a 1980 Landcruiser that's classed as passenger and currently subject to annual NCT. Do I now go to 2 yearly NCT? When is this effective from?

It's in this thread.

corglass

Ok so I've a 1980 Landcruiser that's classed as passenger and currently subject to annual NCT. Do I now go to 2 yearly NCT? When is this effective from?

elperello

Item about this in the November Irish Vintage Scene Magazine.
Apparently there were over 2000 submissions to the RSA consultation and a similar exercise in the UK attracted 2217 submissions.
Quite an effort given the difference in population.

By the way there is a good article about Aston Martins in Ireland with some lovely pics.

(No connection just a happy subscriber.)

Isambard

no

see 9b

choppermutt

I must be a bit slow but i Didn't follow the last comment....

Does a 1979 reg car need an NCT between May and December of 2018?

hi5

w124man wrote: »

So for a short period of time a 1979 reg vehicle will need an NCT. Between May and December 2018

No. The existing regulations stand until May 2018 (NCT exempt), and then....

(9) Subject to paragraphs (4) and (7), section 18 and these Regulations do
not apply to a vehicle—
(a) which has reached the fortieth anniversary of its first registration,
(b) first registered prior to 1 January 1980, or
(c) which is used solely on an off-shore island,
(d) on the day on which a test certificate in respect of the vehicle had
been refused,
(e) in the 24 hour period prior to a test appointment in the case of a
vehicle heretofore used solely on an off-shore island attending for a
first test provided evidence of the appointment is produced, or
(f) which is owned or operated by the Garda Síochána or the Defence
Forces.

Statute 415, page 9, section 9,(b)

But you will need a CVRT until May 2018 and then.....

(d) the introduction of an exemption for vehicles first registered prior to 1
January 1980 which are being used solely for non-commercial purposes
which will move to a rolling 40 year exemption in 2020 with vehicles
between 30 and 40 years of age (used solely for non-commercial purposes)
being required to undergo compulsory roadworthiness testing biennially
(every second year) instead of annually from 20 May 2018.

Statute 413, page 16, section (d).

w124man

So for a short period of time a 1979 reg vehicle will need an NCT. Between May and December 2018

Isambard

all i have to do is keep it going until then and then it can gently crumble away into dust, as indeed might I too by then

kadman

Isambard wrote: »

it seems to be the case,which is good as my camper is 1987. Exempt from 2027

Me too:)

Silvera

Now if only they would apply the same common sense by allowing (unissued) pre-1987 registrations to be issued to classic and vintage vehicles?!

elperello

Probably timely to propose a vote of thanks to all the organisations, clubs and individuals who helped to bring about this result. Not forgetting the folks at Irish Vintage Scene who kept us updated.
Well done everyone!!

Dades

Super news. I'm actually amazed they softened the regulations. Great news for 80s and 90s cars that might well have otherwise be destined for the scrappers.

My 1983 is due its annual NCT at the end of October this year. I guess I'll have to wait till October 2018 to get a two year cert? That is somewhat annoying that someone who's NCT date is six months later will get 24 months.